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Zephyrine posted:What do you like to do in Eve? Sorry for not being clear before. I am talking in the frame of the similar type of activity. For example, If I were to look at a Wormhole PVP corp, they all pretty much say the same things, the only real difference I see is what time they are most active. I am also noticing similar things in FW corps (Minus the faction they represent) as well as Null corps (separating sov and non-sov null of course). I guess what I am really having trouble with is figuring out if I would fit into a group culturally or not. I don't want to waste people's time if I can figure out if I would be a fit or not before joining. As far as what activity I am looking for, I want to get more into PVP things. I spent too much time doing PVE things and as a direct result. I am absolute garbage at PVP. Beyond that, I am not married to any other particular details. Every type of space presents a unique set of dangers and challenges that I can enjoy.
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Nunes posted:Sorry for not being clear before. I am talking in the frame of the similar type of activity. For example, If I were to look at a Wormhole PVP corp, they all pretty much say the same things, the only real difference I see is what time they are most active. I am also noticing similar things in FW corps (Minus the faction they represent) as well as Null corps (separating sov and non-sov null of course). I guess what I am really having trouble with is figuring out if I would fit into a group culturally or not. I don't want to waste people's time if I can figure out if I would be a fit or not before joining. Hang out with them, chat with different members, or just say gently caress it and jump in.
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I have heard that Wingspan Deliveries does great things in volatile ordinance shipping. They train their workforce directly in bringing the gift of torpedoes to everyone in Holespace before they even ordered them.
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AAPsel posted:Find out what kind of space you want to live in and what kind of gameplay you like. Find groups that fit that description and then ask people you trust about their experiences with them. I think that is a big part of my issue. When I played originally. I played with a group of friends from highschool. When they all left I tried to do a few things before quitting myself but never really got to make friends with people in game. So in that respect. I do not really have folks who I know well to get opinions from because I am unable to ground those opinions with anything.
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Paco Vato posted:Nothing, and it's beautiful. That's like, the best part of the game though. Watching your ishtar orbit something once in a while while you played
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So scrap refining is worthless, datacores were made worthless or will be soon, apparently faction goods are no longer contract based so contract flipping is out. What are people doing these days, station trading plex/injectors/minerals? Manufacturing  ? character flipping? Also someone explain to me why I left 8000 warp disrupt probes in a conquerable station in delve, thats like a billion isk in bubbles 
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jm20 posted:So scrap refining is worthless, datacores were made worthless or will be soon, apparently faction goods are no longer contract based so contract flipping is out. What are people doing these days, station trading plex/injectors/minerals? Manufacturing they only cost a billion isk because of the stront spike, you probably spent way less on them when you bought them
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Yeah It cost me basically nothing to make them in 2011. Trit was 2 back then  mining botters
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When I checked my bookmarked threads this morning there were 780 unread posts here. I read all of them In hindsight I feel that was a mistake.
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The stront spike means that dictor probes are now made out of 200.000 isk worth of materials 
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How's being a mod again deadtear? I haven't posted much on gf.com in a while so I haven't been able to see your handiwork firsthand
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ChickenWing posted:When I checked my bookmarked threads this morning there were 780 unread posts here. I don't believe people still actually do this, did the past how many threads not prove this idea being dumb? Always skip to last page and start "fresh"
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Zephyrine posted:The stront spike means that dictor probes are now made out of 200.000 isk worth of materials yeah but they'll remain at a heavy discount for like forever thanks to how much stront they compress
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jm20 posted:So scrap refining is worthless, datacores were made worthless or will be soon, apparently faction goods are no longer contract based so contract flipping is out. What are people doing these days, station trading plex/injectors/minerals? Manufacturing Character flipping is much less of a thing now -- they added a feature where you can extract SP out of a character's head, reverting their skills to an untrained state, in order to produce an "skill injector" that gives a pilot slightly less unallocated SP. These injectors are sellable on the market. This has removed a lot of the demand for the Character Bazaar, because you can now directly trade ISK for SP at a rapid rate. It's produced some really weird perversions too, such as one-day-old pilots in JFs, or a very rich person deciding to gently caress with the Eveboard leaderboards by spending 1.7 trillion isk on injectors to create a 500M SP character with every skill at 5, just because they can. ullerrm fucked around with this message at 19:22 on May 16, 2016 |
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ChickenWing posted:When I checked my bookmarked threads this morning there were 780 unread posts here. To steal a phrase from esteemed O1Y wordsmith Shaft UrDaMnRiGhT, reading all of those posts made my butt stink.
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Fix Lag posted:Oh my loving god that was incredible I've been recommending this to the thread for the better part of two weeks. I've been running a group over in Horde called ISBAD to teach newbeans who have hit the T2 cruiser skill range to play this style of play properly. Drop the neuts though, we fit them like this because the ratters have a huge explosive resistance hole.  You can drop most ships within 30-45 seconds with this fit. Neuts are only worthwhile for endurance fights, you're looking to get in and out quickly.I'm glad it exists again. When I quit back in 2011 the only ratters in space you would come across were bots so blackops camps were utterly pointless. YouTuber fucked around with this message at 19:43 on May 16, 2016 |
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Foehammer007 posted:I don't believe people still actually do this, did the past how many threads not prove this idea being dumb? Always skip to last page and start "fresh" I hate missing context  Fun fact: contrary to everything I ever believed in, running missions in hisec has proven to be a passable excuse to log in to eve when I only have like 30 mins to play. It's no AFK ratting, but for now it'll do. I look forward to when I have a solid block of hours to play and can finally bring my blops toys out to fade to hang out with the big kids
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Landsknecht posted:being a hardcore lowsec entity could be cool, you're close enough to hisec for logistics, and FW space is active enough that there are usually good fights around living in a staging that is in direct JF range of jita is insane
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YouTuber posted:I've been recommending this to the thread for the better part of two weeks. I've been running a group over in Horde called ISBAD to teach newbeans who have hit the T2 cruiser skill range to play this style of play properly. Drop the neuts though, we fit them like this because the ratters have a huge explosive resistance hole. If you timed your logins just right you could catch the bot carriers with supercaps which was p fun. The biggest blueballs is when you tackled a mothership and you found out there is a jammer as you are trying to cyno your gang onto them  Salastil whats happening
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How is supercap proliferation these days? I don't see many fights of 50 titans a side yet. Are rank and file scrubs still in motherships?
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jm20 posted:How is supercap proliferation these days? I don't see many fights of 50 titans a side yet. Are rank and file scrubs still in motherships? Supercap proliferation is crazy high, but you don't tend to see supercap v. supercap fights because in lamost any given war everyone knows who will win a supercap throwdown and losing a supercap throwdown is hideously expensive. Once committed, the supers are there till downtime or they die. B-R only happened because PL/NC didn't realize they'd lost numerical superiority so they were willing to engag. Right now, they have numerical superiority so nobody's interested in putting supercaps on the field against them. In the past, since you could logout with aggression and disappear in 15m, people would be willing to risk a supercap brawl and just log out if things were going south. Now, that's impossible so those battles are much rarer.
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jm20 posted:Hold the phone aggression timers are forever? If you get shot in that 15 minute logout period, it resets. Doesn't make much of a practical difference for subcaps because there weren't a lot of times you were going to have that elapse if someone was trying to kill you, but it means 'log out and bet that the enemies can't chew through everyone in 15 minutes with a dying server' is no longer a viable supercap saving strategy.
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jm20 posted:Hold the phone aggression timers are forever? 15min, then another 15min if you get shot, repeat ad infinitum (until downtime)
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jm20 posted:Hold the phone aggression timers are forever? Yes, if you get reaggressed while logged off at any point during your 15m timer, it resets. They had to introduce this because during the tracking/max HP titan era (Tribute war I think?), any time NC./PL's titans where at any sort of risk they'd just log, and we wouldn't be able to chew through literally an entire POS's level of HP before they disappeared.
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"Hit them with explosive" If only drones had selectable damage types.
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Fix Lag posted:"Hit them with explosive" just remember I was flying the same strat fit when I was ceo you do now. fucker <3
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jm20 posted:Hold the phone aggression timers are forever? Each successive act of aggression restarts the 15min timer. CCP got sick of people just logging off Titans to avoid fights. Supercap brawls stopped happening because you'll be stuck until downtime. Them being expensive isn't the reason they don't happen, we'd drop Dreadnoughts on each other back in 2006 when they were stupidly expensive relative to the size of an average player's income. They just changed a bunch of mechanics related to Capitals and Supers that may make a fight more likely since they've become more glass cannon than before. The game has taken a weird twist. There are more people in nullsec than ever before but active player count is down. There has been a shift from one person with 12 alts to 8 players, most of which are newbies. A lot of stupid poo poo being done by these new players who are beginning to strike out on their own. The sov map is actually beginning to look like the balkans since the old empires are getting zerged apart.
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Fix Lag posted:"Hit them with explosive" Drop the neuts and put projectile weapons in there to speed up kills. You're not going to get any use out of them. You need to be in and out of the engagement quickly and capping people out doesn't work towards that. The projectile weapons add like 200-300dps depending on skills.
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YouTuber posted:Drop the neuts and put projectile weapons in there to speed up kills. You're not going to get any use out of them. okay that's it I'm ignoring everything you say from now on
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YouTuber posted:Each successive act of aggression restarts the 15min timer. CCP got sick of people just logging off Titans to avoid fights. Supercap brawls stopped happening because you'll be stuck until downtime. Them being expensive isn't the reason they don't happen, we'd drop Dreadnoughts on each other back in 2006 when they were stupidly expensive relative to the size of an average player's income. They just changed a bunch of mechanics related to Capitals and Supers that may make a fight more likely since they've become more glass cannon than before. That plus time dilation means that a supercap escalation has the potential to take forever. Time dilation slows down time to give servers the time to handle the load which means fights last 10x as long which has the compounding effect in allowing people to burn to the fight and dogpile in continuing the fight even more.
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ullerrm posted:Character flipping is much less of a thing now -- they added a feature where you can extract SP out of a character's head, reverting their skills to an untrained state, in order to produce an "skill injector" that gives a pilot slightly less unallocated SP. These injectors are sellable on the market. This has removed a lot of the demand for the Character Bazaar, because you can now directly trade ISK for SP at a rapid rate. I have 2 perfect dread pilots that were both 'born' 2 weeks ago. What a time to be alive! evilweasel posted:B-R only happened because PL/NC didn't realize they'd lost numerical superiority so they were willing to engag. Right now, they have numerical superiority so nobody's interested in putting supercaps on the field against them. It also had a lot to do with a certain campaign commander not checkboxing properly AND keeping about 200 people out for 7 hours doing things of minimal importance all across Dronelandia before the battle had happened (most of which said "gently caress it" and logged off). Xolve fucked around with this message at 20:41 on May 16, 2016 |
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Xolve posted:I have 2 perfect dread pilots that were both 'born' 2 weeks ago. How much did that cost you in injectors? I was thinking of doing something similar.
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I am enjoying a Modulated Strip Miner II currently 
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ranbo das posted:How much did that cost you in injectors? I was thinking of doing something similar. ~25b or roughly the cost of a single dread pilot on the character bazaar. I did have some leftover injectors from my now super pilot, and from Xolve, who skullmined a bunch of skills for ships better flown on alts. Also- My 6m SP dedicated probing alt was just over 6b.
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Probably still worth it to get to choose a non lovely name.
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ranbo das posted:Probably still worth it to get to choose a non lovely name. that and a clean employment history.
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