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Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.
So in productive death penalty chat, what's your favorite kind of senseless murder?

I think that lethal injection is a bit too involved, and most drug companies don't want to be associated with Pandamoaniums kind of idiot who likes to senselessly murder people to make their dicks feel big.

Firing squad is a little messy, and from what I hear they don't even do the "many guys one bullet" thing here so some poor sod has to live with doing the dirt by himself.

Hanging is pretty archaic (and not good for fatass Americans).

Enforced nitrogen narcosis is kind of a neat idea, I've heard it's kind of a pleasant way to go out, and it's pretty cheap and can't really gently caress up.

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Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
How about a roller coaster that kills you with G-forces?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_Coaster

quote:

The Euthanasia Coaster is an art concept for a steel roller coaster designed to kill its passengers.[1] In 2010, it was designed and made into a scale model by Julijonas Urbonas, a PhD candidate at the Royal College of Art in London. Urbonas, who has worked at an amusement park, stated that the goal of his concept roller coaster is to take lives "with elegance and euphoria".[2] As for practical applications of his design, Urbonas mentioned "euthanasia" or "execution".[3] John Allen, who served as president of the Philadelphia Toboggan Company, inspired Urbonas with his description of the "ultimate" roller coaster as one that "sends out 24 people and they all come back dead".[4]

Pandemonium
Dec 25, 2004

please let me show you screenshots of all The Ladies swooning over me

YF19pilot posted:

No, you stupid poo poo heel! The argument is if loving Ma is allowed to circumvent the due process of this nation for what he hopes to be some personal political gain and a "bright mark" on his legacy, then some guy who isn't an outright monster can get caught up in the same situation later on down the road, leading to a great injustice. It's not about executing people (well, partly it is), it's about punishing people for political reasons. Your only reaction is "welp, couldn't have happened to a nicer guy!" This is suppose to be "Good China" not loving Iran.

Within this good post you've made, you've admitted that it is about executing people in addition to Ma being a big bully and circumventing due process. If you could read what I've written a little more carefully, you'd see I do have a problem with latter but not with the former. Yet, my problem with the latter is within the realm of the real world--i.e., I know this is a one-off scenario and not the harbinger of Taiwan's government extrajudicially murdering scores of citizens, so I'm just gonna shoulder shrug it off as a terrible decision by an outgoing president but not lose any sleep over it.

url posted:

You don't get to decide what people do and do not draw from what your posted words. If you struggle with the awesome responsibility of writing, then don't give up that day job, I guess photocopying and cut/pasting work sheets is the right job for you.

Your inability to cope with peer review is kinda detrimental to the writing process imho. Just saying, bro.

You made an appeal to authority based on the anecdote of "my friends" (the normies). Lol at demeaning engineers as being a lower class. And for a third, lol if you think I "tutor a bunch of engineers".

For my money, you hang around with a few students with populist ill thought out opinions, some of whom are basically your acolytes and probably catamites.

You haven't begun to address the universally agreed upon and widely declared inhumanity of the death sentence, something you're prepared to hand wave away with a disconcertingly trite "overzealousness".

If anything, you exhibit the colonial mindset with your stance that "the natives will learn in due course with a little training".

For all your 'this great country', I'd bet my bottom dollar you're the one preparing an exit - simply because thou doth protest too much.

Bahaha, did you actually use peer review to describe posting on a dead internet forum? Jesus Christ, this isn't a loving medical journal, you dumbass. But you're right. You're free to abstract whatever you want out of my posts--to take something written as a response to another poster and pretend like it was meant to be written in response to something you posted, or various other dumb internet posting phenomena.

And the point I made re: barbarism was not in response to my friends' views, either, you idiot, but to the media reporting on how the Everyman/woman responded to this execution. Have a look at what the news has reported, please. From what I read, lot's of average Taiwanese quite content with the outcome. So again, if my shoulder shrugging is barbarism, what is their contentment?

I don't bring up dumb poo poo like this with friends to get a feel for how they feel because this is a dumb topic fit only for dumb goons who wish to virtue signal and belabor obvious points.


Spanish Matlock posted:

So in productive death penalty chat, what's your favorite kind of senseless murder?

I think that lethal injection is a bit too involved, and most drug companies don't want to be associated with Pandamoaniums kind of idiot who likes to senselessly murder people to make their dicks feel big.

Firing squad is a little messy, and from what I hear they don't even do the "many guys one bullet" thing here so some poor sod has to live with doing the dirt by himself.

Hanging is pretty archaic (and not good for fatass Americans).

Enforced nitrogen narcosis is kind of a neat idea, I've heard it's kind of a pleasant way to go out, and it's pretty cheap and can't really gently caress up.

This is why internet posting is such a struggle for some people (YF19 Pilot). Apparently his argument is only tenuously related to the death penalty, yet here we have another goon whose clearly wanting to make it about the death penalty and how he's morally good if not superior because he has the right view on the death penalty, and this execution is just as much about the death penalty as it is about Ma's political machinations. Your argument is more about Ma maybe, YF19Pilot, but it's clear from others' posts that the death penalty is the key and is bad because it is tyool 2016 and that is just as much a part of their arguments as Ma. So don't post as if you are an authority on the general mood of the thread, please.

Hanging would be pretty great for Americans, are you kidding? Super heavy means they would be more likely to snap their necks. Or does it mean the fat surrounding their necks would protect them? Hmmm...

Drugs administered correctly is the right answer. But they don't have qualified people making the cocktails in the US from what I remember, so it's definitely still problematic.

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

Pandemonium posted:


This is why internet posting is such a struggle for some people (YF19 Pilot).

Yes, it's quite the sad affair really, how I'm unable to post such voluminous word vomit without care. Oh, this is you "trolling" me, isn't it? Ah, panda, you card. Teach me your ways of being such an Internet Cool Guy.

Pandemonium
Dec 25, 2004

please let me show you screenshots of all The Ladies swooning over me
You know I was referring to your being unable to parse other's arguments and incorrectly placing everyone in your argument-camp. You shouldn't make posts that are any dumber than that, yet here we are...

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

Pandemonium posted:

You know I was referring to your being unable to parse other's arguments and incorrectly placing everyone in your argument-camp. You shouldn't make posts that are any dumber than that, yet here we are...

You are certainly the master. :allears:

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.

Pandemonium posted:

Hanging would be pretty great for Americans, are you kidding? Super heavy means they would be more likely to snap their necks. Or does it mean the fat surrounding their necks would protect them? Hmmm...

Drugs administered correctly is the right answer. But they don't have qualified people making the cocktails in the US from what I remember, so it's definitely still problematic.

Nah, it's getting harder and harder to find drug companies who want to sell involuntary death, and compounding pharmacies and supplier "privacy" laws are just kicking the can down the road a bit.

Hanging can make fat people's heads pop off, which is absolutely gross and we might as well just go back to beheading at that point, where we could at least reasonably catch most of it with a tarp.

quote:

How about a roller coaster that kills you with G-forces?

Down.

POCKET CHOMP
Jul 20, 2003

me irl.

Spanish Matlock posted:

Nah, it's getting harder and harder to find drug companies who want to sell involuntary death, and compounding pharmacies and supplier "privacy" laws are just kicking the can down the road a bit.

This was a front page story in many newspapers (including at least the Taipei Times here) over the weekend with Pfizer finally joining the list of drug companies that is blocking their products from being used in executions. Please read the news, Panda! It's good 4 u.

duckfarts
Jul 2, 2010

~ shameful ~





Soiled Meat


:munch: literally eating popcorn right now

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.

POCKET CHOMP posted:

This was a front page story in many newspapers (including at least the Taipei Times here) over the weekend with Pfizer finally joining the list of drug companies that is blocking their products from being used in executions. Please read the news, Panda! It's good 4 u.

Yeah probably not going to happen.

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Pandemonium
Dec 25, 2004

please let me show you screenshots of all The Ladies swooning over me

POCKET CHOMP posted:

This was a front page story in many newspapers (including at least the Taipei Times here) over the weekend with Pfizer finally joining the list of drug companies that is blocking their products from being used in executions. Please read the news, Panda! It's good 4 u.

That's alright. The news is click bait nonsense that is agenda driven and written by pretentious idiots the world over without even so much as an attempt to report. Journalism is dead--if it ever was alive. This goes double for any science-related news.

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.

Pandemonium posted:

That's alright. The news is click bait nonsense that is agenda driven and written by pretentious idiots the world over without even so much as an attempt to report. Journalism is dead--if it ever was alive. This goes double for any science-related news.

Yeah, reading is hard, agree.

Pandemonium
Dec 25, 2004

please let me show you screenshots of all The Ladies swooning over me
It's cute that that is your takeaway from my post. I'll read a long-form New Yorker article every now and again and if I want to learn some new vocabulary I'll go read a Taiwanese news article, but lol if you think you can hold me not reading the Taipei Times over my head as if it's a character defect.

Also, how quickly you forget my wall of (good) books, which are really maybe 1/4 or 1/5 of the books I own, the rest of course being in my laojia.

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

No one remembers what books you own because no one cares enough to.

Pandemonium
Dec 25, 2004

please let me show you screenshots of all The Ladies swooning over me
Great job missing the point entirely. Here, I'll simplify what happened for you:

A (me): news sucks.
B: haha you can't read.
A: check photographic evidence in thread RE: previous statement.
C (you): durrrr no one cares what books you have at home durrr

Do you see how what the books are has no relevance to the discussion and you bringing them up shows you fail to follow threads/are just stretching as much as you can to post a sick burn. Either way, you come across as an idiot.

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Well, who am I to reject an expert opinion?

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

Pandemonium posted:

That's alright. The news is click bait nonsense that is agenda driven and written by pretentious idiots the world over without even so much as an attempt to report. Journalism is dead--if it ever was alive. This goes double for any science-related news.

Weren't you just using the "click bait nonsense" media as your appeal to authority on how you're more in tune with what the will and opinions of the EverymanTM Taiwanese feel regarding the execution?


Pandemonium posted:

And the point I made re: barbarism was not in response to my friends' views, either, you idiot, but to the media reporting on how the Everyman/woman responded to this execution. Have a look at what the news has reported, please. From what I read, lot's of average Taiwanese quite content with the outcome. So again, if my shoulder shrugging is barbarism, what is their contentment?

Yes, you were.

Pandemonium
Dec 25, 2004

please let me show you screenshots of all The Ladies swooning over me
And I'll kindly direct you to my post referring to how I read Taiwanese news on occasion, mostly for exposure to new vocabulary. But that's takes effort, eh?

Edit: and popping on FB these days is pretty much synonymous with going on a news site, so I do get fed news there willingly or not.

Pandemonium fucked around with this message at 06:03 on May 17, 2016

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Chantilly Say posted:

Not sure what you're getting at, to be honest.

This is Pandemonium's take on the matter.

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.

Pandemonium posted:

And I'll kindly direct you to my post referring to how I read Taiwanese news on occasion, mostly for exposure to new vocabulary. But that's takes effort, eh?

Edit: and popping on FB these days is pretty much synonymous with going on a news site, so I do get fed news there willingly or not.

Ill have to thank Lowtax for you.

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

Pandemonium posted:

And I'll kindly direct you to my post referring to how I read Taiwanese news on occasion, mostly for exposure to new vocabulary. But that's takes effort, eh?

Edit: and popping on FB these days is pretty much synonymous with going on a news site, so I do get fed news there willingly or not.

Pandemonium, in this thread: "I have a better understanding of the feelings and opinions of the Taiwanese people, because I only occasionally read their newspapers--which are utter poo poo, unreliable agenda filled media rags--and also post on Facebook."

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.
No no he has lots of Taiwanese friends, hashtag notracist.

Pandemonium
Dec 25, 2004

please let me show you screenshots of all The Ladies swooning over me
Umm, where did I say I post on facebook? Going onto facebook does not necessarily mean one is posting anything. Wish you all would stop with the guesswork deductions because you are not very good at it.

And yeah, interviews with truck drivers about an issue is a bit better gauge of what the population feels than you lot chatting with your privileged pals at revolver or wherever it is goons hang out. Never mind if a poll gets released. If you can't accept that, that's on you. It's the truth, though. Look at how people post here about their friends. Clearly you are all running around with the creme de la creme of Taiwan, those well-educated sort that echo your western sentiments and allow you to casually assert based on your dumbshit anecdotal experiences that you know what's going on amongst Taiwanese over and over. And when someone points out that ain't worth poo poo, you lot will deflect to saying: well your friends are dumb, despite me never once mentioning that my understanding of Taiwaneses' reactions to a given story are based on what my friend tell me. Again, stupid deductive conjecturing, something you all should stop. I did it once, was wrong, and haven't done it since. Despite being wrong again and again, other posters here just can't seem to stop conjecturing and shoving their foots straight into their mouths!

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Oh poo poo you hang out at Revolver don't you.

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.

Pandemonium posted:

Umm, where did I say I post on facebook? Going onto facebook does not necessarily mean one is posting anything. Wish you all would stop with the guesswork deductions because you are not very good at it.

Lol you activated my unbelievably pedantic trap card!


TetsuoTW posted:

Oh poo poo you hang out at Revolver don't you.

I would have met him by now if he did, and no one at rev is that insanely up their own rear end.

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.
Wait there was that one guy who kept punching people in the dick like it was some utterly hilarious joke until the cops escorted him away, that could be panda.

Pandemonium
Dec 25, 2004

please let me show you screenshots of all The Ladies swooning over me
Nah, I walked by one day last week. That's my extent of Revolver experience. I've been to The Beat and Roxy Rocker so far. Choosing records to play at the latter was a good time. Otherwise....

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

Pandemonium posted:

It's cute you still try to peddle this ESL worksheet poo poo when I work with national and international publishers. Whatever works for you and makes you feel better, I guess...

There is no way to tell you this without hurting you deeply, but I'm an interpreter.

I didn't pay any dues, as you put it, as an ESL teacher. I've never even set foot in a cram school. I only do translation for companies I have standing relationships with, frankly because I simply don't need the work, and I don't tutor English at all.

e: also I legitimately think the fact you were able to move from teaching to publishing materials is great and impressive. Props, but wake the gently caress up, you're still in the ESL world.

sentimental snail fucked around with this message at 08:31 on May 17, 2016

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

So is The Beat the place that's filling the Luxy Hole?

this is a stickup posted:

There is no way to tell you this without hurting you deeply, but I'm an interpreter.

I didn't pay any dues, as you put it, as an ESL teacher. I've never even set foot in a cram school. I only do translation for companies I have standing relationships with, frankly because I simply don't need the work, and I don't tutor English at all.
Do you also do translation, or just interpreting? There are definitely times I could use another potential person to refer clients to when I'm already full up.

quadrophrenic
Feb 4, 2011

WIN MARNIE WIN
who cares about what job a person has


pandemonium could be the gaddamn president of the universe and i'd still think he's a twat on the internet

i never understood why you guys get so caught up in the career elitism troll

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.
Revolver is mostly a chill place for chatting with a wide variety of cool people so it's not really a raging man child kind of venue.

url
Apr 23, 2007

internet gnuru

TetsuoTW posted:

So is The Beat the place that's filling the Luxy Hole?

Do you also do translation, or just interpreting? There are definitely times I could use another potential person to refer clients to when I'm already full up.

also asking this

url
Apr 23, 2007

internet gnuru

quadrophrenic posted:

who cares about what job a person has
i never understood why you guys get so caught up in the career elitism troll

:stoke:

The puppet mastery is strong in this one

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.
Apparently the beat is around where Beer N Cheese used to be? Not like prime bar location, but I guess it's cool that there's still something over there?

Pandemonium
Dec 25, 2004

please let me show you screenshots of all The Ladies swooning over me
The Beat is literally Roxy 99 re-branded. With poo poo DJs and no class just like before! (Or so I'm told)

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.
Oh yeah that place sucked. Frank hit on a Serbian geologist there once or something

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

TetsuoTW posted:

Do you also do translation, or just interpreting? There are definitely times I could use another potential person to refer clients to when I'm already full up.

Interpreting is more my thing, which is why I usually only translate for companies I already work with, but I'll send you a PM when I'm not phoneposting. If you're full up, feel free to refer/contact me.

quadrophrenic posted:

who cares about what job a person has


i never understood why you guys get so caught up in the career elitism troll

I don't have anything against ESL teachers, tutors or publishers. I think they're all great jobs to have in Taiwan or otherwise.

One of my favorite things about interpreting is meeting people from a wide variety of fields, and learning as much about their company/industry as possible. So I guess I'm the guy who cares what job a person has, in a curious way :unsmith:

I actually have a lot of real questions I'd love to ask Pandemonium about his job, but I think he would get defensive and somehow take them as personal attacks

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Then again, 99 may have been poo poo but at least it's not Box or whatever that place is called now.

this is a stickup posted:

Interpreting is more my thing, which is why I usually only translate for companies I already work with, but I'll send you a PM when I'm not phoneposting. If you're full up, feel free to refer/contact me.
Cool cool. It doesn't happen often that I need to hand work off, but when I do have to it's nice to have extra pairs of trustworthy hands to turn it over to.

sub supau fucked around with this message at 09:44 on May 17, 2016

Spanish Matlock
Sep 6, 2004

If you want to play the I-didn't-know-this-was-a-hippo-bar game with me, that's fine.

TetsuoTW posted:

Then again, 99 may have been poo poo but at least it's not Box or whatever that place is called now.

Herpes Complex. Oh you mean officially.

The club scene has died down remarkably in the last few years, everyone I meet basically yoyos between Roxy and Korner/The Wall. There's no four free beers wednesday at Roxy anymore, and there's no late night sessions at Vibe. It's kind of sad.

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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

I went to Revolver once, it was ok. I fell asleep outside waiting for friends.

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