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SonicRulez posted:Elongated Man couldn't make that much of a reach. Pete Ross could. After some addictive kryptonite gum. Then he'd go street racing.
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enraged_camel posted:Like I said, he's addicted to speed. Yeah, I suppose I can't think of any reason the writers would give him that particular trait besides racism.
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May 16, 2016 05:45
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Robot Hobo posted:So, your complaint is that WALLY WEST has a keen interest in going fast?
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SonicRulez posted:Elongated Man couldn't make that much of a reach. Yeah it's a pretty big stretch
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May 16, 2016 06:22
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Thanks everybody I'm here all week e: Tip your bartender!
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May 16, 2016 06:52
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He was sipping on gingold and juice.
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Robot Hobo posted:I have to admit, the "Black guy = Expert mechanic for the team" is kind of an odd niche that seems to pop up a lot. It's not necessarily bad, but it does seem to be overused at this point. You even left out Winston Zeddemore, who kept the Ecto-1 purring like a kitten for the Ghostbuters. Of course, he also filled the role of "The one guy in the entire organization who isn't kind of a lunatic and/or a con-man." I don't think it's nearly as prevalent as 'Asian character with a small streak of different colored hair' yet though.
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I imagine they make a lot of black characters into mechanics because they want to emphasize know-how and professional work ethic without divorcing them from a solidly blue collar origin. Like, they're still "from the streets" and aren't wealthy, but understand complex systems and are hard-working. It's definitely weird in a racist way, because "blue collar" and "from the streets" are still somehow vital pieces of characterization. Jax couldn't simply be a former HS athlete who's now studying sociology...he's gotta be a former HS athlete who's now a dirt-poor mechanic in oily coveralls. He needs to be marked as lower-class to contrast him with Stein, a bourgeois egghead in a tweed jacket. Ronnie was also Stein's "opposite," but only in that he was young and hot, because he was an engineer who built a particle accelerator.
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A dirt poor mechanic has made a much smarter choice than a student of sociology.
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Xealot posted:I imagine they make a lot of black characters into mechanics because they want to emphasize know-how and professional work ethic without divorcing them from a solidly blue collar origin. Like, they're still "from the streets" and aren't wealthy, but understand complex systems and are hard-working. It's definitely weird in a racist way, because "blue collar" and "from the streets" are still somehow vital pieces of characterization. Jax and Stein's relationship is way more interesting than Ronnie and Stein's was
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May 16, 2016 14:17
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The cops aren't going to be as lenient when the speeder is black.
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boom boom boom posted:Jax and Stein's relationship is way more interesting than Ronnie and Stein's was Jax has had more time to develop it too fwiw.
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May 16, 2016 21:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpD3_RtHxnU please win Zoom
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpD3_RtHxnU Zoom is going to send Iris to the 30th century edit: Either Wally doesn't know, or Barry doesn't know Wally knows, because Barry's using Flashvoice to talk to him
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Yeah honestly if I hadn't watched the actual rest of this season, this finale would seem like the coolest goddamn thing ever.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpD3_RtHxnU  Black Canary finally got a special effect for her canary scream ahahhahaha
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enraged_camel posted:
Isn't she still dead?
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:Isn't she still dead? alternate universes
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SonicRulez posted:I get the feeling Henry is dead. It seems like they're setting Barry up for a pretty big fall with how cocky he is being during that preview and that scream at the end.
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Guy A. Person posted:It seems like they're setting Barry up for a pretty big fall with how cocky he is being during that preview and that scream at the end. would be retarded. He's being arrogant because he just got a big thumbs up from SpeedGod. It's not a character flaw.
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boom boom boom posted:would be retarded. He's being arrogant because he just got a big thumbs up from SpeedGod. It's not a character flaw. Oh yes but even the speed gods cannot contend with a CW love triangle. Its gravity extends into all 9 dimensions and crushes everything to gently caress.
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Falun Bong Refugee posted:Isn't she still dead? that's what so funny about it
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boom boom boom posted:would be retarded. He's being arrogant because he just got a big thumbs up from SpeedGod. It's not a character flaw. He's misconstrued "You're doin a good job, kid" for "You are God now" and that is the perfect set up for a fall. He thinks his new power up has made him unbeatable. The trailer is pretty up front with that, I'm not even looking much into it. Cisco and the others are like "Let us help you" and he's like "It's literally not possible for us to lose". Despite there being like 30 metas wreaking havoc. He deserves whatever happens to him.
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May 17, 2016 02:40
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SonicRulez posted:He's misconstrued "You're doin a good job, kid" for "You are God now" and that is the perfect set up for a fall. He thinks his new power up has made him unbeatable. The trailer is pretty up front with that, I'm not even looking much into it. Cisco and the others are like "Let us help you" and he's like "It's literally not possible for us to lose". Despite there being like 30 metas wreaking havoc. He deserves whatever happens to him. Again, the speed force seems super manipulative. Also, why give the power to bad guys? Unless there is an evil speed force god.
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SonicRulez posted:I get the feeling Henry is dead. Yeah, that seems like kind of a foregone conclusion at this point. Bring him back so they can kill him off for dramatic effect.
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Invalid Validation posted:Barry was just going on a spirit quest, he just acid tripped speed force talking to him. I assume his spirit animal was a hedgehog?
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Mooseontheloose posted:Again, the speed force seems super manipulative. Also, why give the power to bad guys? Unless there is an evil speed force god. Whenever Speedforce talked about itself/themselves, a plural form was always used ("we" etc.) Maybe they don't have consensus, or more likely, there's an infinite number of them and consensus is impossible 
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boom boom boom posted:He's being arrogant because he just got a big thumbs up from SpeedGod. It's not a character flaw.
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Mooseontheloose posted:Again, the speed force seems super manipulative. Also, why give the power to bad guys? Unless there is an evil speed force god. We haven't really seen bad guys have it. Thawne has his Tachyon device and did some other fuckery to achieve it. Zoom was hopped up on Velocity until he stole Barry's powers. So was uh....evil chick speedster. The only person who got the Speed Force without cheating is our hero.
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Aphrodite posted:A dirt poor mechanic has made a much smarter choice than a student of sociology. Yes, fine. He could also work at a temp agency or a CC Jitters where he earns minimum wage, to suggest the "failed HS athlete" thing. But a mechanic sells all the right subtextual associations the writers were going for: he's physical, masculine, dirty, strong. The implicit racism is that he "fits" in some physical laborer role...that a job defined by physicality and elbow grease is consistent with his low-class blackness, as a contrast to Stein's abstract intellectualism which gels with his affluent whiteness. Stein is the brains and Jax is the brawn. That dichotomy was semi-present with Ronnie, but the show explored it through Ronnie's youth, his brashness, his vitality. There wasn't actually a socioeconomic component.
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Zoom is going to start reaching into dimensions, killing all of Barry's alternate mothers in front of him.
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That would be bold as gently caress but they'd never do it e: That is like, Garth Ennis level gently caress-you
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What I want to know is what kind of powers does the random zoot-suit villain have??? Also that drat story the speed-force mom and Barry read makes no goddamn sense. Like, your mother loves you, and therefore, you don't need teeth? What?
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Fasdar posted:What I want to know is what kind of powers does the random zoot-suit villain have??? Super-trombone playing.
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Fasdar posted:Also that drat story the speed-force mom and Barry read makes no goddamn sense. Like, your mother loves you, and therefore, you don't need teeth? What? Pretty sure it's a lesson in acceptance, which Barry supposedly needed re: his mother's death.
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Fasdar posted:What I want to know is what kind of powers does the random zoot-suit villain have??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SlhkpKrw5E&t=2s
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