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Any PvP in Dark souls that isn't invading in various zones with different thematic gimmick builds is worthless.
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May 16, 2016 18:46
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Loopoo posted:"Oh no! I died and lost 6000 souls, I worked so hard for that! What will I do now?!" "We have traversed the Iron Passage and the Frozen Outskirts and battled many a giantdad and havelmage, you will learn in time."
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May 16, 2016 18:49
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Andrast posted:Any PvP in Dark souls that isn't invading in various zones with different thematic gimmick builds is worthless. I like your style friend.
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May 16, 2016 18:51
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Loopoo posted:I loving love this thread. I feel like I'm a fresh recruit, so green you can still see the grass stains on my rear end. You lot? You lot are the grizzled, scar-ridden, gruff-voiced men sitting in the far corners of the tavern amongst yourselves. So many battles fought and enemies overcome that you've lost any previous optimism or joy you had and have become cold, calculating killing machines. Shrouded in shadow and drinking your sorrows away as I happily skip into the place with a cheery smile on my face and a - what I assume to be - whopping 6000 souls in my pocket. There's a meme out there where one side is like 'Me after Skyrim *Picture of cheerful guy in armor*' followed by 'Me after Dark Souls *war-torn soldier with 1000-yard stare*' that sums this up pretty well "Fight. Struggle. Endure. Suffer. Live." Good ol DS1 trailer
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May 16, 2016 18:55
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TheHoosier posted:There's a meme out there where one side is like 'Me after Skyrim *Picture of cheerful guy in armor*' followed by 'Me after Dark Souls *war-torn soldier with 1000-yard stare*' that sums this up pretty well I'd add to that "Me after Bloodborne" which is just some dude who's super pumped up about how sweet his whip-cane is. Seriously, people focus on Bloodborne as a really dark horror game, but I saw an article recently about how Bloodborne is also, as the article said, "frickin' sweet" in a very '90s comic book sort of way.
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May 16, 2016 18:57
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Diabetic posted:Lore question about Gwynevere: Probably find out in the DLC, though they might not address Flann at all so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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May 16, 2016 18:58
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Harrow posted:I'd add to that "Me after Bloodborne" which is just some dude who's super pumped up about how sweet his whip-cane is. The Whirlygig Saw is pretty frickin sweet so agreed
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May 16, 2016 18:59
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bloodborne definitely has the most "anime" bosses in the series that is, bosses that when I first saw them said to myself "that guy looks straight out of an anime"
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May 16, 2016 18:59
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Harrow posted:I'd add to that "Me after Bloodborne" which is just some dude who's super pumped up about how sweet his whip-cane is. I wish they brought the pile driver back for 3.
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May 16, 2016 18:59
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RBA Starblade posted:I wish they brought the pile driver back for 3. I wish they'd brought a bunch of the weapons back for 3, or at least adapted their move sets to work with the setting. I actually really wanted them to get rid of "two-handing" as a concept, that every weapon must have a two-handed stance, and instead make it "stance change" that works a bit more like trick mode in Bloodborne. Some weapons would still just be two-handed when you stance change, like halberds and greatswords and stuff, but others, like rapiers, would remain one-handed and just get an alternate one-handed move set. They even have multiple stance-type weapon arts that sort of get at that, but to do it you have to two-hand and hold L2. The dual wield weapons in DS3 also kind of take a step in that direction, in that "two-handing" them is actually just pulling out a second one.
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May 16, 2016 19:03
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RBA Starblade posted:I wish they brought the pile driver back for 3. God the pile bunker was one of my favorite weapons, anything that lets me punch and stand a chance while doing so gets a 10/10.
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May 16, 2016 19:04
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Andrast posted:Any PvP in Dark souls that isn't invading in various zones with different thematic gimmick builds is worthless. Me and a friend like to sit in Anor Londo with a random phantom and see how long it takes invaders to kill us or for someone using to latest gimmick from an Iron Pineapple video to show up.
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May 16, 2016 19:06
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Bloodborne is a frickin' sweet game. I'm killing gothic horror aliens with a giant pizza cutter that goes BRRRRRRHHNNNNNNN every time I swing it.
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May 16, 2016 19:06
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TheHoosier posted:There's a meme out there where one side is like 'Me after Skyrim *Picture of cheerful guy in armor*' followed by 'Me after Dark Souls *war-torn soldier with 1000-yard stare*' that sums this up pretty well Reminds me, does anyone have that dark souls meme that has a bunch of location names, like undeadburg, the depths, blighttown, etc along with pics that fit each zone? The depths was easy so it was like pictures of puppies or some such but blighttown had a bunch of real nasty pics of human suffering.
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May 16, 2016 19:10
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So when I went to the deep cathedral the first time patches wasn't there and now won't show up because I have the rosario checkpoint, and I can't get him to spawn at firelink with the tower key at all either. Any ideas?
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May 16, 2016 19:11
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RyokoTK posted:Bloodborne is a frickin' sweet game. Bloodborne sucks my dick from the back. What a bad game. Something I enjoyed doing in Morrowind/Skyrim was looking at particular NPCs in the construction kit, and making my character like them. For the longest time in Morrowind I RP'd an Ordinator from Vivec based on the stats they had in TESCK. How could I do something like that here in Dark Souls? Maybe by killing off Leonhard to become the new ringfinger of Rosaria's covenant. I think it'd be good fun to romp around as Cobra Commander, yelling A WIZARDS MIND, A WARRIORS HAND and buffing my Sailor Moon sword while soul massing nerds. Speaking of fingers, it seems Rosaria's covenant is like that of a hand, with her lieutenants representing a finger. If Leonhard is the ring finger because he's this games Lautrec given that he kills her and jealously guards her soul, then what is Heysel Yellowfinger? At one point in Rosaria's bedchamber I killed a grub man and Heysel's hat and pick dropped, suggesting Heysel had transformed. Man, it's going to take a lot of playthrouhgs. lite_sleepr fucked around with this message at 19:19 on May 16, 2016 |
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May 16, 2016 19:13
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I'm currently using a Fire Uchigatana +3. I have 21 dex and just finished Cathedral of the Deep (I killed boss there and got a Doll?). Should I switch over to Refined? I've heard Sharp is the way to go if I'm going Dex build, but I don't have one of those gems. :\
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May 16, 2016 19:15
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Have you tried adding up the numbers when previewing the infusions? That's the easiest way to tell which way to go. But yeah, if you don't have good STR, refined won't take you as far.
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May 16, 2016 19:17
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Capsaicin posted:I'm currently using a Fire Uchigatana +3. I have 21 dex and just finished Cathedral of the Deep (I killed boss there and got a Doll?). Should I switch over to Refined? I've heard Sharp is the way to go if I'm going Dex build, but I don't have one of those gems. :\
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May 16, 2016 19:19
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Use refined gems for quality builds (40 STR and 40 DEX.)
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May 16, 2016 19:19
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I'm done with two NG runs now, both kind of disappointing magic-users. I want to do a standard big dumb fighter build, but I'm not sure whether to go pure STR or quality. Does quality really get enough extra damage on a B/B weapon over an A/- weapon to make the extra 40 levels' investment worth it?
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May 16, 2016 19:21
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So is there more than one version of the arrow attack from Aldrich that people were annoyed with? It was kind of annoying but didn't seem too hard to evade by rolling a bunch. Also didn't seem to hit too terrible hard if I got hit by part of it.
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May 16, 2016 19:40
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In the second phase his arrows last for about five seconds and track you.
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May 16, 2016 19:42
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I have a Sharp Stone but the game doesn't even give me the options to upgrade anything to Sharp? Do I have to get past a certain point in the game or something?
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May 16, 2016 19:46
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Capsaicin posted:I have a Sharp Stone but the game doesn't even give me the options to upgrade anything to Sharp? Do I have to get past a certain point in the game or something? You need to find Coals to get extra infusions, like embers in the previous games. Andre tells you this if you talk to him a few times. E: Looking back at your last post, you just finished Cathedral of the deep, so if you go back to the Road of Sacrifices and explore the swamp you should find the coal you need shortly. Regy Rusty fucked around with this message at 19:55 on May 16, 2016 |
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May 16, 2016 19:47
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aldrich's arrows in phase 1 are in a wide straight line, if I remember correctly, and only last a few seconds. in phase 2 they track you for a while, and once it hits around the 8 second mark the arrows stop tracking and shoot forward quickly in a single direciton.
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May 16, 2016 19:50
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Diabetic posted:Lore question about Gwynevere: She is currently Rosaria, mother of rebirth. Oceiros's queen may have been her, or her disciple, or someone who inherited her soul for a while. Melanion posted:I'm done with two NG runs now, both kind of disappointing magic-users. I want to do a standard big dumb fighter build, but I'm not sure whether to go pure STR or quality. Does quality really get enough extra damage on a B/B weapon over an A/- weapon to make the extra 40 levels' investment worth it? Only for some weapons. If you are using an axe or club or something, no. If you are using a big japanese katana, yes. 'Quality' will eventually out-do 'Heavy' or 'Sharp' when you get to a real high level, but the other options are like 80-90% as good, and you're probably better off getting lots of health & endurance & some vigor.
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May 16, 2016 19:50
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StringOfLetters posted:She is currently Rosaria, mother of rebirth. Oceiros's queen may have been her, or her disciple, or someone who inherited her soul for a while. can you expand on this? what evidence is there to indicate this?
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May 16, 2016 19:53
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BitterAvatar posted:So is there more than one version of the arrow attack from Aldrich that people were annoyed with? It was kind of annoying but didn't seem too hard to evade by rolling a bunch. Also didn't seem to hit too terrible hard if I got hit by part of it. SciFiDownBeat posted:aldrich's arrows in phase 1 are in a wide straight line, if I remember correctly, and only last a few seconds. in phase 2 they track you for a while, and once it hits around the 8 second mark the arrows stop tracking and shoot forward quickly in a single direciton. And in true DS fashion, right after I bitched about it on the thread I ended up kicking his rear end, so 
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May 16, 2016 19:55
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Melanion posted:I'm done with two NG runs now, both kind of disappointing magic-users. I want to do a standard big dumb fighter build, but I'm not sure whether to go pure STR or quality. Does quality really get enough extra damage on a B/B weapon over an A/- weapon to make the extra 40 levels' investment worth it? It's usually not 40 levels of investment, it's more like 20-30 depending on what you plan on using. 20 Dex is required for the Farron Greatsword, which is the most demanding UGS as far as dex goes.
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May 16, 2016 19:56
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oh goddamnit i'm in a loving swamp  This is the worst part of the game
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May 16, 2016 19:56
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So in NG I invested in STR and whatever stats to use whatever I wanted to be melee with some buffs, NG+ I did STR+INT and did a sorcery caster with MLGS for melee, and for NG++ I want to go DEX/FTH. What are some good weapons to use for this? What are the best miracles? I'm probably going to drop 50 levels into FTH for the gently caress of it.
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May 16, 2016 20:04
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VulgarandStupid posted:It's usually not 40 levels of investment, it's more like 20-30 depending on what you plan on using. 20 Dex is required for the Farron Greatsword, which is the most demanding UGS as far as dex goes. If you're using the Farron Greatsword you do want higher dex, though, since it scales B with that.
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May 16, 2016 20:11
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lite_sleepr posted:Use refined gems for quality builds (40 STR and 40 DEX.) Do you really get much more from going 40/40 or could you stop at 30/30?
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May 16, 2016 20:11
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Capsaicin posted:oh goddamnit i'm in a loving swamp
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May 16, 2016 20:15
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hard counter posted:Do you really get much more from going 40/40 or could you stop at 30/30? at that point why not go 40/x and make it heavy or sharp
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May 16, 2016 20:15
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The reason I don't follow the SL meta is because its always at a ridiculously high number so it effectively kills invasions outside of a handful of hotspots. I care more about actually being able to invade in a variety of areas without waiting forever so I keep my SL and equipment level lower.
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May 16, 2016 20:16
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SciFiDownBeat posted:can you expand on this? what evidence is there to indicate this? Of the two old Princess Guard miracles in the game, her soul can be transposed into one. The Boreal Dancer has the other, and she's referred to as a distant daughter of the old royalty.
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May 16, 2016 20:18
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SciFiDownBeat posted:can you expand on this? what evidence is there to indicate this? She strikes me as more of a copypasta with frog DNA like Karla or Siegward, a daughter of Gwynevere, rather than Gwynevere herself. That said, Leonhard kidnaps her soul to Gwynevere's room in Anor Londo. You can make one of Gwynevere's miracles from her soul (you can also make one from Dancer's). She also sits on a couch and you kneel to her.
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May 16, 2016 20:19
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Akuma posted:So in NG I invested in STR and whatever stats to use whatever I wanted to be melee with some buffs, NG+ I did STR+INT and did a sorcery caster with MLGS for melee, and for NG++ I want to go DEX/FTH. What are some good weapons to use for this? What are the best miracles? I'm probably going to drop 50 levels into FTH for the gently caress of it. FTH is not going to be as good an offensive caster as pyro or even sorc no matter what you do, barring gimmicky WoG stuff. It really excels at buffs, however. If you're willing to push ATT to 24, you can run with Sacred Oath, Deep Protection and your weapon buff of choice and be an extremely hard-hitting and durable melee character. If you do that you really only need 28 FTH (or 30 for Lightning Blade), though three of the weapon buffs scale with spell buff which scales with faith. Estus is so much faster than any of the heal miracles that they're only worth it for out-of-combat healing or setting up a heavy regen build if you're into that. Otherwise, pump DEX and pick a weapon you like that scales well with sharp. e: I should point out that I only know the FTH side of this, my last character was extreme FTH with just enough STR/DEX to wield what I wanted. Toward the end of the game I was running Sacred Oath/Deep Protection/Great Lightning Spear weilding a lightning longsword and I had a lot of fun learning to time point-blank spears during boss' recovery animations. If you don't want to invest so much into ATT you can also keep Sunlight Straight Sword in your 2nd or 3rd slot and use its version of Sacred Oath, since it persists even if you switch weapons. Melanion fucked around with this message at 20:41 on May 16, 2016 |
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