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LuciferMorningstar posted:I doubt anyone would take it? Unless it were really obviously OP. With Anarchist, I've got basically infinite armor. With Grinder, infinite health. And deployables. What does Dozer armor bring to the table? if it brought the dozer voice with it I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
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Not gonna lie. I'd play the poo poo out of Dozer armor with LMGs.
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LuciferMorningstar posted:I doubt anyone would take it? Unless it were really obviously OP. With Anarchist, I've got basically infinite armor. With Grinder, infinite health. And deployables. What does Dozer armor bring to the table? Hobold posted:Not gonna lie. I'd play the poo poo out of Dozer armor with LMGs. The answer appears to be "akimbo KSPs"
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LuciferMorningstar posted:I doubt anyone would take it? Unless it were really obviously OP. With Anarchist, I've got basically infinite armor. With Grinder, infinite health. And deployables. What does Dozer armor bring to the table? Assuming there could be a theoretical difficulty higher than Deathwish, depending on how hard cops hit a reverse dodge that is just the thickest armor that could take sniperfire, basic cop flak fire, dozer and most special fire and keep shooting longer than other players speaks for itself. Some people just like being the biggest motherfucker on the field using the biggest guns. Crabtree fucked around with this message at 04:50 on May 17, 2016 |
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Crabtree posted:Assuming there could be a theoretical difficulty higher than Deathwish, depending on how hard cops hit a reverse dodge that is just the thickest armor that could take sniperfire, basic cop flak fire, dozer and most special fire and keep shooting longer than other players speaks for itself. Some people just like being the biggest motherfucker on the field using the biggest guns. From the recent Q&A with Jules: quote:new difficulty beyond dw? no, most likely is new difficulty between OVK & DW So probably not.
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It is a good decision to try finding something between overkill and DW because the former is becoming a joke while the latter is still "hide in a closet until fade and then run for it, but don't let skulldozers get in."
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FAUXTON posted:the latter is still "hide in a closet until fade and then run for it, but don't let skulldozers get in." It actually is not.
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Not everyone is as experienced in the fine art of cop slaughter as others.
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Crabtree posted:Would Dozer armor for players be fun now if it shredded and needed armor bags to refil it back to full iron man glory? It was an old idea we sort of kicked around back during the first thread for this game, but when the Q&A twitch stream talked about it, I don't know if I'd want extra heavy armor or not. I mean, it'd be nice for the armor bag to have a loving use in game, but just for that? Should have to be an asset bag to re-gear and not a deployable imo. All maps with escape driver could get it.
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So im having a hard time determining what skills work with the Minigun and which ones dont. Im guessing the majority of things in the Oppressor tree in technician are lmg, smg, and auto rifle only. Basically i need info for a really good Minigun build.
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hey INH go pitch your Gensec on Overkill mod to ... uh, Overkill. Basically that fits right between Ovk and DW and is probably exactly what they're looking for, inasmuch as it requires almost no new assets on their part!  but also it's a good mod and anyone interested in stepping up to DW should try it if they are unwilling to have a trial by deathwish fire known as "wait, it spawns how many saiga dozers at once?"
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FAUXTON posted:It is a good decision to try finding something between overkill and DW because the former is becoming a joke while the latter is still "hide in a closet until fade and then run for it, but don't let skulldozers get in." I just pubbed DW breakout with a firetrap/relentless/stockholm build with anarchist perk deck. It was a challenge with such a limited build but quite fun. clockworkjoe fucked around with this message at 06:59 on May 17, 2016 |
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Talkc posted:So im having a hard time determining what skills work with the Minigun and which ones dont. Im guessing the majority of things in the Oppressor tree in technician are lmg, smg, and auto rifle only. The mastermind(?) skills that boost accuracy/stab with all guns, ammo master or w/e its called, and aced bullet storm 
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Talkc posted:So im having a hard time determining what skills work with the Minigun and which ones dont. Im guessing the majority of things in the Oppressor tree in technician are lmg, smg, and auto rifle only. You should probably grab ammo bags. IIRC, pickup rate on the Minigun is really bad right now. Any skills that buff weapon stability/accuracy would be good, but I think the Minigun is in a category of its own (read: not an assault rifle or LMG). You should also probably take Bloodlust aced with it, to speed up reloads.
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Coming back to Payday 2 after a bit of a break due to real life. Reinstalling mods So far I have: BLT Pocohud Goonmod http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14867 What other mods do I need?
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Lyrai posted:http://forums.lastbullet.net/mydownloads.php?action=view_down&did=14867 thank you Other mods? Lobby Player Info is pretty useful, if only as a way to see if you or your friends are bringing the right perk deck to a heist. And there's an extra skill builds mod that's really useful for dicking around with gimmick builds in the skill beta.
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Is it modchat time? More Weapon Stats because obsessing over stats is the proper way to play Drag & Drop Inventory because organizing guns is a pain otherwise Bag Contour allows you to color bags by weight and includes a manual override so you can set specific bags to specific colors if you so wish. Never mix up thermal drills and loot bags again! Bodybag contours also disappear when the alarm goes off. Enhanced Hitmarkers is my favorite crutch, personally Loose Ammo Contours because hunting for crossbow bolts is suffering Flashing Swan Song I can't get enough Contour mods Everyone already knows how nice lobby player info is. I like BuildDB but I'm pretty sure it's not updated for the skill beta. Having all your gimmick builds two clicks away is really great. Dr Cheeto fucked around with this message at 11:42 on May 17, 2016 |
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Lyrai posted:Coming back to Payday 2 after a bit of a break due to real life. Reinstalling mods http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3751994&pagenumber=150#post459335503 All of these.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Is it modchat time? Echoing the use of all of these (although I've never used drag and drop, that sounds loving sweet). Plus Goonmod and Pocohud. That should get you all set for QoL stuff. Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 18:10 on May 17, 2016 |
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Let's look at the steam forums, shall we? New thread by user Big Boss Kai: quote:A warning to the developers regarding the PD2 Steam market. New thread by user IT'S CALLED AMERICA: quote:My god, how can people stand Sydney? And the other females. (Special snowflakes) Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 18:20 on May 17, 2016 |
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PantsOptional posted:Is it just me or are Sydney's voice lines really quiet? My sound is kind of weird so when Sydney is more than a few feet away, her voice just sounds like angry squeaking and it's adorable. 
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Discendo Vox posted:Let's look at the steam forums, shall we? No, lets not.
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I was reading this article about games that had their steam review score change dramatically after release, and I thought for sure Payday 2 would be on their with all the sound and fury kicked up by the steam forums and reddit during the black market update. It wasn't even mentioned in passing though, which I found surprising. I checked the reviews on the store page and got to see first hand the power of reddit's review bombs: Overall: 75% of the 205,337 user reviews for this game are positive Recent: 81% of the 5,255 user reviews in the last 30 days are positive They sure did have a lasting impact.
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Discendo Vox posted:Let's look at the steam forums, shall we? It's not written eloquently but he's not exactly wrong with the points he brings up about the Payday 2 market. If you wanted to link dumb threads I'm surprised you didn't link the one about Sydney being trans.
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UnknownMercenary posted:It's not written eloquently but he's not exactly wrong with the points he brings up about the Payday 2 market. If you wanted to link dumb threads I'm surprised you didn't link the one about Sydney being trans. Is the market hold he's talking about just the one that applies to all market transactions if you don't use the mobile app to authenticate or is there something specific to PD2? Also, Sydney being trans? Is this just a rehash of that "WHY DOESN'T CLOVER LOOK LIKE MEGAN FOX gently caress YOU OVERKILL" argument?
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UnknownMercenary posted:It's not written eloquently but he's not exactly wrong with the points he brings up about the Payday 2 market. If you wanted to link dumb threads I'm surprised you didn't link the one about Sydney being trans. I just grabbed the top two at the time I posted. Feel free to link this trans one, though, it sounds channerific! As far as I can tell, none of Kai's points are particularly meaningful. In general, he's arguing the opposite of the usual complaint about microtransactions- he wants skins to have ingame benefits so that there's arbitrage over them indefinitely, despite all the other harms that would cause. 1. The market hold is there to prevent fraud and cybercrime. He's massively overstating the item depreciation rate. The poster seems to think that there's a payday 2-specific 7 day hold independent of the authenticator restriction, but I have no reason to believe this is the case. 2. The stat boost thing makes no sense and is basically an excuse to use the word "backstab" a lot. 3. Complaining that Legendary skins aren't "balanced", i.e. aren't superior, and that this harms the market. This is an especially weird claim to make, given how immobile the legendary market already is. The model changes and rarity functions of legendary skins are already making it relatively hard to sell them on the market. 4. Complaining about skin bugs. No specifics given (he gives some later on, most of them aren't actually bugs, he just doesn't like how they look. In particular, he acts as if Overkill has the same resources as Valve for this sort of thing. Geight posted:Having a trans heister would be unironically cool as heck, I don't care what the steam forums has to say about it They should just casually mention that one of the current heisters is trans- preferably Dallas or Chains, the resident hotties.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Is it modchat time? Quoting so I never lose this.
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Geight posted:Having a trans heister would be unironically cool as heck, I don't care what the steam forums has to say about it
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Discendo Vox posted:New thread by user IT'S CALLED AMERICA: I'm confused why a fascist misogynist would play a game where you kill fascist misogynists.
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Discendo Vox posted:I just grabbed the top two at the time I posted. Feel free to link this trans one, though, it sounds channerific! quote:As far as I can tell, none of Kai's points are particularly meaningful. In general, he's arguing the opposite of the usual complaint about microtransactions- he wants skins to have ingame benefits so that there's arbitrage over them indefinitely, despite all the other harms that would cause. 1. It's the generic 7 day trading *and* marketing hold that most Steam items have. It's not unique to Payday 2 but he's arguing to have the looser restrictions that CSGO items have, where they are marketable immediately but have 7 day trade holds. The rapid value depreciation only occurs for the commons and uncommons; they'll drop pretty fast within a couple of weeks. Combined with how often they drop, it's pretty hard to make a return on them if you rolled something terrible from a safe. I think adding tradeup contracts from CSGO would be a better fix, personally, although I would not mind a loosening of restrictions. For rares and epics, because of how much less often they drop, though, they will retain value longer. 2. There's no way to win here. Stat boosts were clearly a major issue, and any sane person will tell you that having them as free drops is much better. However he is right that people who paid more for them got the short end of the stick even if they're in the minority. Stat boost skins also have insanely inflated market value because they are technically rarer drops, but they also don't have actual value because the boosts are free drops and you can essentially change them at will unless you have a legendary skin. Almost nobody buys the drat stat boost skins anymore anyway; they are really hard to sell once you're past the "whales will buy anything" period of a new safe dropping. I'm just surprised they haven't rolled out with Stat-Trak yet since that's been floated as a replacement before, not just by the community but by Overkill developers too. 3. It's more that these particular legendaries have really bad stats that are worse than a modded version of the gun; not exactly asking for pay to win when they want an unmoddable gun to have roughly the same stats you can achieve normally. I didn't notice anything particularly egregious with any weapon except the Alamo Dallas, which almost the same as an unmodded Kobus 90: it's got the stats of one without any barrel or barrel extension so it has horrible accuracy and stability. I've been told the Hungry Wolf and Santa's Slayers don't have great stats either but looking at 'em they didn't seem that bad. I don't mod my LMGs for 39.9 damage either, so meh. 4. Yes it is not a bug, but it is an issue with certain skins, especially ones from the first few sets. Anything from Bodhi's safe onward usually does not have this issue, but I've talked about it at length with Cheeto. It's where changing the mods on any gun basically makes it lose its skin design. This doesn't affect all skins, just the rarer and more expensive ones. See: R93 "Death From Above" with the Wooden Body, as the skin is designed for, and with the base body.   CAR-4 Safecrasher as it's designed (with horrible mod attachments) and an optimally modded CAR-4 with a Safecrasher skin attached.   KSG Raging Goat has no goat on it if you put on a short barrel  The tally marks and Swedish on the Commando Howl are only present on the default and crappy Commando-specific stock; if you put on any other they are gone.  I'm not going to buy a Grenade Repellent to prove a point, but I've seen what it looks like modded up. It comes with the default body as part of its design with a bright red color. Adding the wooden body makes it a pukey flesh color.  I'm surprised he didn't bring up skins where you cannot see the design at all as a point of contention. Case in point, the Mosconi Bullet Bear Gun where at no point can you actually see the bear on the gun. You do not lift the gun up far enough in the inspect animation/the bear on the gun is too far away so you can't see it. And of course, if you chop off the stock (like you should with a Mosconi) the bear decal is just gone entirely anyway. 
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So I'm really enjoying this, but being Bad˜ at FPS games, I just kind of want to stomp around with a shotgun and do objectives, so I need some survivability. Recommendations? I'm not necessarily opposed to having to get a perk deck or something if there's a completely set and forget stupid build.
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Orv posted:So I'm really enjoying this, but being Bad˜ at FPS games, I just kind of want to stomp around with a shotgun and do objectives, so I need some survivability. Recommendations? I'm not necessarily opposed to having to get a perk deck or something if there's a completely set and forget stupid build. Beta or non beta skill load out?
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Drewjitsu posted:Beta or non beta skill load out? Oh right sorry, beta.
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