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THAT MEANS CLASSIC, TOO, SINCE IT'S NATURAL THIS DOESN'T END UNTIL SEPTEMBER 1ST, STOP ASKING MANDATORY FIESTA LISTENING: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ginfs4TY0oo Welcome to the Final Fantasy V Four Job Fiesta 2016 thread! In its fourth year running, this thread will be the SA headquarters for the Four Job Fiesta, equal parts to keep us from taking over the FF Megathread as well as a single point of action for trading tricks and trips, cursing Gilgabot's lack of mercy, or whatever Fiesta-related discussion you may want. Much like the years before, we hope to bring lots of victories, lots of donations, and lots of berserkers from the Berserker Tree! Quick Links: Goon IRC, Official Website, Official Blog, Official Subreddit (yes, yes, I know, but it's official) So Kyrosiris, what IS the Four Job Fiesta? Every year, RevenantKioku and his trusty sidekick Gilgabot (or maybe it's the other way around?) organize the Fiesta as a charity drive for Child's Play and as a gathering for all FFV fans to celebrate the game. Mechanically, the Fiesta challenges you to play through Final Fantasy V using just one job from each Crystal. Hard Mode ups the ante, allowing Gilgabot to pull from past Crystals - you can, for example, get another White Mage from the Fire Crystal, or a Berserker from the Earth Crystal! In 2012, the Berserker Risk option was added as a way to pump up the difficulty even more - for every $10 raised prior to the Fiesta's start, every Berserker Risk participant was assigned a mandatory Berserker! Enough was raised to stick every participant at Risk with at least one Berserker, and SA member Trasson ended up with what was considered the nastiest team of the Fiesta - a Knight and THREE Berserkers! 2013 renamed Hard Mode to "Random Mode" which is honestly more accurate, and added the new Team 750/No-750 and Natural modes, adding extra fun and challenge. 2015 upped the stakes and added the much-beloved Chaos Mode, which was what we all wanted from Random all along - any job is possible from any crystal, and duplicates are possible, leading to a handful of Chaos Riskers ending up with FOUR. FREAKING. BERSERKERS. (RIP Everhate, The Chosen One) While the challenge is not one regularly "recommended" for those new to Final Fantasy V, there have been several goons who challenged the Fiesta as their first playthrough of the game and triumphed! That said, the challenge will definitely require a bit more aptitude and awareness of the game's mechanics and neat combos than a game where you plow through everything with !X-Fight, !X-Magic, and other powerful combos (that is, unless Gilgabot is merciful and gives you those combos). It goes a long way to help snap the decision paralysis that plagues a lot of first-time players of FFV, though. Well, I've never played FFV before. Should I try anyways? Absolutely! Like I said, lots of goons have earned their first victory in FFV through the Fiesta - either combinations of the restricted job access giving them real focus to finish the game, or getting advice from the littany of Fiesta veterans that haunt this thread and IRC, or for whatever reason. Plus, FFV is fun, and you're playing for charity (via either your donations or runs that you finish that trigger other people's pledges)! How's this all work, then? What're the rules? An example team would be mine from 2012 - I got Thief, Summoner, Ninja, and Samurai. From the Wind Crystal on, I had to have a full party of Thieves. Once I finished the Water Crystal, I got to choose a configuration of at least 1 Thief and at least 1 Summoner, and then the other two could be either Thieves or Summoners, with no limit aside from having at least one of each. The Fire crystal was the same - I had to field at least one Ninja, Summoner, and Thief at all times, and my fourth character could be what was best suited of my three job options. After the Earth Crystal, that was it - everyone was locked in. You can switch jobs around as is necessary, but you've gotta adhere to those guidelines. If you want your Ninja to learn some Summon Magic, that Summoner has to switch to being a Ninja too. Note that for Natural and Chaos runs, you use Freelancers until you have obtained your assigned jobs. A Ranger/Samurai/Dragoon/Chemist Chaos run would use Freelancers until you get the Black Chocobo, and a White Mage/Time Mage/Bard/Chemist Natural run has Faris as a Freelancer until the same. So who the hell is Gilgabot? Gilgabot is the Twitter bot that does the backend paperwork of the Fiesta. You tweet keywords to him (@FF5ForFutures) at certain thresholds in your playthrough and he will do whatever those correspond to. For example, you can tweet "@FF5ForFutures #Water" to note that you've reached the Water Crystal. Gilgabot will then reply (maybe - he hit the daily tweet limit several times last year) with your Job assignment for that crystal. You can see a full list of his commands here. (link this to letsplaying's commands page when the site's back up) Twitter? Ewww, I don't do that social media bullshit. Tough. Don't blame Gilgabot, blame yourself or God. If you wanna Fiesta (at least officially - no one's stopping you from doing your own using random.org or similar), you gotta tweet. Worst case scenario, you make a throw-away account you use just for the Fiesta and then ignore it. Many goons do this every year. NOTE THAT IF YOU HAVE A PROTECTED ACCOUNT, YOU WILL HAVE EXTREME DIFFICULTY FIESTA-ING OFFICIALLY. Consider making a throwaway or PM me your twitter handle on SA and I'll give it to RK so he can have Gilgabot request to follow you. Help! Gilgabot gave me a shittacular job combo and $BOSS is kicking my rear end! Relax. Trasson got through the entire game and even the optional superboss Shinryu in 2012 with a Knight and three Berserkers. You can beat the focus of your ire too, with some strategy and tenacity. That said, we're not going to leave you in the lurch - lots of FFV pros participate in the Fiesta, and in 2012 we came up with a veritable compendium of knowledge, tactics, and advice (which got loving additions in 2013 and 2014, too!). You can find it here, but be aware it contains story and boss spoilers, as well as a significant amount of mechanical information for the game. Other resources include Sulla's Solo Single Class Challenges, the FFV Algorithm Guide (for SNES and GBA), The Spirit of FFV (has built-in "translation" of names/spells between versions) and IRC! We'll all be prattling away at #FFVFiesta on SynIRC. Also, this year, forums poster Reiterpallasch made Enkibot! A riff on Gilgabot, you plug your jobs in to the app and it spits out advice based on your jobs. Collaboratively contributed to by those of us in IRC. (join IRC) Science is scary and I can't use !Mix, the most powerful ability in FFV! Help me!!!! Relax. Learn the true power of here. Don't glitch Exdeath! (especially since your victory won't count, heh) Alright, I'm in! What do I do? Get on Twitter and send Gilgabot (@FF5ForFutures) a pre-registration tweet. This will look something like "@FF5ForFutures #regrand #BERSERKERRISK". Then, just wait for the Fiesta to start! What's New for 2016? https://twitter.com/FF5ForFutures/status/733092154671669248 (it is yet unknown if you are allowed to blame god) There is also Upgrade, which is mutually exclusive with Natural, but is still bad. RK's words: quote:Upgrade can be added to any non Natural-run. To do so either tweet #upgrade to Gilgabot after registering or include it in your registration tweet. What this means it that you intend on playing with these extra rules in mind. Also also, 750 and No 750 are now modifiers! You can do CHAOS NO750 BERSERKER RISK and this is probably going to be hilarious. Additionally, everything is still being run through the official 4JF Subreddit. Trivia and Infographic Nonsense! Every year, RevenantKioku puts out an infographic for the year's Fiesta, covering a lot of trivia and data, distribution of classes, stuff like that (as well as how fair and balanced Gilgabot was, which he always is). They're pretty neat, and are timg'd below - click the year (or expand the image, but they're really big) for big. 2011 Infographic: 2012 Infographic: 2013 Infographic: 2014 Infographic: 2015 Infographic: Unlike in years, I will not be maintaining a list of winners or donors in the OP, sheerly because of the absolutely ridiculous volume of winners and donors. You guys were entirely too skilled and generous for me to keep up with. I'm really sorry. This does NOT mean you guys are off the hook from watering the Berserker Tree! Always more berserkers. Always. Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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Y'all made fanart. For the Fiesta. You're all the best. 2014 Fanart (by Bloodwulfe) (also by Bloodwulfe) (by Asiina) (again, by Bloodwulfe) (by Shoehead) (yup, still Bloodwulfe) (Bloodwulfe: still the best) (THE LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE MEAN NOTHING TO A_Raving_Loon) Can of Worms is rad as hell and has made multiple FFV Advance patches, including the source of the above gif. Fiesta State Mod (no mechanical changes, but does unlock all jobs at the start for Chaos mode games) FFVA Balance Mod (actual mechanical changes) (changelog) 2015 Fanart Mega64 takes on the trials and tribulations of the Omnizerker. (What's Flarnith's art doing here?!) (neongrey needs to be sure you heard him correctly.) 2016 Fanart (Asterism has to face some tough choices.) (Koobes decided to correct Mid a bit.) (Let's just call this a work by Edward_Tohr and move on with life) Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Jun 25, 2016 |
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STOP ASKING ABOUT THE SEALED TEMPLE GOD DAMNIT JUST READ THIS INSTEAD thanks alcharagia alcharagia posted:hello this is a post about the sealed temple. Fiesta season is here! Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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I was considering not doing Berzerker risk for a change of pace since I've done it the last two years, but then I read that Everhate passed away earlier this year, so I gotta grab some of the 'zerkers that he would have.
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Hell yeah. It's competing with the delayed release of the SE of a certain Strategy RPG but I'll still give my all this year. Just my all is less than usual.
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after a few years of this, I'm thoroughly convinced that Berserkers are a much better job to receive than Red Mage at any and all points
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Lovely Senorita posted:after a few years of this, I'm thoroughly convinced that Berserkers are a much better job to receive than Red Mage at any and all points It's been posited a few times that if RK knew better it would be Geomancer Risk, not Berserker Risk. May he never ever figure this out.
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Kyrosiris posted:It's been posited a few times that if RK knew better it would be Geomancer Risk, not Berserker Risk. Ah, yeah, crossposted from the FF Megathread: Schwartzcough posted:Geomancer risk?
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This Bartz the Light Warrior has become Foreverial Tiedup Bartz and he was fully delitized with his organs and inside and literally his whole body changed into a permanent living bologna version with permanent living bologna organs and insides and a permanent bologna, ham and cream cheese tongue.
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alcharagia posted:This Bartz the Light Warrior has become Foreverial Tiedup Bartz and he was fully delitized with his organs and inside and literally his whole body changed into a permanent living bologna version with permanent living bologna organs and insides and a permanent bologna, ham and cream cheese tongue. Good luck with 4 berserkers.
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Sweet. A friend was speaking about streaming a co-op run so I may do that in addition to my usual solo run. May work a bit on my secondary guides (Status Effects, Blue Magic, etc.) for the build-up to the fiesta beginning. e: Also once pre-regs go up I'll donate last year's Fartz donations to add five Berserkers to the pile. Don't have any plans for other donation gimmicks yet if I do any.
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# ? May 19, 2016 20:59 |
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Getting a geomancer whatever year I did made me intensely sad I think I would prefer berserker over it
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Mega64 posted:Sweet. A friend was speaking about streaming a co-op run so I may do that in addition to my usual solo run. Co-op runs are super fun and I recommend them to everyone who can tolerate playing the game without a fastforward button
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that run actually had a berserker, geomancer, and red mage I thnk Somehow I finished that thing
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voltcatfish posted:that run actually had a berserker, geomancer, and red mage I thnk Jesus Christ I'm sorry.
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# ? May 19, 2016 21:16 |
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That is some required listening in the OP!
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# ? May 19, 2016 21:18 |
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I haven't played FF5 in like 6 years, so I kept meaning to do a replay during the FJF, but every year I was caught up in some military obligation and was without my computer for large chunks of the summer. This year I am out of the military and have all the time in the world on my hands. I am super hyped for this to finally happen.
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Looking forward to another Fiesta. I will name my first run BACON in honor of Everhate. RIP Quadzerker.
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# ? May 19, 2016 21:29 |
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Did my first fiesta last year, had a lot of fun with my 9 runs. Looking forward to this year.
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# ? May 19, 2016 22:08 |
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Always an excellent way to start off the summer! Looking forward to whatever terrible things happen this year!
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last post
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I hope this year, if I feel like a second run, I actually complete it. I have a terrible habit of starting then abandoning second runs for some reason.
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# ? May 19, 2016 22:31 |
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This year I'll beat the game.
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# ? May 19, 2016 22:34 |
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all i wont for is random and chaos w no duplicates
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# ? May 19, 2016 22:39 |
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One of these years I'll go read the rules and actually do this. Maybe it'll be this year??? Hard to when you've never played FFV though vv
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mabels big day posted:This year I'll beat the game. i believe in you
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# ? May 19, 2016 22:56 |
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i'm pretty burned out frm the last few years, think i'm going to do a kawazu marathon instead. please have fun, everyne participating
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All I want this year is to not get a Samurai again. I got Samurai the past two years, and while I love the class and everything, it's just too easy at a point.
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oh god is it this time of year again?
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zolthorg posted:all i wont for is random and chaos w no duplicates
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# ? May 19, 2016 23:51 |
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Ah man, I can't wait for this to start. I hope the secret command is 4 zerkers. I'd take that in a heartbeat.
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I'm ready to work out with my zerk out.
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Huzzah! posted:Ah man, I can't wait for this to start. I hope the secret command is 4 zerkers. I'd take that in a heartbeat. Can't tell if serious... 4 Zerkers is "hard" in that it requires an incredible amount of patience to grind levels and hold fast-forward on your emulator and then load state a million times until the RNG stars align, all while having no input on battles outside of gearing up beforehand. It's the "incredibly tedious and soul-sucking" kind of hard, rather than "proving how much of a great gamer you are" hard.
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Schwartzcough posted:Can't tell if serious... The Berserker life isn't about making sound, well thought decisions.
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I would be extremely surprised if the secret command isn't 4zerk.
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i kinda wanna try this out this year despite never having played ff4 before. is the GBA game the best way? a store near me has a copy for like $45 but it's still sealed. i don't really wanna unbox it but at the same time...i do.
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Yes, the GBA version is the best version.
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# ? May 20, 2016 00:18 |
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secret command wont be 4 zerk it will probably be something novel like only terrible classes or only team comps that finished the least number of runs from previous years
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Someone clue me in when the secret command gets found
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