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Comstar posted:Looks like the Liberals are hitting the panic button and are doing everything they can to get the QLD and to lesser extent NSW vote - if they can hang on there, they think they'll win. The liberals are going to win. If QLD doesn't go red it's all over.
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# ? May 19, 2016 10:48 |
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Death to the SDA.quote:Hamburgled: McDonald's, Coles, Woolworths workers lose in union pay deals e: f,b
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# ? May 19, 2016 10:48 |
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I should really have a closer look at my contract, I think the shoppies were in charge of it and it's kind of odd.
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:00 |
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gay picnic defence posted:Also gently caress Di Natale, you got to be smarter than that at his level. A lot of peoples' well-being depends on the Greens getting a decent chunk of the vote to block some of the shittier policies proposed by the major parties and they can't afford the Greens to be loving up simple poo poo like that. All parties are equally guilty of this, but it's amazingly dumb. Given the amount of "preparation" I was given to understand from the last 8 months at least, you'd think he'd have ordered everyone to get their house in order. Anidav posted:The liberals are going to win. If QLD doesn't go red it's all over. Put your life savings on it and show us how it's done, genius.
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:08 |
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I'm glad Mad As Hell came back, I was under the impression it had been cancelled.
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:13 |
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ewe2 posted:you'd think he'd have ordered everyone to get their house in order. Do as I say, not as I do.
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:29 |
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The AFP are raiding Conroy and Clare's offices for embarrassing Malcolm with the NBN cost blowout leaks
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:32 |
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:36 |
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http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/may/19/australian-federal-police-raid-labor-party-offices-in-melbournequote:Australian Federal Police raid Labor party offices over alleged NBN leaks They all but confirm it's because someone embarrassed Turdball.
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:41 |
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thatbastardken posted:He declared the property twice and paid the au pairs above minimum wage, really not sure what the deal is. Quoting this because I too dont see what the deal is.
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:42 |
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gay picnic defence posted:Also gently caress Di Natale, you got to be smarter than that at his level. A lot of peoples' well-being depends on the Greens getting a decent chunk of the vote to block some of the shittier policies proposed by the major parties and they can't afford the Greens to be loving up simple poo poo like that. ewe2 posted:All parties are equally guilty of this, but it's amazingly dumb. Given the amount of "preparation" I was given to understand from the last 8 months at least, you'd think he'd have ordered everyone to get their house in order. Yeah, I got to agree here. I'd still much rather have Di Natale in office than anyone in LNP or ALP, but this makes me mad that he'd leave that kind of an opening when he's so high on the Greens totem pole. Being better than the average politician is not a high bar to clear at all. Even if there's no corrupt motive at all, just a simple mistake, or making himself look bad by sticking too closely to the bare technicalities, I really think the Greens should hold themselves to higher standards to set an example. If we were happy to jump all over that Labor MP for making such a big declaration "mistake" it would make us look pretty drat stupid and hypocritical to suddenly look the other way for Di Natale just cause we like him more. I don't know if I'd want him to resign necessarily... no matter whether he did or not, I think the exact same amount of damage would be done and most people would've already made up their minds on how this affects their view of the Greens. It just makes me really mad that it has to be dealt with at all in the first place. Scotty better never break my heart.
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:48 |
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so i clicked on this thread for some reasonTF2 HAT MINING RIG posted:I'm glad Mad As Hell came back, I was under the impression it had been cancelled. glad i did
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:56 |
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Ler posted:Quoting this because I too dont see what the deal is. Am I just having a failure of reading comprehension tonight, I thought it said he declared only one of two properties, then instead of ever declaring the farm, he transferred it to someone else's name 15 months later?
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# ? May 19, 2016 11:56 |
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Seems like this "leak" and the AFP raid line up awfully perfect.
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# ? May 19, 2016 12:00 |
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Bifauxnen posted:Am I just having a failure of reading comprehension tonight, I thought it said he declared only one of two properties, then instead of ever declaring the farm, he transferred it to someone else's name 15 months later? The Twin Gums farm is listed on his register of interests from August 2014 as a joint income
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# ? May 19, 2016 12:01 |
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I'm less disappointed by the fact this happened (if it's even a thing, it's a little more confusing than I can be bothered following) than by the fact it's going to really hurt the Greens. And you just know that this is going to stick far harder than similar or greater stories from the L-parties.
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# ? May 19, 2016 12:04 |
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The houses of 20 NBN staffers have been raided by the AFP throughout the day as well.
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# ? May 19, 2016 12:05 |
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adamantium|wang posted:The houses of 20 NBN staffers have been raided by the AFP throughout the day as well. Obviously a clear warning to others not to leak anything that might hurt the chances of the LNP.
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# ? May 19, 2016 12:17 |
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adamantium|wang posted:The houses of 20 NBN staffers have been raided by the AFP throughout the day as well. Wow that's going to kill morale there, if they have any. Work for the NBN and be hang drawn and quartered when the Liberals are made to look slightly bad. 20 means they haven't got a clue who with access did it and are just grabbing everyone and looking for anything they can use to incriminate someone for something on their hard drive.
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# ? May 19, 2016 12:17 |
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Comstar posted:Wow that's going to kill morale there, if they have any. Work for the NBN and be hang drawn and quartered when the Liberals are made to look slightly bad. They probably got a shortlist of suspected leftists from a manager and are using that as a guide.
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# ? May 19, 2016 12:39 |
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So tomorrow's papers will have Dodgy Labor, Dodgy Greens and Labor is breaking the law so the Feds were called in. I'm guessing the Pre-election Economic and Fiscal Outlook report due tomorrow is really, really bad and they are trying to bury it .
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# ? May 19, 2016 13:04 |
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gay picnic defence posted:They probably got a shortlist of suspected leftists from a manager and are using that as a guide. come on mate, if asio aren't the ones making insane lists what else are they there for
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# ? May 19, 2016 13:12 |
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edit: wrong thread
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# ? May 19, 2016 13:12 |
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Spot the amendment in Fairfax's story on di Natale:quote:And Senator Di Natale has paid three au pairs to help with his family as little as $150 a week after tax, or $3.75 an hour - based on a standard 40-hour week - as well as room and board worth $300 a week.
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# ? May 19, 2016 13:12 |
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Di Natale story is bullshit, they weren't au pairs they were interns
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# ? May 19, 2016 13:15 |
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I think the Libs and Murdoch media are trying to create mud for the election cycle to swim in. It all seems to be designed to bury the outrage at Dutton's comments.
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# ? May 19, 2016 13:24 |
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https://twitter.com/Alicedkc/status/731001424318857216
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# ? May 19, 2016 13:59 |
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I don't love that our sexy Greens saviour has loving au pairs, but the facts in the story are made for maximum beat up to get to that $150 / 40 hours = $3.75 an hour number all the usual labor suspects are now crowing on about. That's based off a full working week of 40 hours when the spokesman states working hours were approx 25 hours per week. But more annoyingly for this tax nerd is all the references to after-tax income. They were paid $187 per week, with $37 going to the ATO on their behalf. That's still part of your wages full stop. So $187 + $300 offset for food and boarding = $487 / 25 = $19.48, minimum wage is currently $17.29 (cant be arsed to check if there is an au pair award) The paying $300 of their wages for food and boarding I won't defend though, partly because I don't like it but also that I'm not at all familiar with the norms of that type of work.
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# ? May 19, 2016 14:02 |
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It is absolutely normal for au pairs to receive free food and board as part of living with the employing family, and I took it that the $300 was a figure Fairfax arrived at, separate from their other income.
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# ? May 19, 2016 14:04 |
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freebooter posted:Spot the amendment in Fairfax's story on di Natale: And according to an ABC report, Di Natalie says he declared the property twice when he was elected leader. Should be easy to check. But that's not the point of the story, is it.
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# ? May 19, 2016 14:12 |
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The damage has been done. Now on to the next story!
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# ? May 19, 2016 14:20 |
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https://twitter.com/DavidParis/status/733292822099460101
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# ? May 19, 2016 15:39 |
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Doesn't BDO work on the NBN? Stay safe brick dust ghost
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# ? May 19, 2016 15:43 |
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ewe2 posted:And according to an ABC report, Di Natalie says he declared the property twice when he was elected leader. Should be easy to check. But that's not the point of the story, is it. The point is RDN is defending abusing out lovely IR laws to pay his live in nannies $150 a week, after charging them $300 a week to live on one of his million dollar properties. Just because it's technically legal doesn't make it ethical or in accordance with core Greens values.
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# ? May 19, 2016 21:58 |
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turdbucket posted:The point is RDN is defending abusing out lovely IR laws to pay his live in nannies $150 a week, after charging them $300 a week to live on one of his million dollar properties. Just because it's technically legal doesn't make it ethical or in accordance with core Greens values. I doubt they were forced to live on the farm, and per the article, all the money decisions were made on professional advice.
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# ? May 19, 2016 22:36 |
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I guess the only pollie worth voting for now is Ricky Muir.
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# ? May 19, 2016 23:31 |
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https://twitter.com/Kieran_Gilbert/status/733401756688736256
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# ? May 19, 2016 23:36 |
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You Am I posted:I guess the only pollie worth voting for now is
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# ? May 19, 2016 23:37 |
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Snitches get stitches
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# ? May 19, 2016 23:39 |
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Snitches dig ditches, to lay copper cable (and fibre when able). A poem by M. Turnbull
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