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Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

ZShakespeare posted:

Haha that guy is the worst even if thTHC ONLY YOU CAN READ THIS. YOU WILL BE REWARDED FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT CREATING DIVISION AMONGST THESE SO CALLED PROGRESSIVES DO NOT ALLOW THEM TO BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER IF THEY SHARE ANY MINOR DIFFERENCESblic bathroom, lol. Christ what an rear end in a top hat

If you are a card-carrying member of the Conservative Party of Canada then we have more than just "minor differences" impeding our cooperation

# ? May 16, 2016 23:42

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# ? May 15, 2024 05:50

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

You know what would make me respect pm selfie? If he just said, lol gently caress you guys I'm not impeding climate change policies and carbon reduction just so you dumb fucks can drive 90k pickup trucks

# ? May 16, 2016 23:43

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad!

Ahem

Went through the election thread to find something And I found these unfufilled promises

Shaaaaaaame.

# ? May 16, 2016 23:44

ZShakespeare: Jul 20, 2003; The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose!

looks like y'all need to bounce on dis boy's d

# ? May 16, 2016 23:46

Mad Hamish: Jun 15, 2008; WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.

Depends, is he as dreamy as the PM?

# ? May 16, 2016 23:57

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

I found out that a colleague of mine is a diehard fan of Harper and hates Trudeau because "he's too weak", "tries to make everyone happy", and "isn't qualified to run the country like Harper was". How do I even start responding to this :psyduck:

# ? May 17, 2016 00:24

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

so what's the OTTAWA INSIDER'S WORD on sophie gregoire? Is she dumber than avril lavigne?

# ? May 17, 2016 00:24

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

CLAM DOWN posted:

I found out that a colleague of mine is a diehard fan of Harper and hates Trudeau because "he's too weak", "tries to make everyone happy", and "isn't qualified to run the country like Harper was". How do I even start responding to this

well he's not wrong

at this point, there really isn't any leader more qualified than harper to run this dumpster fire

# ? May 17, 2016 00:26

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Agreed, immediately end disaster relief for the animals in Alberta before they grow dependent

# ? May 17, 2016 01:30

RBC: Nov 23, 2007; IM STILL SPENDING MONEY FROM 1888

THC posted:

Agreed, immediately end disaster relief for the animals in Alberta before they grow dependent

replace the first paragraph with $17 billion in oil subsidies dolled out to corporate welfare bums

# ? May 17, 2016 01:43

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

jm20 posted:

Are the CPC's supporting LGBTs yet? Not sure I understand how he could support a party that literally doesn't welcome his support.

Didn't they try to do some kind of "it gets better" video (or was that the Ontario PC's) that went over about as well as a wet fart?

# ? May 17, 2016 02:04

ZShakespeare: Jul 20, 2003; The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose!

CLAM DOWN posted:

I found out that a colleague of mine is a diehard fan of Harper and hates Trudeau because "he's too weak", "tries to make everyone happy", and "isn't qualified to run the country like Harper was". How do I even start responding to this

A good start would be to hide the body. I've had really good luck dumping them in the ocean although some of the feet have been washing up on shore. So far I've only been caught once but that's ok because I had my clean kit on me at the time. If you want I can give you a hand.

# ? May 17, 2016 03:22

Jordan7hm: Feb 17, 2011; Lipstick Apathy

bunnyofdoom posted:

Ahem

Went through the election thread to find something And I found these unfufilled promises

Shaaaaaaame.

Pretty sure I offered to do so after the election. Offer stands.

CLAM DOWN posted:

I found out that a colleague of mine is a diehard fan of Harper and hates Trudeau because "he's too weak", "tries to make everyone happy", and "isn't qualified to run the country like Harper was". How do I even start responding to this

That's why you don't talk politics or religion.

Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 05:33 on May 17, 2016

# ? May 17, 2016 05:29

Pixelante: Mar 16, 2006; You people will by God act like a team, or at least like people who know each other, or I'll incinerate the bunch of you here and now.

CLAM DOWN posted:

I found out that a colleague of mine is a diehard fan of Harper and hates Trudeau because "he's too weak", "tries to make everyone happy", and "isn't qualified to run the country like Harper was". How do I even start responding to this

They can't change your mind, you can't change theirs. Talk about weather. Actually no, that's not safe any more. Uh... sports? I've got a few FB friends whose poo poo I just unfollowed entirely. Stick to your own ideological hall of mirrors. It's less frustrating. Or learn to really like internet arguments!

# ? May 17, 2016 05:44

Hal_2005: Feb 23, 2007

THC posted:

Agreed, immediately end disaster relief for the animals in Alberta before they grow dependent

So when will the EI and transfer payments end to the Maritimes and Quebec ?

# ? May 17, 2016 06:12

JawKnee: Mar 24, 2007; You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

tell me you agree with the stupid bullshit espoused in that 'lesson in irony'

# ? May 17, 2016 06:23

Furnaceface: Oct 21, 2004

Hal_2005 posted:

So when will the EI and transfer payments end to the Maritimes and Quebec ?

Right after they stop giving corporate handouts to companies that pocket the gains in offshore accounts and refuse to invest anything back into the system.

# ? May 17, 2016 06:24

A Typical Goon: Feb 25, 2011

CLAM DOWN posted:

I found out that a colleague of mine is a diehard fan of Harper and hates Trudeau because "he's too weak", "tries to make everyone happy", and "isn't qualified to run the country like Harper was". How do I even start responding to this

I feel bad for you. Working with PT6A would be awful

# ? May 17, 2016 06:28

Furnaceface: Oct 21, 2004

A Typical Goon posted:

I feel bad for you. Working with PT6A would be awful

To be fair to PT6A, he did say Harper wasnt qualified to run the country any more.

# ? May 17, 2016 06:42

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Furnaceface posted:

To be fair to PT6A, he did say Harper wasnt qualified to run the country any more.

Also I'm mostly happy with Trudeau.

# ? May 17, 2016 06:50

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

Of course you'd be mostly happy with a piece of poo poo arrogant worm who's quite happy to sell weapons to tyrants.

Edit: gently caress it I need to just get comfortable with being part of the problem.

EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 12:20 on May 17, 2016

# ? May 17, 2016 12:16

Ron Paul Atreides: Apr 19, 2012; Uyghurs situation in Xinjiang? Just a police action, do not fret. Not ongoing genocide like in EVIL Canada.

I am definitely not a tankie.

CLAM DOWN posted:

I found out that a colleague of mine is a diehard fan of Harper and hates Trudeau because "he's too weak", "tries to make everyone happy", and "isn't qualified to run the country like Harper was". How do I even start responding to this

you colleague is a fascist. :sever:

# ? May 17, 2016 12:31

cheese sandwich: Feb 9, 2009

CLAM DOWN posted:

I found out that a colleague of mine is a diehard fan of Harper and hates Trudeau because "he's too weak", "tries to make everyone happy", and "isn't qualified to run the country like Harper was". How do I even start responding to this

I found out my uncle was one of these people the other night when he decided to enlighten me on how useless the census was (he defaced it and sent it back, we didn't have this information for ten years and we're fine! He pays taxes they don't need to know any more about him than that) among other lovely conservatisms

I can't really even argue with him because trying to engage him on anything just results in him shrugging and going like welp, you'll see!

# ? May 17, 2016 12:50

mik: Oct 16, 2003; oh

EvilJoven posted:

Of course you'd be mostly happy with a piece of poo poo arrogant worm who's quite happy to sell weapons to tyrants.

Edit: gently caress it I need to just get comfortable with being part of the problem.

Hey don't slag off the Arrogant Worms like that.

# ? May 17, 2016 12:51

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

Slightly Toasted posted:

I found out my uncle was one of these people the other night when he decided to enlighten me on how useless the census was (he defaced it and sent it back, we didn't have this information for ten years and we're fine! He pays taxes they don't need to know any more about him than that) among other lovely conservatisms

I can't really even argue with him because trying to engage him on anything just results in him shrugging and going like welp, you'll see!

Here's a fun historical reason why the census matters!

quote:

The story goes that during the First World War, Quebec had a very low rate of enlistment compared to English Canada. The effort to impose conscription there was very unpopular and nearly tore the country apart. It did tear the Liberal party apart from a while. So when WWII came around, the government said that only volunteers would serve overseas. No conscription. And they never did impose it.

Here's the thing though: in the past ten years, a historian I know discovered something amazing. He went through 620,000 attestation papers for Canadians in WW1. Soldiers filled these out when they 'attested' at a recruiting station. They contained vital details, such as a person's date of birth, next of kin, religion, occupation, etc., but not necessarily where they were from. Anyway, past historians just assumed that where people signed up was where they were from. That's what they assumed in WW1, too. But it turns out that in the case of Quebec, huge numbers of young men passed into Ontario and New Brunswick and Nova Scotia to sign up for the war, for various reasons, often because the regiments in those places had better reputations. Quebecers actually enlisted at a rate comparable to other provinces, they were just less likely to enlist in Quebec itself.

So here's the thing: the government of Canada based its policies in WWII - a life or death struggle against the Axis powers - based on a fallacious assumption about Quebec recruitment in WW1. And how did my friend discover this about Quebec recruitment in WW1? By comparing names on attestation papers to census of 1911 info about where people were actually from. And that's why we need census data: so that the government can make better decisions about social and political and economic policy.

# ? May 17, 2016 13:12

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

quote:

Good Tuesday morning to you.

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Back in school, no good ever came from skipping class. This week�s lesson? Not much good comes from skipping House either. Yesterday for the Liberals, a pop procedural test meant winning a vote by the skin of their teeth. The Conservatives and NDP joined forces to force a vote while too many Liberals were away from the House, leaving Speaker Geoff Regan cast the tie-breaking vote on a 139-139 count � for just the 11th time in Canadian history. Our Elizabeth Thompson has that story.

As for the Liberals� electoral reform committee motion, NDP Leader Tom Mulcair says he�s voting against that as well. NDP democratic reform critic Nathan Cullen hasn�t said he�ll voted against it, but has called for the Liberals to �commit to true cross-party collaboration, and give all parties a real seat at the table.�

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Environment and Climate Change Minister Catherine McKenna holds a town hall discussion in Vancouver to engage youth on clean growth and climate change.

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# ? May 17, 2016 13:28

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad!

Jordan7hm posted:

Pretty sure I offered to do so after the election. Offer stands.

Fair. We can set something over the long weekend maybe by pm. Also flakeloaf still hasn't chimes in

# ? May 17, 2016 15:03

InfiniteZero: Sep 11, 2004; PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT; College Slice

Dreylad posted:

Yesterday for the Liberals, a pop procedural test meant winning a vote by the skin of their teeth. The Conservatives and NDP joined forces to force a vote while too many Liberals were away from the House, leaving Speaker Geoff Regan cast the tie-breaking vote on a 139-139 count � for just the 11th time in Canadian history.

An important part of this story:

http://ipolitics.ca/2016/05/16/liberals-caught-short-on-key-bill-speaker-casts-rare-tie-breaking-vote/

Is that Doug Eyolfson, a Liberal MP from Winnipeg, had opposed the bill in question based on the fact that Trudeau made a point of saying that representing constituents was more important than toeing the party line and that it has the potential to gently caress over people in his constituency (which has the Winnipeg airport within it). Eyolfson also went on a media tear to congratulate himself and the PM for letting this happen.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wherry-eyolfson-vote-1.3556033

Liberal MP Doug Eyolfson says voters were skeptical last year when he claimed a Liberal government would allow its backbenchers greater freedom to vote as they saw fit.

"A lot of people said, 'I'll believe it when I see it,'" he says. "So now I can look people right in the eye and say, 'Believe it.'" [...]

"The prime minister had made it clear from the first day that as MPs, our first responsibility is to our constituents" - Eyolfson

Yesterday when push came to shove and his opposition actually meant something, he backed down and blamed the NDP and PCs.

While I understand that the PCs and NDP were definitely participating in gaming the system (by taking advantage of the Liberals being stupid as gently caress), maybe next time he might want to hesitate for just a moment before congratulating himself so much for his parliamentary bravery because he's likely to just fold if it actually means anything.

BELIEVE IT.

InfiniteZero fucked around with this message at 15:26 on May 17, 2016

# ? May 17, 2016 15:23

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

CLAM DOWN posted:

I found out that a colleague of mine is a diehard fan of Harper and hates Trudeau because "he's too weak", "tries to make everyone happy", and "isn't qualified to run the country like Harper was". How do I even start responding to this

I work with several right wingers, we chat politics. Ask them about their thoughts on specific issues, and supposed solutions, but be objective and not emotional about your pov. Politics isn't zero sum so you may find you agree on some positions as well. Talking politics can be :angel:

# ? May 17, 2016 15:30

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

I keep unblocking a facebook friend of mine who's a caricature of an AM radio host, only to block him again when he reminds me that he's completely incapable of having a discussion without resorting to name-calling and horrible fallacies. He's not a stupid man, but most of what he writes reads like time cube.

bunnyofdoom posted:

Fair. We can set something over the long weekend maybe by pm. Also flakeloaf still hasn't chimes in

Sure, I'm down. Pick a place and fire out some PMs.

# ? May 17, 2016 15:41

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; I've been here the whole time, and you're not my real Dad!

flakeloaf posted:

I keep unblocking a facebook friend of mine who's a caricature of an AM radio host, only to block him again when he reminds me that he's completely incapable of having a discussion without resorting to name-calling and horrible fallacies. He's not a stupid man, but most of what he writes reads like time cube.

Sure, I'm down. Pick a place and fire out some PMs.

Been there done that on the first one.

Pms away!

Also, hooray, the transgender protection act is out there, and no crazies have called me today

# ? May 17, 2016 16:06

Do it ironically: Jul 13, 2010; by Pragmatica

Transit ridership is down 5% in Calgary, so what does the city do, make it easier for people to access transit? More stops, later on fri/sat? Nah, we'll just increase user fees at the park and ride stations, because creating an even bigger barrier to transit use is obviously the answer

# ? May 17, 2016 16:25

Do it ironically: Jul 13, 2010; by Pragmatica

also the de grood trial started yesterday, he'll probably be found NCR and released in short order from some facility back into the world but the whole incident is disturbing

# ? May 17, 2016 16:32

Vintersorg: Mar 3, 2004; President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club

Social media is terrible right now, gently caress. When is it not though?

" You know I'm actually tired of people telling everyone what they should be ok with and what to accept and not to accept, so your telling me that 10 years ago or even 5 it was ok to think this is not right but if you think that today your a bigot?
I'm personally ok with a girl walking into my washroom lol but maybe I'm stubborn but I don't like how people are forcing things on us. I'm ok for gay rights but if I wasn't that's ok as well.
As for these bathrooms lets not get to crazy, it's only a couple hippie places that have it. No one is going to get raped."

"Forcing me to not be a piece of poo poo"

# ? May 17, 2016 16:39

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

It's all a slippery slope though, today you promise equal rights for transgendered people, tomorrow people are marrying goats and pedophiles flood the streets. Much better just to continue allowing discrimination.

DariusLikewise fucked around with this message at 16:52 on May 17, 2016

# ? May 17, 2016 16:46

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

So you guys are all fine with polygamy right

# ? May 17, 2016 16:48

Precambrian Video Games: Aug 19, 2002

DariusLikewise posted:

It's all a slippery slope though, today you promise equal rights for transgendered people, tomorrow people are marrying goats and pedophile flood the streets. Much better just to continue allowing discrimination.

Alberta have used some pedophiles to flood the streets of Fort McMurray.

# ? May 17, 2016 16:52

heehee: Sep 5, 2012; haha wow i cant believe how lucky we got to win

InfiniteZero posted:

An important part of this story:

http://ipolitics.ca/2016/05/16/liberals-caught-short-on-key-bill-speaker-casts-rare-tie-breaking-vote/

Is that Doug Eyolfson, a Liberal MP from Winnipeg, had opposed the bill in question based on the fact that Trudeau made a point of saying that representing constituents was more important than toeing the party line and that it has the potential to gently caress over people in his constituency (which has the Winnipeg airport within it). Eyolfson also went on a media tear to congratulate himself and the PM for letting this happen.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wherry-eyolfson-vote-1.3556033

Liberal MP Doug Eyolfson says voters were skeptical last year when he claimed a Liberal government would allow its backbenchers greater freedom to vote as they saw fit.

"A lot of people said, 'I'll believe it when I see it,'" he says. "So now I can look people right in the eye and say, 'Believe it.'" [...]

"The prime minister had made it clear from the first day that as MPs, our first responsibility is to our constituents" - Eyolfson

Yesterday when push came to shove and his opposition actually meant something, he backed down and blamed the NDP and PCs.

While I understand that the PCs and NDP were definitely participating in gaming the system (by taking advantage of the Liberals being stupid as gently caress), maybe next time he might want to hesitate for just a moment before congratulating himself so much for his parliamentary bravery because he's likely to just fold if it actually means anything.

BELIEVE IT.

Yea going along with a plan formed by the CPC and NDP and ignoring the fact that if they hadn't been "playing tricks" this never would've been close would've been a really smart thing for him to do

e: gently caress him for making his own choice actually

# ? May 17, 2016 16:57

Furnaceface: Oct 21, 2004

heeheex2 posted:

Yea going along with a plan formed by the CPC and NDP and ignoring the fact that if they hadn't been "playing tricks" this never would've been close would've been a really smart thing for him to do

e: gently caress him for making his own choice actually

He isnt saying that at all. He is saying this moron picked a really stupid example to toot his own horn since what he is bragging about didnt happen here.

Cultural Imperial posted:

So you guys are all fine with polygamy right

What the gently caress does that have to do with gender rights issues? Thats a religious debate.

Furnaceface fucked around with this message at 17:04 on May 17, 2016

# ? May 17, 2016 17:01

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# ? May 15, 2024 05:50

Heavy neutrino: Sep 16, 2007; You made a fine post for yourself. ...For a casualry, I suppose.

InfiniteZero posted:

Yesterday when push came to shove and his opposition actually meant something, he backed down and blamed the NDP and PCs.

While I understand that the PCs and NDP were definitely participating in gaming the system (by taking advantage of the Liberals being stupid as gently caress), maybe next time he might want to hesitate for just a moment before congratulating himself so much for his parliamentary bravery because he's likely to just fold if it actually means anything.

BELIEVE IT.

If you ever believed that the LPC would actually allow its members to actually defeat bills I honestly don't know what to say. I'm sure that LPC backbenchers are perfectly free to vote in the most politically advantageous way so long as the outcome remains what the party wants.

# ? May 17, 2016 17:01

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