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sassassin: Apr 3, 2010; by Azathoth

britishbornandbread posted:

Wales have the most expensive player in the world playing the best football of his life at Real Madrid, and Joe Allen.

That's a Joe Allen better than Portugal have ever had.

# ? May 16, 2016 22:08

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# ? Jun 4, 2024 18:28

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Wayne Rooney will perform at the Euros

# ? May 16, 2016 22:12

britishbornandbread: Jul 8, 2000; You'll stumble in my footsteps

Wayne Rooney had scored in every euros he has played in.

# ? May 16, 2016 22:15

Ewar Woowar: Feb 25, 2007

Wayne Rooney is not better than the options up front and is no where near disciplined enough to play in midfield. Putting him in the starting eleven is insane. It's also what Hodgson will do.

GK- Hart. Forster is not much of a step down but Hart has experience at this level and hasn't been a disaster for England at all.

RB- Clyne. Not as good going forward as Walker but very rarely makes mistakes and is an excellent defender.

LB- Rose/Bertrand. Neither are amazing but better than other options until Shaw is back.

CB- Smalling. England's best centre back.

CB- Cahill. Better than any of the other options.

DM- Dier. Been excellent all season

CM- Alli. Good attacking threat and works hard.

CM- Drinkwater. Knows how to play in a team that doesn't need possession and is in great form.

AM- Lallana. Flawed but has an insane work rate and is in good form.

ST- Vardy. In form, lightening quick, great work rate

ST- Kane. Best finisher in the league, amazing form.

England aren't going to out play the top sides so play counter attacking football. The players are there to do it.

# ? May 17, 2016 00:56

Ninpo: Aug 6, 2004; by FactsAreUseless

It feels dumb to discount Rooney's experience and leadership and the fact he's played well for United in recent weeks in midfield and has a good range of passing.

He shouldn't be starting up front given the options but just handwaving him off with a "he's poo poo" is becoming a TRP meme.

The preferred choices for the positions you could see Rooney in have all played a poo poo load of football this season and the Spurs players being lauded completely loving collapsed under pressure and fatigue and ended up finishing behind an Arsenal team everyone knows are poo poo, when it was completely within their control to push Leicester to the wire. Referees at the Euros will be far less forgiving than Premier League refs, there needs to be a mix of seniority and youth in the side for it to be balanced and make sure players like Alli don't lose their cool and get a straight red.

Wilshere's inclusion is ridiculous. I can understand Rashford being in the 26 for some experience, I very much doubt he'll be in the 23.

Ninpo fucked around with this message at 10:14 on May 17, 2016

# ? May 17, 2016 10:11

Ewar Woowar: Feb 25, 2007

Ninpo posted:

It feels dumb to discount Rooney's experience and leadership and the fact he's played well for United in recent weeks in midfield and has a good range of passing.

He shouldn't be starting up front given the options but just handwaving him off with a "he's poo poo" is becoming a TRP meme.

The preferred choices for the positions you could see Rooney in have all played a poo poo load of football this season and the Spurs players being lauded completely loving collapsed under pressure and fatigue and ended up finishing behind an Arsenal team everyone knows are poo poo, when it was completely within their control to push Leicester to the wire. Referees at the Euros will be far less forgiving than Premier League refs, there needs to be a mix of seniority and youth in the side for it to be balanced and make sure players like Alli don't lose their cool and get a straight red.

Wilshere's inclusion is ridiculous. I can understand Rashford being in the 26 for some experience, I very much doubt he'll be in the 23.

Agree in the Wilshere thing.

As for Rooney do you think he should be anywhere near the starting line up? I don't think he's poo poo and he should definitely be in the squad but there are much better options in the positions he'd likely play.

# ? May 17, 2016 10:56

britishbornandbread: Jul 8, 2000; You'll stumble in my footsteps

Good post Ewar.

# ? May 17, 2016 11:12

Breath Ray: Nov 19, 2010

We generally draw at least one minnow game so will finish the group on 5 points. Then Ali, Vardy and Walker will all be sent off at the knockout stage.

# ? May 17, 2016 11:45

britishbornandbread: Jul 8, 2000; You'll stumble in my footsteps

Just did the excel spreadsheet wallchart and had England losing to penalties to Portugal in the quarter finals. It would be ten years to the day it happened at the World Cup. Narrative.

# ? May 17, 2016 11:53

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britishbornandbread posted:

Just did the excel spreadsheet wallchart and had England losing to penalties to Portugal in the quarter finals. It would be ten years to the day it happened at the World Cup. Narrative.

Not just ten years. Ten years of hurt

# ? May 17, 2016 11:59

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Ninpo posted:

It feels dumb to discount Rooney's experience and leadership and the fact he's played well for United in recent weeks in midfield and has a good range of passing.

He shouldn't be starting up front given the options but just handwaving him off with a "he's poo poo" is becoming a TRP meme.

The preferred choices for the positions you could see Rooney in have all played a poo poo load of football this season and the Spurs players being lauded completely loving collapsed under pressure and fatigue and ended up finishing behind an Arsenal team everyone knows are poo poo, when it was completely within their control to push Leicester to the wire. Referees at the Euros will be far less forgiving than Premier League refs, there needs to be a mix of seniority and youth in the side for it to be balanced and make sure players like Alli don't lose their cool and get a straight red.

It's very important to look at the seasons form which is why Spurs players must not go: finished 3rd instead of second, mentally weak bitches who will cry. Also why Rooney must go: drops deep into midfield and slices the ball on the diagonal to the winger every single time and I'm not sure that the better players we could take have the mental resolve to handle getting frustrated and kicking out at someone when they've been playing poo poo.

# ? May 17, 2016 12:28

sassassin: Apr 3, 2010; by Azathoth

There are at least ten English midfielders in the Premier League better at the job than Rooney has been when playing there for United this season.

# ? May 17, 2016 12:40

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Rooney should prob be in the squad but def not starting.

I think it's a little silly not to take one of Defoe or Carol, but we cannot take everyone.

Just so long as that loving band gets nowhere near the stadiums I'll be happy.

# ? May 17, 2016 12:44

britishbornandbread: Jul 8, 2000; You'll stumble in my footsteps

sassassin posted:

There are at least ten English midfielders in the Premier League better at the job than Rooney has been when playing there for United this season.

That's definitely true. Wilshere being one.

# ? May 17, 2016 12:47

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# ? May 17, 2016 13:00

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Rooney should only play in qualifiers when he can bang in penalties against san marino and Slovenia imo

# ? May 17, 2016 13:49

Brendan Rodgers: Jun 11, 2014

50 years of hurt, never stopped me dreaming.

# ? May 17, 2016 14:02

Pissflaps: Oct 20, 2002; by VideoGames

The hurt will end soon.

# ? May 17, 2016 14:25

Andre Le Fuckface: Oct 4, 2008

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# ? May 17, 2016 14:26

JFairfax: Oct 23, 2008; by FactsAreUseless

Pissflaps posted:

The hurt will end soon.

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# ? May 17, 2016 14:38

Frankston: Jul 27, 2010

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# ? May 17, 2016 14:43

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# ? May 17, 2016 15:03

RideTheSpiral: Sep 18, 2005; College Slice

schweinsteiger is in the german euro squad lol

at least they have a rooney too

# ? May 17, 2016 15:08

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# ? May 17, 2016 16:22

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# ? May 17, 2016 17:13

ragle: Nov 1, 2009

TelekineticBear! posted:

Anyone saying Wilshere should be anywhere near the squad is to be frank a loving idiot, hes played one game of football all season, has got progressively shitter year after year because he peaked when he was 19 and has been embarrassing himself ever since. Hes a scummy entitled prick who has fluked his way into the position hes in and if he played for a real football team he would be warming the physio table for a lower half team and we'd thankfully never have to his name or say his terrible performances again

it's the opposite
class is permanent, a half-fit Wilshere is a better player than Drinkwater and typical England dross

# ? May 17, 2016 17:29

blue footed boobie: Sep 14, 2012; UEFA SUPREMACY

ragle posted:

it's the opposite
class is permanent, a half-fit Wilshere is a better player than Drinkwater and typical England dross

Source your quotes.

# ? May 17, 2016 17:31

ragle: Nov 1, 2009

blue footed boobie posted:

Source your quotes.

stfu

# ? May 17, 2016 17:32

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Just watched the video compilation of all Wilshere's touches vs. St Albans u-18 reserves hosted over at /r/gunners and I have to say he looked well class and needs to be on the plane, said the diabetic computer man from his IT office in Florida

# ? May 17, 2016 17:36

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ragle posted:

it's the opposite
class is permanent, a half-fit Wilshere is a better player than Drinkwater and typical England dross

That would be great if he could even get to half fit.

# ? May 17, 2016 17:54

blue footed boobie: Sep 14, 2012; UEFA SUPREMACY

I feel like I already made this exact post itt, but Wilshere is a decent player. For some reason, his reputation has grown since he got injured, and people only seem to remember him bossing Barcelona at like 18 or whatever. He was never really able to play like that again, and wasn't even starting for Arsenal the last time he was healthy. He's also a weird player who doesn't fit into a lot of systems. He should probably start for England if he is ever able to string together a decent run of games, but he doesn't have any business being at the euros this year.

# ? May 17, 2016 19:14