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I took that as meaning that Aldrich ate the painting itself and consumed everything in it, including the weird powers it had. Which gave him the magic to set up the barrier for his pal the Pontiff. Also I definitely think the Pontiff and Aldrich knew about Yorshka; the area she inhabits is called the Prison Tower. She's being held captive there. If she was put there for her own protection I'd think she would know about it. Instead she's ignorant of the only way into the tower. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 05:19 on May 17, 2016 |
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the painting still exists because I can't live in a world where my friends the basement bonewheels aren't still around
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Patch 1.07 notes: Added missing bonewheels to the streets of Irithyll.
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turtlecrunch posted:Patch 1.07 notes: Added missing bonewheels to the streets of Irithyll. Finally, even more incentive to just skateboard through the entirety of Irithyll as fast as humanly possible. Internet Kraken posted:Also I definitely think the Pontiff and Aldrich knew about Yorshka; the area she inhabits is called the Prison Tower. She's being held captive there. If she was put there for her own protection I'd think she would know about it. Instead she's ignorant of the only way into the tower. If you manage to progress in the Blades of the Darkmoon Covenant (which, hah!), she outright says that Sulyvahn led a coup against Gwyndolin when the latter fell ill, setting himself up as Pontiff (and, thus, effective ruler of Irithyll and Anor Londo) and imprisoning Yorshka in the tower. Vermain fucked around with this message at 05:22 on May 17, 2016 |
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Okay the forums ate my edit to my FTH post. I forgot to mention Lightning Stake. It out-damages lesser and greater lightning spears, but is point-blank only. I haven't tested it against Sunlight Spear. The cool thing with it is the animation is identical to the spears. If you start a PvP fight with a couple of spears and a token effort to keep your distance, most people are going to try and rush in to punish you. If you're good at anticipating this you can do a stake instead and end a lot of matchups very decisively. Most people will time their rush to stagger you out of your cast, Unfaltering Prayer is your friend there.
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I wish the Firelink Greatsword was better outside of the PvP gimmick of punting people off ledges with the weapon art. I'm trying to do a NG+ gimmick run using all of the Firelink set plus the sword, but it's really pretty poor compared to just sticking with the old straight sword and R1 spamming everything to death. 
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Vermain posted:If you manage to progress in the Blades of the Darkmoon Covenant (which, hah!) Oh yeah well you know I was totally getting to that... for the lore... Well poop now I don't know what's what. 5:06 for curious parties https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Qg-FP9TqQ&t=506s e: Do we know why Gwyndolin fell ill? Is it because the Age of Fire is ending? NK still seems hale aside from his face melting off. turtlecrunch fucked around with this message at 05:33 on May 17, 2016 |
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So, my first character was a quality sword-and-board with some pyro spells to help me out. My second character was a big beeferino with high STR that used Greataxes (now a STR/FTH hybrid, since he's kinda my main file). My third character was a RAW rear end buffer. Anyone got any fun ideas for a fourth character build that deviates from these other ones?
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Chard posted:If I miss a +1 ring in NG+, will it still be there in NG++? Yup.
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turtlecrunch posted:Do we know why Gwyndolin fell ill? Is it because the Age of Fire is ending? NK still seems hale aside from his face melting off. I think it's just "generic illness." There's nothing in the game that indicates that Sulyvahn put a hex on him or whatever, so the most that can be said is that he fell ill and Sulyvahn took the opportunity to usurp him and then feed him to Aldrich.
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I've killed 250 of these loving slugs without getting a heavy gem. Can anyone confirm that they even drop some, or if there's a better spot to farm a heavy gem?
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Vermain posted:Finally, even more incentive to just skateboard through the entirety of Irithyll as fast as humanly possible. Whatever dude, the first time in Irithyll I really struggled but now I loving style on those Pontiff Knights and it feels fantastic. Irithyll is possibly my favorite zone in the game now that I got (very slightly) gud. On my first playthrough I think I died four times in that first little bit with the three Pontiff Knights (I ardently refused to skip a single enemy that game). My last character had a Winged Knight Halberd and clowned those fuckers without taking a single hit.
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Deckit posted:Yup. Groovy. On an unrelated note, with these (semi-scattered) stats would I be better off keeping my Gotthard's at Raw +10 with CMW, or infusing somehow?  Internet Kraken posted:I've killed 250 of these loving slugs without getting a heavy gem. Can anyone confirm that they even drop some, or if there's a better spot to farm a heavy gem? I'm pretty sure you can get Heavy Gem from just plain ol' Hollows, I think I just snagged on on the roof near Tower on the Wall with the pus of man.
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Vermain posted:I think it's just "generic illness." There's nothing in the game that indicates that Sulyvahn put a hex on him or whatever, so the most that can be said is that he fell ill and Sulyvahn took the opportunity to usurp him and then feed him to Aldrich. yeah, all you get from the new priscilla is that sully declared himself pontiff without due process, but there's no indication of what the due process for becoming the pontiff should have been, nor why someone would need to be pontiff in the first place. also, it's something that 100% doesn't exist in DS1, so there's nothing you can fall back on to go "oh that's why some random guy we know nothing about was able to feed a god to a glorified chosen undead". it's an explanation for a question that was never asked that ends up explaining less than if the line of dialogue was never included in the first place. you know, regular dark souls NPC chatter. edit: again, the final DLC for DS3 is going to by gwyn, vendrick, and aldia sitting at the end of a featureless hallway that is composed of the same 64x64 neon green poison texture repeated infinitely, and when you attempt to talk to any of them they'll all say "lol nothing matters" before softbanning your character and corrupting your save. Freaking Crumbum fucked around with this message at 05:56 on May 17, 2016 |
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homeless poster posted:edit: again, the final DLC for DS3 is going to by gwyn, vendrick, and aldia sitting at the end of a featureless hallway that is composed of the same 64x64 neon green poison texture repeated infinitely, and when you attempt to talk to any of them they'll all say "lol nothing matters" before softbanning your character and corrupting your save. Don't be ridiculous. They would all be inside an endless elevator.
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Genocyber posted:The evangelists have a beard you dolt. But they're ladies
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I'm sure there's a storied four-game tradition backing this up, but would it have killed them to have 'Reinforce Estus Flask' and 'Burn Undead Bone Shard' appear in their menus only when you actually have one of those items?
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Genocyber posted:Most talismans have the standard one which can be broken but it's tough to do. Saint's Talisman's will break in about two hits of anything. The strongest if that of the Sunlight Talisman which is, AFAIK, unbreakable. Sunlight Talisman grants 120 DS1-style poise. Saint's grants 30.
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homeless poster posted:yeah, all you get from the new priscilla is that sully declared himself pontiff without due process, but there's no indication of what the due process for becoming the pontiff should have been, nor why someone would need to be pontiff in the first place. also, it's something that 100% doesn't exist in DS1, so there's nothing you can fall back on to go "oh that's why some random guy we know nothing about was able to feed a god to a glorified chosen undead". Even a lot of the item descriptions - the mainstay of the piecemeal approach that DS1 took - are too loving vague to say anything about the plot aside from the broadest strokes possible. Like, here's what I've figured out about the backstory/plot:
Tallgeese posted:Sunlight Talisman grants 120 DS1-style poise. I assumed that Saint's was garbage; I hate being proved right. Vermain fucked around with this message at 06:25 on May 17, 2016 |
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Got invaded by a purple just after starting Cathedral. He didn't attack immediately, so I just started running through the level, keeping an eye on my back. He followed me around applauding while I looted everything, unlocked shortcuts, etc. Then when I got to the boss fog, we had an honorable duel. Just barely beat him. Thanks for adding some tension to a zone that's become pretty rote, mad purple bro.
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Deckit posted:Part 2 of killing bosses with the Dancer blades! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUhhx8ZU5HU Good poo poo, man. You've got more patience than I do. Have you found a situation in which the L2 spin is useful yet? I kept trying it on bosses and they'd always just armor through the spin and swat me for 3/4 my health.
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Melanion posted:I'm sure there's a storied four-game tradition backing this up, but would it have killed them to have 'Reinforce Estus Flask' and 'Burn Undead Bone Shard' appear in their menus only when you actually have one of those items? The best part is that the coal/umbral ash prompts don't appear if you don't have the items.
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To be fair to From, they probably put it there so that you know to use them there.
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Vermain posted:lore They've dipped into the season pass well and gone hollow, fallen to the abyss; these are deliberate loose ends to sell DLC. Besides that though it's really clear that the world is physically contracting - the final area and boss fight, in the burnt-down stump of an archtree are the most obvious example but there's wildly different architecture all crammed together, like the huge causeway the goes over the Farron swamp, and structures literally coming out of the raw stone in Profaned Capital, Irithyll and Anor Londo, etc. We've run out of Undead and are burning the land itself to keep the flame linked.
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Played this game like 60 hours. I'm about to defeat the final boss. Just tonight, for the first time in the whole game, I summoned a player and their emotes had words like Hello and Thank you and sounded like it was voiced by that giant actor who played Ray Romano's big brother on Everybody Loves Raymond. What the gently caress. Please enlighten me!
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Feenix posted:Played this game like 60 hours. I'm about to defeat the final boss. Just tonight, for the first time in the whole game, I summoned a player and their emotes had words like Hello and Thank you and sounded like it was voiced by that giant actor who played Ray Romano's big brother on Everybody Loves Raymond. Trade some pickle pees and pump a rums to get sweet swag
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Vermain posted:Even a lot of the item descriptions - the mainstay of the piecemeal approach that DS1 took - are too loving vague to say anything about the plot aside from the broadest strokes possible. Like, here's what I've figured out about the backstory/plot: Wanted to point out some stuff about each of these, the heir to Lothric's king is actually Lorian, who is the eldest child and much like the eldest child of Gwyn was actually a really good warrior. The second son is a frail weak child who is more suited to a type of magic then physical battle, another similarity to the children of Gwyn. Oceiros isn't trying to produce a suitable heir, he's trying to become a Dragon and in his madness thinks his last child is also part dragon, or possibly had become a dragon already and had that last child. His wife left after this and is possibly Rosaria, either because she discovered what Oceiros was doing or the civil war made her leave. Farron Keep is not a kingdom at all, in fact it's a league of warriors who hold no allegiance to any kingdom and just go around fighting the Abyss. After they linked and then came back some of them are being tainted by the abyss/deep which may or may not be the same thing and thus the red eyed ones are being killed by the ones who are still sane, they aren't hollowing from what I understand. The Catacombs of Carthus are deeply misplaced, as are the ruins of Izalith, I think having them connected to Farron Keep is a bit of a trick, they're actually part of Yhorm's stuff and the Profaned Flame is the Flame of Chaos. Sulyvahn possibly worked under Gwyndolin for a time, hence why he has one blade that's Dark/Sorcery based. Also he's probably the head of the Cathedral of the Deep, with 3 Archdeacons beneath him and Aldrich as their target of worship. I'm guessing both he and Aldrich left Irythyll/Anor Londo and one joined the Cathedral of the Deep, which at the time was meant to protect against not work for said Deep, whilst the other found the Profaned Capitol which only had the jailors left. Sulyvahn returns with his brand new Greatsword meanwhile Aldrich becomes the horribly sludge monster and is forced to link the First Flame. Gwyndolin falls ill and Sulyvahn takes control of Anor Londo/Irythyll by force, instating his own Knights and the members of the Cathedral of the Deep in place of Gwyndolin's Darkmoon Blades and the Silver Knights. Anyone who is likely to overthrow him is sent out as an Outrider Knight or handed over to the Jailors. Whilst Gwyndolin and Yorshka are kept in the Old Cathedral and Sulyvahn rules from his new one, perhaps to keep up the illusion that he's ruling on Gwyndolin's behalf, hence his Darkmoon style sword. When the Lords of Cinder rise from their Graves he sends someone to pick up Aldrich and tries to feed Yorshka and Gwyndolin to him, but Yorshka escapes without him noticing. Finally Yhorm's story is interesting, his ancestor was a horrible tyrant (Wolnir?) and yet his people still asked for him to rule and protect them, so he does so and is a good king, he goes to link the flame out of choice but something goes weird, presumably it's to do with the Profaned Flame of Chaos hence all the fire thematics and stuff. It doesn't help that because each of the Lords of Cinder linked the fire they are all from different time periods, I'm pretty sure Ludleth is the latest one because he's directly to blame for all the weird stuff that's happening this time as he willed himself a Lord. Lothric/Lorian are probably the one directly before him. The Abyss Watchers considering who founded them are probably the earliest, Yhorm is probably from around DS2 time and Aldrich is after both of those. Although Pontiff Sulyvahn might be actually from the current time period and not from Aldrich's time at all, which would allow Aldrich to be before Yhorm instead of after. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 06:50 on May 17, 2016 |
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Mazerunner posted:Trade some pickle pees and pump a rums to get sweet swag Nice. Where do I get HELLLOOOOO and THAAAAANK YOUUUUU!
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The Profaned Flame is probably the Chaos Flame, but it's hard to say. Its Japanese name is the "Fire of Sin".
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RyokoTK posted:The best part is that the coal/umbral ash prompts don't appear if you don't have the items. For that matter, 'Heal the dark sigil' serves no purpose after you do it. There's no way to get more of the drat things if you've already borked that quest.
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pulp rag posted:So, my first character was a quality sword-and-board with some pyro spells to help me out. My second character was a big beeferino with high STR that used Greataxes (now a STR/FTH hybrid, since he's kinda my main file). My third character was a RAW rear end buffer. Anyone? I'm thinking of doing a lovely weapons run and using nothing but fist weapons, scythes, whips, and any other weapon type that does fairly poo poo damage. Y'know, excluding the Broken Straight Sword, since I want to actually beat the game in a timely manner. Or go with an archer build for shits and gigs.
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Lord_Magmar posted:whilst the other found the Profaned Capitol which only had the jailors left. The Jailers are in Irithyll Dungeon, though, where it's fairly clear Sulyvahn stuffed miscreants and experiments, imo. It's totally possible he stole them from the Profaned Capital, mind you, but my interpretation is that he used his existing resources to breach it and the Capital we see is basically almost entirely infested by Sully's troops. The Jailer brands are quite probably Chaos weapons, but they could as easily be obtained by Sulyvahn experimenting with poo poo of which man was not meant to wot, which is kind of his thing. I do like your hypothesis that Sulyvahn used to be a Darkmoon, though. It's not the one I personally am going with, but it has its charms. Edit: Oh poo poo, I didn't even think about Sulyvahn being from a more recent time than Aldrich. That's an extremely compelling proposition. Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 07:25 on May 17, 2016 |
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pulp rag posted:Anyone? Fast stuff. Try things like the Brigand Twindaggers, use thrusting swords and parrying, or go full bleed-heavy. Or some combination of these things.
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You know, I've used a bunch of weapons that specifically mention being able to sneak past shields and they sure as hell don't. Like, I'm testing out the man-serpent hatchet and the war cry skill says it pierces through shields to inflict direct damage. I just hit a guy with the shield of want several times and it did no damage.GreyjoyBastard posted:The Jailers are in Irithyll Dungeon, though, where it's fairly clear Sulyvahn stuffed miscreants and experiments, imo. The jailer's set specifically mentions that they are the only survivors of the Profaned Capital. Possibly because they are distantly related to the ones who caused the profaned flame to go up in the first place.
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