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Ambaire posted:The question is: which arty group applies damage first? Is it some sort of weird composite hybrid or distinct? This is a good question, and another question I would like add on is how does damage with multiple damage type components apply, ie hybrid guns that do X thermal and Y kinetic damage. Would it do damage with the two resists averaged by how much damage each damage type does? This to me seems like how it would work but I don't know. 
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Another question, what if two separate guys with two separate types of ammo fire during the same tick? Is the one that is fired minutely faster but still during the same tick applied first?
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avatarinwin posted:This is a good question, and another question I would like add on is how does damage with multiple damage type components apply, ie hybrid guns that do X thermal and Y kinetic damage. If you're going to 'snipe' the top of the page, quote my entire post so it's more visible. I was thinking about waiting two posts to make mine but I didn't feel good about it. :P Edit: And for some content, have these beauty shots of the 4 racial light fighters from the new detachable camera view. 9 image album    
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May 20, 2016 11:43
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:please post the pubbie guide for me. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1knVqZEH8qFY0eT44nMEFwcKd3t4PbgcZeuv58SVUxsI/pub for burners there's a couple that hang in the 50-75m range
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ChickenWing posted:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1knVqZEH8qFY0eT44nMEFwcKd3t4PbgcZeuv58SVUxsI/pub Yikes 490 days of training, I guess I'll stick with shooting rocks for now.
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May 20, 2016 15:10
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I just noticed that without skills/standings you need spreads of 7% to profit in Jita now 
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Hagop posted:Yikes 490 days of training, I guess I'll stick with shooting rocks for now. That's for maximum poopsocking. I'm sure with crapper skills you'll just make less money.
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So what is the ramp up speed on shooting things to make money? Right now it looks like a month worth of training in mining actives is going to get me to about 15 mill/hour assuming I say in high sec.
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Hagop posted:So what is the ramp up speed on shooting things to make money? Right now it looks like a month worth of training in mining actives is going to get me to about 15 mill/hour assuming I say in high sec. you can make more than this running around lowsec hunting valuable rats
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May 20, 2016 15:58
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Landsknecht posted:you can make more than this running around lowsec hunting valuable rats Also doing exploration which takes almost no skill investment, 3 days or so to get everything to level 3 for T1 scanning frigates which is good enough to even do nullsec sites with a bit of luck. Income is variable but you can get at least 20m an hour.
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I've personally enjoyed exploration quite a bit, and depending on where you land alliance wise it is always a beneficial skill to have. I think the most isk I've made in game was when I did low sec incursions with a group for about a month or two. At the time they were accepting T1 megathrons in (which required like a month of training from a zero skill character) and, to me, that seemed pretty darn accessible. YMMV of course depending on what groups you join, but running incursions seems like a great way to step up isk making after doing things like ratting/exploring.
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Catch is the best Null region for exploration site income. Lowsec isn't bad either but you get a bit better payouts in Null depending on the region.
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So I took a look at the other characters on my account. I tried eve back in like 2005 and let a collage roommate run the account for awhile after I got sucked into wow. I seem to have a character that can fly and owns a Rupture. I found a random fit on the internet and set everything I could not already fit to a tier one version. Leaving me about 22 hours of training time away from the below. Is their anything clearly wrong about this fit? Also about how low in low sec should I take a boat like this? Guristas are the rats for my region if that matters. [Rupture] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Large Shield Extender I Kinetic Deflection Amplifier I Thermal Dissipation Amplifier I 10MN Afterburner I 425mm AutoCannon I, Phased Plasma M 425mm AutoCannon I, Phased Plasma M 425mm AutoCannon I, Phased Plasma M 425mm AutoCannon I, Phased Plasma M Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Scourge Heavy Assault Missile Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Medium Core Defense Field Purger I Hobgoblin I x5
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Is there a newbee that wants to grind my market guy standings for caldari navy? All this involves is an industrial or frigate, and time to move packages around.
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jm20 posted:Is there a newbee that wants to grind my market guy standings for caldari navy? All this involves is an industrial or frigate, and time to move packages around. How much time? I have the big slow iteron, but only like an hour or two a night.
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Assuming you're not on a crazy tight budget, upgrade the weapons, shield mods, and afterburner to meta modules - for a lot of things meta 3 seems to be an inflection point on the price/performance curve but YMMV depending on the market. I have a couple arty ruptures in highsec that aren't seeing any use, I could contract you one if you want to strip anything off it or need a spare hull. Also if you train for shield upgrades 4 (day and a half maybe?) you can use the T2 large shield extender which will help with your passive regeneration as well (since it is % based). After that you'd probably be OK for belt rats I guess? I've only tried that a few times but a Catalyst or Algos worked in Dek (albeit very slowly and ready to run if taking too much damage).
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Morris posted:Assuming you're not on a crazy tight budget, upgrade the weapons, shield mods, and afterburner to meta modules - for a lot of things meta 3 seems to be an inflection point on the price/performance curve but YMMV depending on the market. I have a couple arty ruptures in highsec that aren't seeing any use, I could contract you one if you want to strip anything off it or need a spare hull. Oh cool, how much do you want for the ruptures?
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Hagop posted:How much time? I have the big slow iteron, but only like an hour or two a night. However long it takes for me to get to 6.67 . You will also get the standings, half the lp (ill give you the lp back in isk), and isk for your trouble. I'm not quite sure exactly how long it would take but I can certainly make it worth your while.
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jm20 posted:However long it takes for me to get to 6.67 . You will also get the standings, half the lp (ill give you the lp back in isk), and isk for your trouble. I'm not quite sure exactly how long it would take but I can certainly make it worth your while. I am totally willing to help, but I just don't have much time a night and basically wont be on this weekend at all.
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Hagop posted:Oh cool, how much do you want for the ruptures? I'm assuming from your post that you're a newbie, so nada  Eve mail Mauris Kado and I'll contract you the one I have in Jita (the other is on my gank alt in ~a place~). It's fit for cyno ganking so you'll probably want to strip and sell most of the modules. Ugh standings grind, I need to do that too. But first I gotta decide if I want to keep a market/mission alt with Miniluv in his corp history or just reroll. Probably just gonna chance it, I'm impatient and don't want to have to train all those trade skills again 
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jm20 posted:However long it takes for me to get to 6.67 . You will also get the standings, half the lp (ill give you the lp back in isk), and isk for your trouble. I'm not quite sure exactly how long it would take but I can certainly make it worth your while. Pretty sure you need faction standings, not corp standings. Good luck!
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Hagop posted:I am totally willing to help, but I just don't have much time a night and basically wont be on this weekend at all. Eve mail jm24 ingame/evegate and i will explain the details. frozenphil posted:Pretty sure you need faction standings, not corp standings. Good luck! BrokerFee % = (1 – 0.05 × BrokerRelationsSkillLevel) / 2 ^ (0.14 × FactionStanding + 0.06 × CorporationStanding) Shared mission rewards affect both corporate and faction standings 
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ChickenWing posted:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1knVqZEH8qFY0eT44nMEFwcKd3t4PbgcZeuv58SVUxsI/pub Dang I was hoping it was a different guide than that one since I already have it. And according to EFT those Daredevil fits all add up to 250mil isk. Where are the cheaper ones?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Dang I was hoping it was a different guide than that one since I already have it. And according to EFT those Daredevil fits all add up to 250mil isk. Where are the cheaper ones? LemonDrizzle posted this one earlier. I haven't used it so I can't vouch for it, but it looks like it would work, just more effort. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hRkjZHqr92CV4iXzpXLT8uWuuj0AfvTGj5yAm1NV-_c/
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Ecm kiting kestrel
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Hagop posted:So I took a look at the other characters on my account. I tried eve back in like 2005 and let a collage roommate run the account for awhile after I got sucked into wow. Not to state the obvious, and you probably already know this, but don't fly what you can't afford to lose. If you're going into low sec, you will lose that ship eventually, and probably more. Especially if you try going thru a system that's virtually perma gate camped.
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Ambaire posted:Not to state the obvious, and you probably already know this, but don't fly what you can't afford to lose. If you're going into low sec, you will lose that ship eventually, and probably more. Especially if you try going thru a system that's virtually perma gate camped. How do I tell if a system is gate camped? Also is their some good all in one tool for eve. I would like a make a fit, see how much it cost to buy that fit, and get a skill plain for getting a char to the point where they can fly that fit.
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Pyfa will do most of that in that it will tell you the price as well as what skills you are missing to "sit in" the ship and online the modules (except PG/CPU skills - have to figure that out yourself). A lot of lowsec gate camps happen at highsec-lowsec border systems. You can sometimes spot them by looking at kills on the in-game map or dotlan. Example: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Heimatar#kills If you look at this and also view the map by Security, you can see that Amamake is a highsec to lowsec entry point and that a lot of nerds have died there in the past hour(?) relative to the rest of the area. The same generally holds true for nullsec and of course this won't help you spot a new or roving gate camp. It could also just mean there was a big fight in the system. But for border systems and pipe systems a gatecamp should be expected if you also see a lot of kills.
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Hagop posted:How do I tell if a system is gate camped? If you have the ability, I know it may be a bit early on for you, but get an alt in a throw away frigate to scout a jump or two ahead if you're moving something you "can't afford to lose".
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Hagop posted:How do I tell if a system is gate camped? The map , dotlan, and killboards seem to display gates within the killmails themselves.
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Hagop posted:How do I tell if a system is gate camped? This:  Find any fit on zkill you might want to import.  Click on the Meta tab  Pick the export option that works best for you, use 'EFT' under 'Lossy Formats' at the bottom (works for Pyfa as well)  Copy.  Paste  Note- the green skill book icon on the top right- Yay! I can fly this.  Note- the red skill book icon on the top right- gently caress! I'm missing skills. BAM. If you have a character API for Pyfa (it just wants character sheet) it will tell you if any of the fits are unusable, the price of the fit is on the bottom right, and you can use CREST to export a fit you like directly to the game client, then open it in Jita and push 'Buy All'. Xolve fucked around with this message at 02:37 on May 21, 2016 |
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So, for my miner, this is looking like my goal fit. I'm out in null, I get the occasional red and want to be able to keep them on me while allies come out and also deal with rats. The main concern I have is the 2x invul and 1x em field, is there any other combination that would result in a bigger tank? Thanks. [Skiff] Mining Laser Upgrade II Mining Laser Upgrade II Damage Control II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Warp Scrambler II Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier EM Ward Field II Modulated Strip Miner II Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Medium Core Defense Field Extender I Warrior II x5 Acolyte II x5 Infiltrator II x5
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Cool thanks for all the info everyone. Also people who ask me to eve mail them, I have mailed you.
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FranktheBank posted:Fitting stuff Only thing I could think of to increase the tank on that would probably just be T2 rigs honestly. Otherwise, this is what I've always used when I use Skiffs, which has a disruptor along with the scram instead of an EM Ward and DDAs instead of Mining Laser Upgrades, but the EM Ward might be a better choice over a disruptor anyway.  
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FranktheBank posted:So, for my miner, this is looking like my goal fit. I'm out in null, I get the occasional red and want to be able to keep them on me while allies come out and also deal with rats. The main concern I have is the 2x invul and 1x em field, is there any other combination that would result in a bigger tank? Thanks. The Skiff is a good deal ship all around for mining and tank in Null, however if you wanted to replace a Mining Upgrade with a Power Diagnostic II, that would beef your buffer tank as well as your passive regen, which is usually key for a Skiff, especially if you're trying to keep them on you. Up to you, if mining ability is worth more than survivability, and even then its only in the margins. Just remember to always stay passive aligned and warp as soon as local pops a neut. Rhadimanthius64 fucked around with this message at 05:29 on May 21, 2016 |
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Xolve posted:Stuff You can export directly to EFT and other formats from zkillboard. It's literally the next option to the right in that first screenshot.
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nessin posted:You can export directly to EFT and other formats from zkillboard. It's literally the next option to the right in that first screenshot. Oh drat, I've been doing it the other way forever.
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Tried my first burner mission tonight, lost my first burner frigate. Tried the inexpensive Angel Burner fit from one of the guides posted in here, got unlucky with a reload and ended up burning out my launchers trying to break back through the little bastard's tank. Might have been OK if I hadn't gone full  and forgotten to put nanite paste in my cargo hold. The extra 200mm AC to fill out the highs was mostly for looks, I don't think it ever landed a shot even with all 3 webs. code:
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