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They've been so eager to slam Trudeau and his wife for months its really gross. The opposition obviously (to me) feels that they aren't going to win any points attacking his governments policies, maybe because they're both leaderless and holding their own book of failed policies from the election, so they're making it personal. It's very distasteful. It occurred to me that if the Liberals really wanted to push electoral reform, they could present the reforms and call a snap election on the issue while everyone else is in disarray. Sure Conservatives would cry fowl about wasting money, but I really think (hope?) everyone outside the Conservative base is tuning out their constant whiny tone.
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Brannock posted:Anything from Rona Ambrose yet? She's talking about it live right now, Trudeau at 10:40 http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/justin-trudeau-rona-ambrose-to-address-commons-fracas-after-elbowing-incident-1.3589007 e: now that's a privilege  e2: Butts wrote him a pretty good apology speech Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 15:37 on May 19, 2016 |
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Brannock posted:Anything from Rona Ambrose yet? Not yet quote:Hehe. After Sanders' thugs throwing chairs around, it's time for the Canadian left to display some aggressiveness, and at the top level at that. Clearly, despite their best efforts to show otherwise, it is not just the right that loses it. quote:Lol. "Trudeau Bullying Incident". I love it. quote:He's a self proclaimed feminist, who hits women
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If you are freaking out that this will be the fall of the house of Trudeau I'd say relax you are the only one. Trudeau's handlers remains as professional as ever and the quick apology was smart. If you don't realize why his behavior merited an apology though I can't help you.
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The only behaviour that is really stupid here is the NDP blowing this up in a vain attempt to remind Canada that they still exist. Thats what we should be getting an apology for.
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DynamicSloth posted:If you don't realize why his behavior merited an apology though I can't help you. I'm pretty sure everybody realises why his behaviour merited an apology, and I agree with you that it won't do any lasting damage, but what I struggle to understand is why it merits the utterly insane overreaction from the entire Opposition (save Elizabeth May who, and I never dreamed I would say this, is being the model of restraint) and, to a certain extent, the media.
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ZShakespeare posted:The only behaviour that is really stupid here is the NDP blowing this up in a vain attempt to remind Canada that they still exist. Thats what we should be getting an apology for. Then why did Trudeau apoligize?
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Dallan Invictus posted:I struggle to understand is why it merits the utterly insane overreaction from the entire Opposition If you look closely, Mulcair coaches the MP in question to leave the room. She was going back to her seat when they spoke, and she left before Trudeau made the path to her to apologize. Mulcair's outrage was manufactured because the more dysfunctional Parliament appears to be, the more relevant and principled (and moral!) Angry Tom looks. I don't want to assign a partisan perspective to this because I don't consider myself partisan, but there's little explanation that satisfies the course of events other than a dirty dirty play by the NDP. edit: To be clear, I don't condone Trudeau's bullish conduct in the House. I think it's unprofessional and unbecoming, and does add to the perceived dysfunction of the House that's becoming sort of a trend. I think people are rushing to an explanation because it does seem out of-character for him to act like that (it isn't really, you piece of poo poo). But what was rude and arrogant behavior has become a rallying torch for the opposition to stoke and kindle to sell as something much worse than it really is. Amgard fucked around with this message at 15:46 on May 19, 2016 |
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If I didn't think they were entirely too busy making sure people didn't kill themselves or be killed by someone else today, I'd want someone to ask a case worker or shelter volunteer who deals with actual violence against women to tell us where an accidental elbow in the boob ranks on a scale that includes getting your teeth smashed in or having cigarettes stubbed out on your body. I'm sure they just love it when "violence against women" is expanded to include a horrifying display such as this.
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This is the dumbest loving news cycle I have ever endured as a Canadian.
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Dallan Invictus posted:I'm pretty sure everybody realises why his behaviour merited an apology, and I agree with you that it won't do any lasting damage, but what I struggle to understand is why it merits the utterly insane overreaction from the entire Opposition (save Elizabeth May who, and I never dreamed I would say this, is being the model of restraint) and, to a certain extent, the media. If my boss walked into the office kitchen, yelled at your coworker to "get the gently caress out of the way" and grabbed another coworker by the arm because he was late for a meeting, we probably wouldn't be talking about much else that day either.
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DynamicSloth posted:Then why did Trudeau apoligize? Optics DynamicSloth posted:If my boss walked into the office kitchen, yelled at your coworker to "get the gently caress out of the way" and grabbed another coworker by the arm because he was late for a meeting, we probably wouldn't be talking about much else that day either. Trudeau is not their boss. In his role he is MP, Leader of the LPC, and PM but none of these equate to boss of anyone but his own party.
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DynamicSloth posted:Then why did Trudeau apoligize? Because it looks really bad if you don't, he loses nothing by doing so, and it restores civility to an uncivilized situation. It's not exactly "big" of him to apologize, it's expected. Plus if it comes down to votes on the Assisted Dying Bill (or any bills in the future), Trudeau has the narrative back in his favor to some extent. quote:If my boss walked into the office kitchen, yelled at your coworker to "get the gently caress out of the way" and grabbed another coworker by the arm because he was late for a meeting, we probably wouldn't be talking about much else that day either. Probably, but it's pretty petty and gross that all we care about in politics this week is a gentle nudge and an angry idiot screaming his head off, and not major legislation being tabled.
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May 19, 2016 15:48
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DynamicSloth posted:Then why did Trudeau apoligize? Where I'm from, inadvertently bumping into someone warrants an apology, at the very least polite if not sincere
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Dallan Invictus posted:I'm pretty sure everybody realises why his behaviour merited an apology, Which thread are you reading?
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DynamicSloth posted:Then why did Trudeau apoligize? Because it's what a civilized human does in a situation like this, rather than use it as a platform to score some cheap political points that makes your party into a joke to anyone with two neurons to rub together?
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Ofcourse he will apologize, he's a Canadian what is wrong with you people. People will apologize under their breath if they momentarily impede someones path on the sidewalk
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Brannock posted:Where I'm from, inadvertently bumping into someone warrants an apology, at the very least polite if not sincere He's also issued at least three formal apologies (which again I agree is the right thing to do). DynamicSloth fucked around with this message at 16:10 on May 19, 2016 |
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People keep refusing to look at the video so I did y'all a courtesy http://i.imgur.com/q1J9sPs.gifv You can see Graybeard here switch positions three times. The first two are maybe explainable as him being an oblivious idiot, the third time he's putting his entire body weight on his left leg and closing shoulder gap with Mulcair to his left. He immediately makes space and acts innocent when he sees JT walking towards the crowd. JT approaches, takes Brown by his arm (instead of GRAPPLING HIM AND NEARLY TEARING HIS SLEEVE) and guides him through the crowd. Brown stumbles a bit while being led by JT since he's trying to not bump into anyone else. Before JT turns away he says something to Mulcair or looks directly at Mulcair, I can't tell which. If you look carefully at Brosseau she's oblivious for most of this, then she looks up and notices Brown trying to get through the crowd. Right at the same time the greybeard lurches to the left Brosseau takes a half-step forward seemingly to assist her fellow NDP in blocking Brown. If you look at Mulcair too, you can see that he's perfectly aware that someone behind him is trying to break through. He stands there for a while making conversation with Brosseau, then when Brown makes his final attempt to get through Mulcair takes two steps backwards and closes shoulders with the old man. Right before getting elbowed Brosseau turns and laughs at something a NDP said behind her. In the full video, from the next perspective angle, we can see Mulcair is laughing too while Trudeau leads Brown forward. It's only several seconds later that Mulcair realizes that Brosseau was violently assaulted.
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I was happy to find a sixer of Fin du Monde at the LCBO this weekend. As craft beers go, I'd say it's pretty good, and I think I like it better than Beau's.
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flakeloaf posted:I was happy to find a sixer of Fin du Monde at the LCBO this weekend. As craft beers go, I'd say it's pretty good, and I think I like it better than Beau's. Finally important poo poo to talk about. Fin du Monde owns. Unibroue is a national treasure.
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DynamicSloth posted:If you are freaking out that this will be the fall of the house of Trudeau I'd say relax you are the only one. Trudeau's handlers remains as professional as ever and the quick apology was smart. "Oh sorry about that," would've done. The auto-de-fé was frankly unnecessary.
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flakeloaf posted:Fin du Monde ... craft beers I believe unibroue is owned by sleeman's which is owned by sapporo which is owned by a giant cayman island hedge fund. Not that that makes it a bad beer or anything but it's craft beer in the same way that Trudeau is a feminist.
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Amgard posted:Finally important poo poo to talk about. The MLCC recently expanded its selection of Unibroue past single bottles and now offers full cases.
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Nothing that happened reflects well on the Liberals or the NDP but the NDP were the most WTF of all of it
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Ikantski posted:I believe unibroue is owned by sleeman's which is owned by sapporo which is owned by a giant cayman island hedge fund. Hmm, that could explain why it's easier to find at LCBOs. Is it just me or are there a LOT of tiny breweries popping up around Ottawa? There's one on my walk home from work that offers free samples to anyone who wants to wade into the bush behind the Shefford commerical park, so maybe I'll try that when I know I won't have anything to do the next day just in case. Have you noticed any that aren't Traceroute: The Beverage?
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BattleMaster posted:Nothing that happened reflects well on the Liberals or the NDP but the NDP were the most WTF of all of it The NDP were being loving children there. Like, ffs, these are the people helping make decisions in this country? What the hell? Why do we continue to elect these people if they're going to play childish blocking games?
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flakeloaf posted:Hmm, that could explain why it's easier to find at LCBOs. You can get Unibroue in the southern United States and even some places in Britain, it's got a pretty wide distribution. As for microbreweries popping up, our resident Ontario beer expert did post a while ago that the number of breweries in Ontario has been growing by the hundreds in the past few years.
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DynamicSloth posted:That's still loving crazy, why in God's name would Trudeau take it upon himself to personally coral other Member's of Parliament. If he was a Liberal back bencher he'd be getting torn a new one by his House Leader right now. Because Trudeau was sick of the childish bullshit Mulcair and that other fucker were causing.
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This should be added to the OP and the next thread imo. We need to keep pauldewar.gif as well
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flakeloaf posted:Hmm, that could explain why it's easier to find at LCBOs. If you like fin du monde and want local craft, you might like big rig's black ipa, it's a mouthful but less alcohol and more hops. Dominion City has really good beer, I'd go there if it was closer. You might see Whitewater Brewing can in LCBO too, they're from Cobden and pretty good. Fake edit: A list, http://ottawamagazine.com/eating-and-drinking/capital-pint/capital-pint-the-ultimate-beer-run/#more-67094
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Vintersorg posted:Because Trudeau was sick of the childish bullshit Mulcair and that other fucker were causing. https://twitter.com/curryb/status/733321309178974208  Can we bring in a high school model Parliament to replace everyone up on the hill?
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DynamicSloth posted:That's still loving crazy, why in God's name would Trudeau take it upon himself to personally coral other Member's of Parliament. If he was a Liberal back bencher he'd be getting torn a new one by his House Leader right now. Mulcair and his stooges were openly bullying a frail old fart of a man. Trudeau may have come in fists swinging like a Bull in a china shop, but in his mind he was standing up for a dude who was being prevented from moving in the House, to his bench, by a bunch of five year old children. How it played out is open for discussion, but if you think Trudeau's primary goal was to beat up some opposition: you're definitely drinking the kool-aid the media is mixing. quote:NDP house leader Julian refuses to say whether NDP were deliberately blocking Brown to delay last night's vote. Calls it "irrelevant." lmao quote:it's a mouthful but less alcohol and more hops Jesus dude, why even bother
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I have recently discovered that I really like Witbier. What is best?
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Ikantski posted:If you like fin du monde and want local craft, you might like big rig's black ipa, it's a mouthful but less alcohol and more hops. Dominion City has really good beer, I'd go there if it was closer. You might see Whitewater Brewing can in LCBO too, they're from Cobden and pretty good. I do like Chris Phillips as a person but a mouthful of hops isn't my idea of a good time. Pretty sure Dominion City's the name of the place I was talking about, so now I have an excuse to go by there insteaoh god some savage microwaved fish sticks I am loving out
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