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gret posted:They make it sound like they had the funding ready, and there was an article I read about how Chevy/Honda were ready to throw in free engines. I guess I don't know whether any of that was true. If any of it were true, they would have got one of Dale's cars or the Stefan Wilson ride. There were vehicles, and no-one did a deal with them,
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Dudley posted:If any of it were true, they would have got one of Dale's cars or the Stefan Wilson ride. There were vehicles, and no-one did a deal with them, I guess maybe it was just Chevy who offered them free engines. If that were the case, they had to find a Chevy team to work with them.
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RLL's got some work to do. https://twitter.com/RLLracing/status/733021112104144896
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Looks like Penske started emptying some sandbags, Power to P3 with a 227.7. Still no Chevrolets in the top 6 on no-tow laps, though.
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http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/129658-indy-500-an-end-to-spec-racing-in-2017quote:In a conversation with RACER on Tuesday at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, IndyCar President of Competition Jay Frye revealed the series has started to evaluate its spec Dallara DW12 chassis for areas that could be opened up for teams to control.
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Looks like we've got our first engine expiration. Honda in Aleshin's car seems to have gone.
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Aleshin popped an engine, Josef now has the fastest no-tow at 224.5.
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http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/129658-indy-500-an-end-to-spec-racing-in-2017quote:The era of spec Indy cars could be coming to an end. In a conversation with RACER on Tuesday at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, IndyCar President of Competition Jay Frye revealed the series has started to evaluate its spec Dallara DW12 chassis for areas that could be opened up for teams to control. Daddy likes.
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I like that so much I was tempted to link it again. Must not get hopes up!
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wicka posted:it's just dumb to announce yourself as the first all-female team and apparently not be aware of what it's going to look like if you fail to make the race. keep your plans under wraps until you've got a car.
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Lord Crapulus posted:I like that so much I was tempted to link it again. Must not get hopes up! I'm so used to having my hopes raised and subsequently crushed that I don't even bother attempting to try to keep my hopes down. Just go with the flow~~~
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WindyMan posted:http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/129658-indy-500-an-end-to-spec-racing-in-2017 Frye was on trackside last night and kept hinting about the possibility of a 3rd OEM, what it would take, etc He was vague about it, but it sounded like someone's interested and that may have been the terms.
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3rd OEM for engines? Why would an engine manufacturer care about who builds the brakes, suspension arms, etc? Honda and Chevy are pretty firm on limiting their investment on the engine side, and they are the ones running the engine rules concerning the limiting of development and engine mileage, not IndyCar. 3rd engine builder isn't gonna happen, although axing aerokits would make it more possible. It still wont happen.
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I like what Frye has to say, but I don't see anyone else entering at this stage. Wasn't drawing in outside manufacturers (like General Dynamics) the original goal of the Aerokits?
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Was there ever a writeup as to why the Lotus-Judds were so awful? Aside from money, of course.
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Human Grand Prix posted:I like what Frye has to say, but I don't see anyone else entering at this stage. Wasn't drawing in outside manufacturers (like General Dynamics) the original goal of the Aerokits? not really feasible unless someone enters an engine without an accompanying aerokit
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Human Grand Prix posted:Was there ever a writeup as to why the Lotus-Judds were so awful? Aside from money, of course. Money. They weren't THAT far off at the first race, about a second off the pole with really mediocre teams and ahead of like 5-6 Hondas and Chevys, but if I remember reading right, they never got a single dollar of development money after the first race. Judd put some of his own money in to release an updated spec later in the year, but never got paid by Lotus for it. By Indy, all the teams had also realized they weren't going to get the money Lotus promised them, and petitioned the series to get out of their engine deals. There was plenty to work with there if someone had the cash to back Judd again, but nobody came along. By now, it's probably not worth much.
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i had competely forgotten about the Lotus era of 'put our badge on everything and never pay anyone'
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To this day I don't see why Indycar thought it was a better idea to have two cars start and park instead of just letting them boost the Lotus until it blew up.
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WindyMan posted:http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/129658-indy-500-an-end-to-spec-racing-in-2017 Transition year #11
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Pagenaud running with one low drag sidepod on the right and one winglet on the left.  Looks like our first taste of qual sims.
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So maybe Hondas are just that fast.
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I think most people are saving qual sims for the boost increase on Friday, just because the torque curve and everything impacts the aero and damper setup, but there is def some playing going on with the aero with Penske. Helio has been out with 3 different sets of aero devices on the car so far, but looks to mostly be working in traffic. That and Penske is currently 1-2 on the no tow.
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gret posted:So maybe Hondas are just that fast. The Bowties seem to be finding something, though; the only no-tows over 225 right now are Power and JPM.
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Qual sim on the 98, 4 laps at 224.5 e: the 41 has consistently been one of the slowest cars every day. They really seem to be struggling. e2: qual sim on the 8 with the low drag sidepods, 224.583 but he had his handsfull Cygni fucked around with this message at 21:09 on May 19, 2016 |
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Nother honda bites the dust. RHR go boom.
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Rossi's new paint scheme looks like it was heavily cribbed from the early 90's Canon/Camel Williams F1. Airbox/engine cover is white, main body color is blue, white on the wings.
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Wonder if they're trying out parts from Townsend's car on it?
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Bentai posted:Rossi's new paint scheme looks like it was heavily cribbed from the early 90's Canon/Camel Williams F1. Airbox/engine cover is white, main body color is blue, white on the wings. Its the inverse of the yellow and blue on Marco's scheme, the white were just unwrapped parts. Rumor is that it will be Sunoco sponsorship, but i'm personally pulling for Hellmans/Best Foods cause Rossi is a bit of a mayo boy. https://twitter.com/FollowAndretti/status/733386087733821441
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go3 posted:Hellmans is garbage and I can't cheer for anyone supporting it Best Foods is alright though
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So there's no mayo sponsored car after all? Way to alienate the primarily Midwestern fan base.
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George Zimmer posted:So there's no mayo sponsored car after all? Way to alienate the primarily Midwestern fan base. do you think Rossi even knows what Napa is? he strikes me as the type of dude who would never sully himself with work of that type  dude looks like hes afraid to even be there. someone tell him Napa is an elite form of european cheese or something, that should get him interested again Cygni fucked around with this message at 16:45 on May 20, 2016 |
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Cygni posted:229.8 no tow from Townsend I wish they'd run this boost all month.
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Cygni posted:do you think Rossi even knows what Napa is? he strikes me as the type of dude who would never sully himself with work of that type
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