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There's been a weird buzz around my LGS about (mono red?) Modern LD. Are people talking out their asses, or is there something to it? I've looked at some of the things that have been said, and I have to admit that Crack the Earth + Akki Blizzard-Herder seems a pretty funny thing to do.
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TheCog posted:I am slowly getting my girlfriend into magic, using the duel decks. The next step seems to be to get "real" decks, which given budgetary constraints means pauper. What are some evenly matched pauper decks, considering we're mostly going to be playing against each other? What types of decks do you both enjoy?
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May 19, 2016 16:19
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TheCog posted:I am slowly getting my girlfriend into magic, using the duel decks. The next step seems to be to get "real" decks, which given budgetary constraints means pauper. What are some evenly matched pauper decks, considering we're mostly going to be playing against each other? Card kingdom has a bunch of $9 'battle decks' on their site, they're pretty good and cheap if you're just playing for fun. They're not strictly pauper decks though as they have uncommons and some rando bulk rares/mythics.
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May 19, 2016 16:32
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PJOmega posted:What types of decks do you both enjoy? I'm a control player at heart, Blue black control or reality acid would be my type of deck, but they can be frustrating to play against and i want to avoid every matchup being a slog. I enjoy weirder decks with altetnate win conditions (see hedron alignment, etc) My girlfriend is much more about smashing face, my first thought was something like mono-red goblins, but im open to suggestions.
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May 19, 2016 16:38
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you should go with my personal favorite aggro deck in pauper - affinity.
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May 19, 2016 16:50
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TheCog posted:I am slowly getting my girlfriend into magic, using the duel decks. The next step seems to be to get "real" decks, which given budgetary constraints means pauper. What are some evenly matched pauper decks, considering we're mostly going to be playing against each other? Don't actually play 'pauper' just play casual - go to a store that sells cards and has a 10/25 cent box, and spend an hour grabbing cards that look cool for decks you might want to make. 15 bucks later you have two similarly-powered decks that have more fun cards than pauper does.
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May 19, 2016 16:52
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Xaerael posted:There's been a weird buzz around my LGS about (mono red?) Modern LD. Are people talking out their asses, or is there something to it? I've looked at some of the things that have been said, and I have to admit that Crack the Earth + Akki Blizzard-Herder seems a pretty funny thing to do. One of the guys on the Eh Team podcast has been brewing a RG ramp/land hate deck that looks something like this: 2 Birds of Paradise 4 Arbor Elf 2 Scavenging Ooze 2 Obstinate Baloth 3 Stormbreath Dragon 4 Inferno Titan 4 Bonfire of the Damned 4 Utopia Sprawl 3 Beast Within 3 Stone Rain 4 Blood Moon 4 Mwonvuli Acid-Moss 1 Kessig Wolf Run 1 Mountain 3 Stomping Ground 4 Windswept Heath 4 Wooded Foothills 8 Forest 2 Guttural Response 1 Scavenging Ooze 3 Ancient Grudge 3 Sudden Shock 3 Kitchen Finks 2 Thrun, the Last Troll 1 Shatterstorm PhyrexianLibrarian fucked around with this message at 17:01 on May 19, 2016 |
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May 19, 2016 16:58
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Xaerael posted:There's been a weird buzz around my LGS about (mono red?) Modern LD. Are people talking out their asses, or is there something to it? I've looked at some of the things that have been said, and I have to admit that Crack the Earth + Akki Blizzard-Herder seems a pretty funny thing to do. I remember seeing a mono-red prison deck once with Blood Moon/Ensnaring Bridge that finished with PWs, you could trying working LD into that kind of shell but it seemed like it would have things it would rather cast on turn 3 than Stone Rain.
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May 19, 2016 17:12
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There was a list Bahra was doing ok with a few months back, r/w boom/bust. Had ajani vengeant, stone rain, magus of the tabernacle. Seemed ok but a bit slow.
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May 19, 2016 17:31
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Xaerael posted:There's been a weird buzz around my LGS about (mono red?) Modern LD. Are people talking out their asses, or is there something to it? I've looked at some of the things that have been said, and I have to admit that Crack the Earth + Akki Blizzard-Herder seems a pretty funny thing to do. Not Mono Red but I've been playing this at Friday Night Modern to success // Lands 4 Bloodstained Mire 4 Ghost Quarter 8 Mountain 1 Plains 4 Sacred Foundry 4 Temple of Triumph // Creatures // Spells 3 Ajani Vengeant 2 Anger of the Gods 4 Boros Signet 1 Chandra, the Firebrand 1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion 3 Ghostly Prison 2 Koth of the Hammer 4 Lightning Bolt 3 Molten Rain 2 Outpost Siege 3 Path to Exile 4 Stone Rain 3 Trinisphere // Sideboard SB: 1 Anger of the Gods SB: 2 Celestial Flare SB: 2 Damping Matrix SB: 1 Ghostly Prison SB: 2 Rending Volley SB: 3 Rest in Peace SB: 2 Vandalblast SB: 2 Wear // Tear (Tear)
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May 19, 2016 17:38
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Elyv posted:the thing is, it's not that slow. The worst case is that they spend a 2 mana spell to kill it on turn 3; that's really not that bad. Company even encourages those type of exchanges, but Displacer is showing up in non green decks. Company really is a busted card. When you think about it, Read the bones is a good card, but for 1 extra mana you get those cards into play at instant speed without life loss (ignoring the obvious differences in card draw, and the deck building restraints of coco).
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May 19, 2016 18:33
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I've nothing particularly against coco as a card but it is incredibly format warping for standard.
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May 19, 2016 18:53
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Wurzag posted:I've nothing particularly against coco as a card but it is incredibly format warping for standard. Ehh the "Best Deck" doesn't play it and there are a bunch of control decks running around be they Grixis/BW/Esper that don't play it.
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May 19, 2016 18:56
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Opinion time! Given the current meta expected for this weekend, would you rather: Play 4 kitchen finks or 4 Loxodon smiters? Finks seemed better with the rush of aggro decks after eldrazi got banned, but if nahiri control decks are going to be popular then smiter seems good. Both are good vs jund. 2/2 split also optional I suppose. Play 3 Abrupt decay/1 maelstrom pulse, or 2/2 split? 3 decay is normally best but pulse is better as walkers are becoming more common, between jeskai nahiri and tron.
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May 19, 2016 19:08
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Wurzag posted:I've nothing particularly against coco as a card but it is incredibly format warping for standard. Well, while Siege Rhino was around it didn't have too much of an impact until Reflector Mage showed up. e:Actually, Rally showed up towards the tail end of Theros/Khans, I think.
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May 19, 2016 19:36
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Opinion time! Given the current meta expected for this weekend, would you rather: I want the 4th Finks before the first Smiter. I also vote for 2/2 Decay/Pulse split.
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May 19, 2016 19:43
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mcmagic posted:I want the 4th Finks before the first Smiter. I also vote for 2/2 Decay/Pulse split. That's the current plan. I used to run 4 smiters when twin was a thing because it was a great card in that matchup, I only reconsidered it on the premise that jeskai nahiri will become popular and remand/counters will become popular again.
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May 19, 2016 20:38
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Opinion time! Given the current meta expected for this weekend, would you rather: Finks is an incredibly strong card against Burn, Zoo, and buys you time against alot of other decks in the format, and burning you out is one of the Jeskai decks backup plans if they can't do the Emrakul thing. One thing to keep in mind about the Jeskai deck is that if they slam the Nahari as fast as possible, that means you get turn 4/5 to do whatever you want, and if they hold back to do it turn 5, they only have a path or a bolt to interact with you. And if they wait till turn 6 you can force things through Mana Leak or Remand anyways.
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May 19, 2016 22:46
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Yeah, sticking with finks. Shouldn't questions things that have worked fine 2 days beforehand. Opinions again: I have a flex spot on my top end. Sigarda or Thrun both seem pretty good right now. Both good vs nahiri jeskai, both good against gbx decks. I'm wondering if they immunity to emrakul/Liliana is better than Thrun being immune to counters.
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May 19, 2016 22:50
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Assuming 4 cmc vs. 5 cmc doesn't make a huge difference, I think I would learn towards Sigarda for being evasive. On the board Thrun is just kind of a dude.
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May 19, 2016 22:53
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Im still torn. Straight burn or some kind of green white deck for modern? I have some declaration in stones that need some play.
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May 20, 2016 00:12
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Is Sea Gate Wreckage not seeing play in Burn? It seems like a great way to get extra cards once you're in topdeck mode.
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May 20, 2016 00:25
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Zemyla posted:Is Sea Gate Wreckage not seeing play in Burn? It seems like a great way to get extra cards once you're in topdeck mode. There are very, very few cards in burn that can use colorless mana.
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May 20, 2016 00:27
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Zemyla posted:Is Sea Gate Wreckage not seeing play in Burn? It seems like a great way to get extra cards once you're in topdeck mode. You're playing a low land count and need to hit three colors (plus double red and possibly double white), there's no room for colorless lands, and definitely no room for colorless lands that need a second colorless for you to get the payoff. Edit: also like Ultima said, it doesn't actually cast anything.
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May 20, 2016 00:31
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Zemyla posted:Is Sea Gate Wreckage not seeing play in Burn? It seems like a great way to get extra cards once you're in topdeck mode. You'd need double colorless to actually use the thing. A mana base that supports double colorless will cost you more cards in the form of mulligans than it'll ever gain as a 5+ CMC option.
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May 20, 2016 00:38
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My pet peeve for a long time has been how the fall set seems to last forever and everything else is packed in to may-august so I finally graphed it. It really pounds the message home. I mean, look at 3xTHE!
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May 20, 2016 00:43
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Funny how when a promo has modern/legacy playability , stores "misplace" them in larger than normal numbers. Stupid Goblin Warchief of all things has seemed get lost in my metroplex from at least 5 stores so far. 4 out of these 5 stores also lost visions and path the last time.
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May 20, 2016 01:11
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little munchkin posted:You're playing a low land count and need to hit three colors (plus double red and possibly double white), there's no room for colorless lands, and definitely no room for colorless lands that need a second colorless for you to get the payoff. what plays double white in burn, i thought white was only for helix and boros charm
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May 20, 2016 01:32
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Sickening posted:Funny how when a promo has modern/legacy playability , stores "misplace" them in larger than normal numbers. Stupid Goblin Warchief of all things has seemed get lost in my metroplex from at least 5 stores so far. 4 out of these 5 stores also lost visions and path the last time.
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May 20, 2016 01:32
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mandatory lesbian posted:what plays double white in burn, i thought white was only for helix and boros charm That's for Kor Firewalker in the mirror
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May 20, 2016 01:35
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standard.deviant posted:I handed at them out at at least one shop you FNM at two weeks ago... How many different places can you FNM? Dfw has a bunch of stores bro.
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May 20, 2016 01:49
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Sickening posted:Dfw has a bunch of stores bro.
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May 20, 2016 02:01
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Zemyla posted:Is Sea Gate Wreckage not seeing play in Burn? It seems like a great way to get extra cards once you're in topdeck mode. You have a low land count as it is, you're very often keeping a two-land hand, and you need both of those lands to make red mana. Almost all your spells cost a single red mana or RR or RW, you have very few 1R or 2R spells in the deck that can even make use of colorless mana. And you would need to draw multiples of it to be able to even activate it in the first place unless you're running Battlefield Forge or something as part of your mana base.
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May 20, 2016 02:10
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standard.deviant posted:True, but only one Friday per week. Why bounce around, especially to stores that have been lovely in the past? Combination of different friends that play at different stores and me trying to find a store to stick to. All the good stores (Madness/Common Grounds) are farthest from me but have the best FNMs. I have been bouncing all over to figure out which of the smaller local stores have FNM worth going to. Its also fun to go to a store you haven't played at in a long time. All the stores 10 minutes and less to my house have issues consistently firing fnm. Where are you? Madness?
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May 20, 2016 02:19
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standard.deviant posted:True, but only one Friday per week. Why bounce around, especially to stores that have been lovely in the past? All T no shade, dudebro is grinding out FNM wins for good promo cards and is willing to deal with some stinky grognards in damp basements to get them.
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May 20, 2016 02:21
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Sickening posted:Combination of different friends that play at different stores and me trying to find a store to stick to. All the good stores (Madness/Common Grounds) are farthest from me but have the best FNMs. I have been bouncing all over to figure out which of the smaller local stores have FNM worth going to. Its also fun to go to a store you haven't played at in a long time. All the stores 10 minutes and less to my house have issues consistently firing fnm.
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May 20, 2016 02:22
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standard.deviant posted:Yeah, but I make maybe one FNM a month. Mostly I come out for Saturday Legacy. I live north of the DFW airport and the puts me in a weird place for magic shops. All the close local shops are having issues with attendance, all the ones slightly farther than that have shady practices. And madness is without a doubt the worst loving place to go to for game day or promos that are interesting because WOTC hasn't figured out that the larges FNM in the world might need more promos and playmats. Sickening fucked around with this message at 02:28 on May 20, 2016 |
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May 20, 2016 02:26
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Sickening posted:I live north of the DFW airport and the puts me in a weird place for magic shops. All the close local shops are having issues with attendance, all the ones slightly farther than that have shady practices. How far from Denton are you? I had fun at their Vintage thing a month or so back. I assume they have reasonable FNMs, and I get along pretty well with their judges.
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May 20, 2016 02:38
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standard.deviant posted:Yeah they need some sort of super mega advance level or something. The shops in denton, plano, and common grounds are all 30+ minutes.
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Sickening posted:The shops in denton, plano, and common grounds are all 30+ minutes.
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