Numismancer posted:

I'm sure you'll come to love our strategy of weaponized sadism, since its innocent precursor - weaponized boredom - got so much screaming and howling about lack of fairness and a dearth of self-esteem trophies for your whole class that it was all you lot could whine about for years.

That, then, was us being gentle and good citizens.

feedmegin posted:

Shouldn't you update your avatar at this point...?

evilweasel posted:

The entire north just collapsed and Goonswarm was pretty much the last remaining part of the old NC. It was reasonable at the time, just botched.

feedmegin posted:

Shouldn't you update your avatar at this point...?

Jazzzzz posted:

Isn't Vicodin just hydrocodone and Tylenol in the same pill? Did they up the dose of hydrocodone you're getting in it?

feedmegin posted:

Hmm, but we weren't part of the NC attack on the East. I'm sure I remember that whole thing being separate from and some time after the old NC falling to bits.

Either way, starting a war against Goonswarm by hitting its capital system, without any attempt at attrition at all, was an 'interesting' choice.

ullerrm posted:

Okay, serious talk. What the gently caress is with these loving pants ridiculous inconsistent PL/NC capital fits. Seems like 3/4 of them are significantly different (i.e. not just varying degrees of pimping) from each other. In order of death:

* HYDRA Apostle -- no capital capacitor mids, got neuted out instantly
* PL Revelation -- HAW -- Heavy injectors, double rep but triple heatsink, heavy neut
* PL Naglfar -- Not HAW -- Cheapo T1 guns / T2 tank fit, no option high; armor tank fit on a postpatch Nag = took less damage than most clownshoes
* PL Naglfar -- Not HAW -- 500MN MWD, no option high, but at least he has the right tank fit, and took 3x the damage of the above clown before he died
* PL Naglfar -- HAW -- Probably the best fit thus far, although capital core defense capacitor safeguard rigs seem questionable.
* PL Revelation -- Not HAW -- 4.7B X-type fit, no injectors, no option high
* NC Apostle -- Reactor control? Large (battleship-sized) capacitor battery? Local tank rigs? I mean, sure, you're trying to cram on 8 cap mods onto one hull, but this seems less than ideal
* PL Apostle -- pretty normal two-rep-one-transfer fit
* PL Apostle -- pretty normal three-rep fit
* NC Apostle -- Another weird NC one
* PL Apostle -- super weak cap regen, triple stacked EANMs
* NC Apostle -- Another weird NC one, this one crams NINE capital mods onto the hull with that RCU. Three cap reps, a cap transfer, two cap injectors, two cap reps, and the capital hull energizer.
* NC Apostle -- Yet another NC reactor control fit, but far fewer capital modules; it's actually only 2% over on grid with the RCU offlined. Waste of a perfectly good lowslot, honestly.
* PL Apostle -- Two empty highs, smartbombs/etc are clearly overrated
* PL Thanatos -- capital AB is weird, but okay, I can at least see where he was going with this one
* PL Revelation -- Not HAW -- no capital capacitor mods, but tbh, he was disconnected, so he'd have died anyways
* NC Apostle -- Yet another weird NC one
* PL Thanatos -- Mixed shield and armor tank
* PL Apostle -- Semi standard three rep fit

So, not only are they widely inconsistent, but the dreads who were dropped to blap hurricanes were predominantly not fitted with HAWs.

The NCDOT Apostle fit is probably the weirdest of this session -- they all have reactor controls fit. I'm trying to think of the bright side of it, and well, some of them have managed to successfully fit a metric buttload of capital modules onto one hull. (Others have it just vestigally -- i.e. one guy's only 2% over on grid without the RCU.) I think most of them are there because they're trying to fit the anti-DD hull energizer module to every Apostle... which makes no sense at a planning level, because who's gonna attempt to driveby a NC FAX in the North? It's not like Goons are throwing around supers (other than Zungen), and NC's blue to anyone else in the area with supers.

Like, I know that we're the Hivemind on Theorycraft Mountain in Goonlandia and we're total idiots who never do anything sensible, but we've been hearing for months that we're screwed because everyone else in the game is standardizing on the best capital fits and will be prepared... so what is this?

Numismancer posted:

Let's see, enemies declaring victory and leaving (TEST, other random garbage), enemies fighting each other instead of us (Snuff/Shadow Cartel, TISHU vs Culture), increased desperation from Horde as they can't decide between us being totally ineffective and begging for PL to save them (or now having PL beg to get bailed out from 'the next BR-5'), GSF and friends retaining the ability to flashform 3 fleets to facefuck overconfident bad guys with.

It's almost like we spelled out that we'd be executing a Fabian strategy and have done exactly that since the C02 backstab, and all what we've predicted is coming to pass.

Numismancer posted:

Super.Jesus posted:

They have no SRP thus can fit their stuff the way they want.(Badly)

jm20 posted:

How do you feel about turning Goons into BoB?

Also why were you always on me for being EO2.0 cause that never played out you see insert tilde character here. If you actually played the game you'd have known blackops under TheAdj was awful and full of failures post EO and no one wanted to join that flaming mess willingly.

Xolve posted:

We actually have SRP for Caps.

It's almost as if it were the functioning point of the alliance.

Xolve posted:

We actually have SRP for Caps.

It's almost as if it were the functioning point of the alliance.

jm20 posted:

How do you feel about turning Goons into BoB?

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

so you have srp that lets you fit really shittily?

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

so you have srp that lets you fit really shittily?

jm20 posted:

How do you feel about turning Goons into BoB?

Also why were you always on me for being EO2.0 cause that never played out you see insert tilde character here. If you actually played the game you'd have known blackops under TheAdj was awful and full of failures post EO and no one wanted to join that flaming mess willingly.

Glory of Arioch posted:

pretty good, we're better at being bob than bob was, and we didn't even need ccp dev spawned T2 BPOs to do it

evilweasel posted:

guyyyyyyyyyyyyyys you're too meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean you're the new bob

Krogort posted:

They are the global elite so it is probably a test to see if to are pro enough to fit your cap by yourself or else

dragonstalking posted:

Whoever said we were elite?

jm20 posted:

Maybe you're spacepoor, but isk hasn't been a problem since the supercap race started in 2010/2011.

dragonstalking posted:

Whoever said we were elite?

jm20 posted:

You've become what you fought against for years, perhaps out of necessity but perhaps you are not objective to see it. Perhaps it is tilde Evolution tidle

evilweasel posted:

oh no the shitlords attacking us think it is us who are the shitlords

Krogort posted:

About every snigg member that ever posted on reddit, a bad forum.

evilweasel posted:

oh no the shitlords attacking us think it is us who are the shitlords

jm20 posted:

I thought it was because you tried some lowsec crusade for isk not because you have hoovered up every pubbie that wants to rat in deklein or be a buffer alliance to goonswarm federation which is in no way related to goonswarm.

VideoGames posted:

Please simmer down friend.

Oodles posted:

I will buy you your first Exhumer if you probate paco. I might even bling fit it.

Carth Dookie posted:

I'll buy VG a boosting Orca and a character to fly it in exchange for banning him.

jm20 posted:

I thought it was because you tried some lowsec crusade for isk not because you have hoovered up every pubbie that wants to rat in deklein or be a buffer alliance to goonswarm federation which is in no way related to goonswarm.

jm20 posted:

How do you feel about turning Goons into BoB?

Helicon One posted:

I'm not sure this will ever not be funny.

What do people actually think BoB were that resembles modern goons/GSF/Teh Imperium/whateverthefuck in any way? Is this simply a 'BoB were bipedal carbon based life forms and so are goons ERGO' thing?

jm20 posted:

Speaking of Evolution, Lady Scarlett is taking your space

evilweasel posted:

every time someone tries to use "you're the new bob!!!!!" all it does is fill me with a warm fuzzy glow about how completely we dragged their name through the mud after we won

nobody ever knows what they mean by that statement, just that being bob is bad