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That target is also very flexible depending on the budget itself and how the percentage the government extracts form operations. One thing the cheap Ruble is helping the Russian government in certain ways since the government pays salaries in rubles but gets paid in dollars. Also, other estimates I have seen range closer to around $65 dollars a barrel, As for the Russians running out of money, it is pretty unlikely due to the fact the government still has plenty of room to raise taxes and Russian Central bank still has plenty of reserves. The actual budgetary reserves have been hit but it is one of multiple funds the Russian government manages, sort of like how some state governments keep buffer funds when revenues are lower. Push comes to shove, the Russian Central Bank could just hand the government a loan until oil prices stabilize. Also, I guess it should be also mentioned that oil prices are starting to stabilize around fifty a barrel, which means the government will still be in the red but the deficit is going to be more manageable. edit http://www.reuters.com/article/russia-economy-budget-rule-idUSL5N17L1BE The Russian government itself is saying it is looking at $40 and $50 a barrel, which maybe is too low but certainly there is a big different there. --------------------- As for Russian attitudes, I do think there are a fair amount of people in Moscow/St. Petersburg unhappy with the current circumstance, but at the same time there doesn't seem any consensus about getting rid of Putin because there literally isn't anyone to replace him with. Part of this due to the fact there is little love between liberal and left opposition, liberals in Russia tend more to hard right economically and rarely see eye to eye with the rest of the population. Then there is the rest of the country who backs Putin far more fully. Part of this state propaganda and part of it is just that people in the countryside really despise the Moscow opposition and has no desire to see them in power. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 20:53 on May 15, 2016 |
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katlington posted:Is ukraine really unsafe for gay people or something? Seems pretty bad even by EE standards, but laughably hypocritical for Russia to be calling them out for it. AceRimmer fucked around with this message at 03:19 on May 16, 2016 |
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Why yes, I'd love to come to work on saturday. I'm sure it has nothing to do with an anti-government march planned on the same day. Just an unfortunate coincidence, yup 
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grate deceiver posted:Why yes, I'd love to come to work on saturday. I'm sure it has nothing to do with an anti-government march planned on the same day. Just an unfortunate coincidence, yup Taking a page from ye Chinese playbook.
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katlington posted:http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-15/eurovision-2016-russian-officials-bash-ukraine-win/7416328
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kalstrams posted:Nowhere it is safe for Fixed that for you.
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Paladinus posted:Fixed that for you. 
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grate deceiver posted:Why yes, I'd love to come to work on saturday. I'm sure it has nothing to do with an anti-government march planned on the same day. Just an unfortunate coincidence, yup That depends on what you do for a living
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Nitrox posted:That depends on what you do for a living Most likely they're a government empleoyee, as they are the ones who's going to work this Saturday. http://polska.newsweek.pl/beata-kempa-zadecydowala-urzednicy-przyjda-do-pracy-w-sobote-4-czerwca,artykuly,385510,1.html
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kalstrams posted:That's General Shevchenko, chief of ground vehicle department at their MoD. man his career really went down under after leaving Chelsea
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Following our earlier email exchange with the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, where we caught them plagiarising Livejournal they've now sent us one final response:quote:Dear Mr. Higgins, To which I've replied quote:Dear Sir/Madam,
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Send them periodic letters to check up on them. "Hi, haven't heard from you in a bit, just checking in to see if you're ok." "Have a nice weekend? Weather was rubbish here again." "How are you doing over there? I miss our chats."
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This is going to make the next time they start attacking you in the press all the sweeter.
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I just spent 2 hours arguing about MH17 with a "far left" friend of mine. It is obviously a CIA plot to discredit Russia, at the same time the Odessa massacre was a direct attack by Ukraine Neo Nazis against freedom loving peaceful protesters.
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Have you explained that Putin and Russia are not leftist? And that as a hard leftist he would be sent to a prison ran by an oligarch? Try mentioning that most powerful Russians are currently making GBS threads up London in their giant 2nd, 3rd and 4th homes plus yacht.
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Discendo Vox posted:This is going to make the next time they start attacking you in the press all the sweeter. Well they mentioned us again a couple of weeks ago quote:The BBC film and the Bellingcat report This is the best bit quote:Everyone is waiting for a real investigation. We insist that it must proceed from verified facts and materials from reliable, foolproof sources – specifically, not amateur snapshots from social media sites. What we need is thoroughly checked materials providing reliable information from meticulously identified sources. This just after they sent us a plagiarised blog post for their MH17 evidence.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Have you explained that Putin and Russia are not leftist? And that as a hard leftist he would be sent to a prison ran by an oligarch? Try mentioning that most powerful Russians are currently making GBS threads up London in their giant 2nd, 3rd and 4th homes plus yacht. Claimed political alignment has nothing to do with believing in conspiracy theories and more to do with being a stubborn contrarian.
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Sandweed posted:I just spent 2 hours arguing about MH17 with a "far left" friend of mine. It is obviously a CIA plot to discredit Russia, at the same time the Odessa massacre was a direct attack by Ukraine Neo Nazis against freedom loving peaceful protesters. What do you think happened in Odessa on May 2 2014?
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Bloodshit posted:What do you think happened in Odessa on May 2 2014? It's really funny how you keep buying an account. or is someone paying for it!?  As far as the trade union house fire, protesters from both sides were having a petrol bomb fight, some pro-Russians decided to throw Molotov's from the roof of the building. Some pro- Ukrainians decide to throw Molotov's at the building. It was a fight where one side chose a bad position, that's all. Sad that people died.
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Here is a video covering the events from beginning to end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9AMjLBIliw At 0:30, I see the first Molotov cocktail being thrown at the House of Trade Unions by the paramilitaries. After the tents of the protesters are burned down, they move on to the building itself. Can you point to the part in the video where "both sides" are having a "petrol bomb fight"? Or when the anti-austerity trade union activists (or "pro-Russians" as you call them) throw Molotovs from the roof of the building? Thanks. Brown Moses, I'd love to hear your input in this QCS thread I made about my recent bans: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3776500 I'd especially love to hear your thoughts on that Atlantic Council article, which not once mentioned the fact that the Azov batallion is a Neo Nazi paramilitary organization whose leader openly expresses admiration for Adolf Hitler. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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kalstrams posted:Thing worth keeping in mind, though, is that you are (iirc) in the second richest city in Russia, which is often referred to by Russians everywhere as city of culture. Difference between St. Petersburg/Moscow and pretty much everything else in Russia is enormous. Actually Xerxes17's post accurately describes Russians' attitudes towards this government and all previous ones, not sure why you'd think people outside the two capitals are less apathetic. If anything severe skepticism towards any proactivity gets more common as you move further away. people always say Russia is different ouside of those two cities, and I always say it's bullshit. Maybe in Soviet times, but what's so different nowadays? Same ikeas same metros everywhere, same lovely education, same horrible old and newly built bedroom districts. People from elswhere don't call SPB the cultural capital btw, unironically at least, lol
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loga mira posted:Actually Xerxes17's post accurately describes Russians' attitudes towards this government and all previous ones, not sure why you'd think people outside the two capitals are less apathetic. If anything severe skepticism towards any proactivity gets more common as you move further away. people always say Russia is different ouside of those two cities, and I always say it's bullshit. Maybe in Soviet times, but what's so different nowadays? Same ikeas same metros everywhere, same lovely education, same horrible old and newly built bedroom districts.
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kalstrams posted:Actually, I meant that situation outside capitals is worse, not better. And Moscow/St. Petersburg are very different from rest of Russia, but hey, maybe everyone but you is an idiot. Talking to older people could help figure out the city of culture bit, it's just the Moscow with it's rivalry that likes snidely ironic 'city of culture' when 20-year olds argue inbetween themselves which of the two cities has more apparent drug addicts.
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kalstrams posted:Actually, I meant that situation outside capitals is worse, not better. And Moscow/St. Petersburg are very different from rest of Russia, but hey, maybe everyone but you is an idiot. Talking to older people could help figure out the city of culture bit, it's just the Moscow with it's rivalry that likes snidely ironic 'city of culture' when 20-year olds argue inbetween themselves which of the two cities has more apparent drug addicts. You misunderstood but whatever. I don't have anyone to talk to right now about this but you, so explain to me the "city of culture". I see it as a cliche that lazy journalists and officials use, and suspect the trope was created in Soviet times to alleviate the loss of status, am I wrong? I am in currently in this great Russian elsewhere and there is definitely culture, and people like museum workers and culturologists usually react negatively to any assertion of superiority from their colleagues from SPB. Nitrox posted:The rest of the country are peasants, figuratively speaking. hey now
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Attitudes like that is partly why Russian opposition politicians never win. (And they are even more condescending towards Ukrainians). Edit: reminds me of how when there was that plane crash near Rostov-on-Don people online were saying how it was a "rural area", never mind it's a city of over a million people and close to the previously densely populated Donbass region of Ukraine...
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Nitrox posted:Not sure where I've seen this info, but isn't something like half of Russia's middle class lives in Moscow/St Peter? The rest of the country are peasants, figuratively speaking. I personally haven't seen anything to disprove that, and last time I went to Russia was before oil price collapse. loga mira posted:You misunderstood but whatever. I don't have anyone to talk to right now about this but you, so explain to me the "city of culture". I see it as a cliche that lazy journalists and officials use, and suspect the trope was created in Soviet times to alleviate the loss of status, am I wrong? I am in currently in this great Russian elsewhere and there is definitely culture, and people like museum workers and culturologists usually react negatively to any assertion of superiority from their colleagues from SPB.
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See we can have a conversation without being jerks to each other. As the other guy said we're basically completely disillusioned at this point and nobody believes they can make a change in anything. Then you posted the enormous difference meme and I assumed you meant that Russians elsewhere think everything is perfect and works as it should. I just don't like when Russians are painted as these ultra-nationalist zombies with no critical thinking, which really couldn't be further from thruth. Political fatalism is how I'd describe it. Obviously everyones inclined to poo poo on us because of the regime loving around.
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loga mira posted:See we can have a conversation without being jerks to each other. As the other guy said we're basically completely disillusioned at this point and nobody believes they can make a change in anything. Then you posted the enormous difference meme and I assumed you meant that Russians elsewhere think everything is perfect and works as it should. I just don't like when Russians are painted as these ultra-nationalist zombies with no critical thinking, which really couldn't be further from thruth. Political fatalism is how I'd describe it. Obviously everyones inclined to poo poo on us because of the regime loving around.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:So Putins high approval ratings are lies?
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People would love Putin anywhere, let's be real here. His image is very attractive, no surprise he has admirers even in hugely russophobic countries like Poland. Poles would vote for a Polish Putin.
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Imo it's more that there's no alternative. People don't like what they have but then when it comes to voting they either draw a blank or think they'd be even worse off under some random oligarch. Not that Putin doesn't specifically do everything in his power not to have valid competition.
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No that's not right, and again insulting. People love Putin and vote for him because he says all the right things, and plays the kind, benevolent Czar surrounded by incompetent boyars role extremely well.
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Why Russians support Putin. GDP:  Life expectancy:  Russians remember perfectly well that the last time they had a "democratic" president friendly to the United States and the IMF, over 80% of the population was living in extreme poverty, unable to afford basic medicine. http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2007/04/25/the-legacy-of-boris-yeltsin/ quote:"Between 1992 and 1994, the rise in the death rate in Russia was so dramatic that Western demographers did not believe the figures. The toll from murder, suicide, heart attacks and accidents gave Russia the death rate of a country at war; Western and Russian demographers now agree that between 1992 and 2000, the number of “surplus deaths” in Russia–deaths that cannot be explained on the basis of previous trends–was between five and six million persons."
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I've said it a few times now; if you haven't experienced the effects of a state with near-universal state control of the media, it's hard to understand its effects on the civic consciousness.
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