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Tuxedo Catfish
Mar 17, 2007

You've got guts! Come to my village, I'll buy you lunch.
The Last Temptation of Christ.

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Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

cheerfullydrab posted:

A River Runs Through It.

Great recommendation of an unjustly forgotten film.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]

computer parts posted:

Lee Daniels' The Butler is good at this.
Great

HP Hovercraft posted:

East of Eden
Excellent

Samuel Clemens posted:

Life as a House
I regret watching this

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Terrorist Fistbump posted:

Great recommendation of an unjustly forgotten film.

He asked for a movie with a wayward son/brother, and A River Runs Through It has both! Same person, but he's both!

Also it is very, very good.

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

cheerfullydrab posted:

He asked for a movie with a wayward son/brother, and A River Runs Through It has both! Same person, but he's both!

Also it is very, very good.

I haven't seen it in years, but I do remember that it's got a great young Brad Pitt performance and absolutely beautiful nature cinematography.

Thirsty Girl
Dec 5, 2015

The Field

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
Okay so! I'm finishing my junior year in a film/animation program at Some College right now, and so I'm starting to think about my thesis film a lot the past couple weeks. Right now I'm leaning toward making a film that's visually dense and off-kilter in a way that's similar to The Shining, but shorter and a cartoon with jokes and almost certainly not as good, and I've been studying the movie and thinking about what I'm doing a lot in relation to it, but I'm also very aware that studying Just One Thing is also going to severely limit my visual vocabulary and style of thinking, and probably make the movie suffer.

SO my question is, what movies would you recommend that are visually dense and/or relay a lot of untold and bizarre visual information in a way that is similar to the shining? I'd also welcome any other distinctly "weird" movies or books on filmmaking/specific films that you think could be useful. (ps thank you)

E: in the spirit of the thread I also recommend the movies Duel and Happy Feet 2, for general purposes, Ishtar if you've got the right temperment

FunkyAl fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Apr 29, 2016

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

FunkyAl posted:

Okay so! I'm finishing my junior year in a film/animation program at Some College right now, and so I'm starting to think about my thesis film a lot the past couple weeks. Right now I'm leaning toward making a film that's visually dense and off-kilter in a way that's similar to The Shining, but shorter and a cartoon with jokes and almost certainly not as good, and I've been studying the movie and thinking about what I'm doing a lot in relation to it, but I'm also very aware that studying Just One Thing is also going to severely limit my visual vocabulary and style of thinking, and probably make the movie suffer.

SO my question is, what movies would you recommend that are visually dense and/or relay a lot of untold and bizarre visual information in a way that is similar to the shining? I'd also welcome any other distinctly "weird" movies or books on filmmaking/specific films that you think could be useful. (ps thank you)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Jodorowsky

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Blue Velvet and The Long Goodbye, depending on the precise direction you want to take it.

Thirsty Girl
Dec 5, 2015

FunkyAl posted:

Okay so! I'm finishing my junior year in a film/animation program at Some College right now, and so I'm starting to think about my thesis film a lot the past couple weeks. Right now I'm leaning toward making a film that's visually dense and off-kilter in a way that's similar to The Shining, but shorter and a cartoon with jokes and almost certainly not as good, and I've been studying the movie and thinking about what I'm doing a lot in relation to it, but I'm also very aware that studying Just One Thing is also going to severely limit my visual vocabulary and style of thinking, and probably make the movie suffer.

SO my question is, what movies would you recommend that are visually dense and/or relay a lot of untold and bizarre visual information in a way that is similar to the shining? I'd also welcome any other distinctly "weird" movies or books on filmmaking/specific films that you think could be useful. (ps thank you)

E: in the spirit of the thread I also recommend the movies Duel and Happy Feet 2, for general purposes, Ishtar if you've got the right temperment

The Zellner Brothers made small movies and I think looking at some thrift store kitsch in a no-budget comedy might be a good balance to out-and-out surrealist bizarro stuff like Jodorowsky.

Plastic Utopia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Azz9raDRY10

Kid-Thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eufa2nTS8o

Thirsty Girl fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Apr 29, 2016

Radio Spiricom
Aug 17, 2009

FunkyAl posted:

SO my question is, what movies would you recommend that are visually dense and/or relay a lot of untold and bizarre visual information in a way that is similar to the shining? I'd also welcome any other distinctly "weird" movies or books on filmmaking/specific films that you think could be useful. (ps thank you)

blue velvet has already been mentioned but most other lynch, especially eraserhead and inland empire. eraserhead's influence on the shining can't really be overstated, imo, kubrick screened it for the cast and crew to "put them in the mood".

uhh my other recommendations would be german expressionism in general (too many to mention), jacques tati (playtime in particular), carnival of souls, eyes without a face, last year at marienbad, antonioni's "quartet" of l'avventura/la notte/l'eclisse/red desert, 8 1/2, persona, 3 women, the double life of veronique, safe, end of evangelion, in general anything by: andrei tarkovsky, david cronenberg, guy maddin, peter greenaway, julio medem, raul ruiz, and satoshi kon. idk there's lots more, this is barely scratching the surface but i want to keep it short

the "definitive" books on "weird"/cult cinema are midnight movies by j. hoberman and jonathan rosenbaum and film as a subversive art by amos vogel

Radio Spiricom fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Apr 29, 2016

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747
I'm gonna second the gently caress out of End of Evangelion there. "Untold and bizarre visual information" is that movie's primary thing, pretty much.

Secret Agent X23
May 11, 2005

Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore.

FunkyAl posted:


SO my question is, what movies would you recommend that are visually dense and/or relay a lot of untold and bizarre visual information in a way that is similar to the shining? I'd also welcome any other distinctly "weird" movies or books on filmmaking/specific films that you think could be useful. (ps thank you)

E: in the spirit of the thread I also recommend the movies Duel and Happy Feet 2, for general purposes, Ishtar if you've got the right temperment

I hate to be so unoriginal as to second or third a recommendation that's already been made, but yes, Lynch. You could do a lot worse than to study a filmmaker who can make a loving ceiling fan look foreboding.

Also, maybe some Hitchcock. Psycho and/or Vertigo in particular come to mind. And Rear Window. German expressionism was mentioned earlier, and Hitchcock was heavily influenced by it.

Radio Spiricom also mentioned Cronenberg. In view of the nature of the question, you might want to look for a couple of his very early films, Stereo and Crimes of the Future. Also seconding the rec for Tarkovsky.

Bergman. Persona, Hour of the Wolf, The Seventh Seal, Wild Strawberries.

If you want to go all experimental and poo poo (and the aforementioned Cronenbergs fit that description even if I'm inclined to think he did them the way he did mainly because of budgetary considerations), the short films of Maya Deren (Meshes of the Afternoon).

Also, I love the hell out of Last Year at Marienbad.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Teflon Don posted:

I'm looking for any films featuring conflict between a father/male figure and a wayward son/brother, a la American History X

The Empire Strikes Back

FunkyAl posted:

Okay so! I'm finishing my junior year in a film/animation program at Some College right now, and so I'm starting to think about my thesis film a lot the past couple weeks. Right now I'm leaning toward making a film that's visually dense and off-kilter in a way that's similar to The Shining, but shorter and a cartoon with jokes and almost certainly not as good, and I've been studying the movie and thinking about what I'm doing a lot in relation to it, but I'm also very aware that studying Just One Thing is also going to severely limit my visual vocabulary and style of thinking, and probably make the movie suffer.

SO my question is, what movies would you recommend that are visually dense and/or relay a lot of untold and bizarre visual information in a way that is similar to the shining? I'd also welcome any other distinctly "weird" movies or books on filmmaking/specific films that you think could be useful. (ps thank you)

E: in the spirit of the thread I also recommend the movies Duel and Happy Feet 2, for general purposes, Ishtar if you've got the right temperment


Hausu (1977)

I Before E fucked around with this message at 15:49 on May 1, 2016

FunkyAl
Mar 28, 2010

Your vitals soar.
Hey Thanks for all the recs guys! I actually saw Mullholland Dr. for the second time last weekend, I'll watch blue velvet soon. Also watched this weekend: Akira Kurosawa's Dreams, would "recommend"

Teflon Don posted:

I'm looking for any films featuring conflict between a father/male figure and a wayward son/brother, a la American History X

The Rugrats Movie, once again Happy Feet OR Happy Feet 2, possibly Nebraska

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

FunkyAl posted:

Okay so! I'm finishing my junior year in a film/animation program at Some College right now, and so I'm starting to think about my thesis film a lot the past couple weeks. Right now I'm leaning toward making a film that's visually dense and off-kilter in a way that's similar to The Shining, but shorter and a cartoon with jokes and almost certainly not as good, and I've been studying the movie and thinking about what I'm doing a lot in relation to it, but I'm also very aware that studying Just One Thing is also going to severely limit my visual vocabulary and style of thinking, and probably make the movie suffer.

SO my question is, what movies would you recommend that are visually dense and/or relay a lot of untold and bizarre visual information in a way that is similar to the shining? I'd also welcome any other distinctly "weird" movies or books on filmmaking/specific films that you think could be useful. (ps thank you)

E: in the spirit of the thread I also recommend the movies Duel and Happy Feet 2, for general purposes, Ishtar if you've got the right temperment

What is the story you want to tell with your movie?

quote:

similar to The Shining, but shorter and a cartoon with jokes
What.


Maybe watch Following, by Christopher Nolan. Not really similar to The Shining which was a big budget horror/suspense film - but the main character is a writer, like Jack Torrance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q8bBAKNSA8

Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 01:14 on May 4, 2016

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

I'm looking for documentaries about, or reasonably faithful period pieces set in, ancient or at least pre-colonial Africa. Pharaonic Egypt or Carthage would be fine, but farther south would be better.

Bongo Bill fucked around with this message at 08:21 on May 10, 2016

rivetz
Sep 22, 2000


Soiled Meat
This might be a stupid/worthless question because it ultimately just boils down to personal taste, but here goes: my kitchen sink faces away from the screen and I'm on the prowl for movies I haven't thought of that play well with audio-only. Court cases, arguments, or any stuff that's like broad character study(ies) primarily through dialogue. Maybe it's better described as low-action, high talky mainstream drama. I'm interested more in revisiting semi-"classics" i.e. crowd-pleasing mainstream stuff. Glengarry, Few Good Men, Spotlight are all recent listens I've enjoyed, repeat views where I'm familiar enough with the movie and the plot that I don't have to be watching but can still be entertained and get something good out of the script and the dialogue. Tarantino is of course always good (for me) for listening to good actors chewing on good evocative dialogue that communicates a character well.

Is this a stupid question because it comes down to whatever poo poo I personally enjoy? I feel like I'm missing some obvious films in a similar vein. No bad suggestions, what do you find fun to listen to?

Teflon Don posted:

I'm looking for any films featuring conflict between a father/male figure and a wayward son/brother, a la American History X
If you can find it, "American Heart" is an interesting one. It's predictable and wasn't well-received but it's stuck with me, mainly because of Jeff Bridges' excellent performance. There's also "He Got Game."

rivetz fucked around with this message at 04:29 on May 18, 2016

Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Based on your description, it sounds like you might enjoy film adaptations of dialogue-heavy stage plays. Check out Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf and Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead.

Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

rivetz posted:

Is this a stupid question because it comes down to whatever poo poo I personally enjoy? I feel like I'm missing some obvious films in a similar vein. No bad suggestions, what do you find fun to listen to?

Films that also utilize a fair amount of narration are also good for this, e.g. "Fight Club", "Casino", "Goodfellas", "American Psycho". And like the other poster said, film adaptations of plays are a great idea. Check out Dustin Hoffman's "Death of a Salesman".

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     

rivetz posted:

This might be a stupid/worthless question because it ultimately just boils down to personal taste, but here goes: my kitchen sink faces away from the screen and I'm on the prowl for movies I haven't thought of that play well with audio-only. Court cases, arguments, or any stuff that's like broad character study(ies) primarily through dialogue. Maybe it's better described as low-action, high talky mainstream drama. I'm interested more in revisiting semi-"classics" i.e. crowd-pleasing mainstream stuff. Glengarry, Few Good Men, Spotlight are all recent listens I've enjoyed, repeat views where I'm familiar enough with the movie and the plot that I don't have to be watching but can still be entertained and get something good out of the script and the dialogue. Tarantino is of course always good (for me) for listening to good actors chewing on good evocative dialogue that communicates a character well.


Any movies you've seen already that you like.

Radio Spiricom
Aug 17, 2009

rivetz posted:

This might be a stupid/worthless question because it ultimately just boils down to personal taste, but here goes: my kitchen sink faces away from the screen and I'm on the prowl for movies I haven't thought of that play well with audio-only. Court cases, arguments, or any stuff that's like broad character study(ies) primarily through dialogue. Maybe it's better described as low-action, high talky mainstream drama. I'm interested more in revisiting semi-"classics" i.e. crowd-pleasing mainstream stuff. Glengarry, Few Good Men, Spotlight are all recent listens I've enjoyed, repeat views where I'm familiar enough with the movie and the plot that I don't have to be watching but can still be entertained and get something good out of the script and the dialogue. Tarantino is of course always good (for me) for listening to good actors chewing on good evocative dialogue that communicates a character well.

Is this a stupid question because it comes down to whatever poo poo I personally enjoy? I feel like I'm missing some obvious films in a similar vein. No bad suggestions, what do you find fun to listen to?

anything written by ben hecht, charles lederer, billy wilder, jules furthman, william faulkner, or leigh brackett

Radio Spiricom fucked around with this message at 18:25 on May 18, 2016

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



Can anyone reccomend some of the best movies along the lines of the Lethal Weapon series, the Death Wish series, and Tango and Cash? I love those somewhat goofy action movies.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
Cobra or Commando if you haven't. Or basically anything Schwarzeneggar did between '82 and '94. Action Jackson with Carl Weathers is underseen and great.

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     

Kvlt! posted:

Can anyone reccomend some of the best movies along the lines of the Lethal Weapon series, the Death Wish series, and Tango and Cash? I love those somewhat goofy action movies.

Beverly Hills Cop
48 Hours

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Kvlt! posted:

Can anyone reccomend some of the best movies along the lines of the Lethal Weapon series, the Death Wish series, and Tango and Cash? I love those somewhat goofy action movies.

I Come in Peace, Lionheart, Nemesis, Hard Target, Showdown in Little Tokyo, Men of War, Shakedown, Guaranteed On Delivery a/k/a G.O.D.

Humbug Scoolbus fucked around with this message at 20:15 on May 20, 2016

Big Bad Voodoo Lou
Jan 1, 2006

Kvlt! posted:

Can anyone reccomend some of the best movies along the lines of the Lethal Weapon series, the Death Wish series, and Tango and Cash? I love those somewhat goofy action movies.

Die Hard, of course
The Last Boy Scout
The Long Kiss Goodnight
Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang
Beverly Hills Cop
Face/Off
Hard Target
Big Trouble in Little China
Streets of Fire
Total Recall (my favorite Arnold movie)
Robocop (the original)
The Killer
Hard Boiled
The Professional
Bloodsport

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Humbug Scoolbus posted:

I Come in Peace, Lionheart, Nemesis, Hard Target, Showdown in Little Tokyo, Men of War, Shakedown, Guaranteed On Delivery a/k/a G.O.D.

Nemesis is so goddamn fun. I wish it was better known, because it's probably the highlight of Pyun's career.

Radio Spiricom
Aug 17, 2009

Kvlt! posted:

Can anyone reccomend some of the best movies along the lines of the Lethal Weapon series, the Death Wish series, and Tango and Cash? I love those somewhat goofy action movies.

-you have gotten shamefully few recommendations for steven seagal. let me fix that: watch out for justice.
-anything starring seagal, van damme, chuck norris, dolph lundgren, stallone, idk like the whole cast of the expendables probably, all the stuff they did pre-dtv is great.
-most anything produced by the cannon group/golan globus.
-all other shane black (but most of the major ones have been mentioned already)
-you've already gotten some walter hill recs but the driver, and the warriors (if you somehow haven't seen it)
-most of the non-horror carpenters. they live, and escape from new york in particular.
-stuff directed by johnnie to, john mctiernan, peter hyams, tony scott, albert pyun, jaume collet-serra
-rolling thunder, point break, road house, stone cold, crank and high voltage, hell comes to frogtown, riki-oh

Radio Spiricom fucked around with this message at 05:27 on May 21, 2016

monkey
Jan 20, 2004

by zen death robot
Yams Fan

FunkyAl posted:

SO my question is, what movies would you recommend that are visually dense and/or relay a lot of untold and bizarre visual information in a way that is similar to the shining? I'd also welcome any other distinctly "weird" movies or books on filmmaking/specific films that you think could be useful. (ps thank you)

Not similar to the Shining, but considering your project and the rest of your request I'd recommend Terry Gilliam's Brazil, or even Tideland.

Bloodshit
Mar 31, 2016

by zen death robot
I'm looking for movies like The Man from Nowhere, where a mysterious, highly gifted, partially employed young man, underestimated by his family and peers, saves a little girl's life and gets rewarded by major league hugs and thank yous.

Kvlt!
May 19, 2012



You guys rock, thanks for all the awesome suggestions. Think I might dive into the Seagal movies today.

hiddenmovement
Sep 29, 2011

"Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."

rivetz posted:

This might be a stupid/worthless question because it ultimately just boils down to personal taste, but here goes: my kitchen sink faces away from the screen and I'm on the prowl for movies I haven't thought of that play well with audio-only. Court cases, arguments, or any stuff that's like broad character study(ies) primarily through dialogue. Maybe it's better described as low-action, high talky mainstream drama. I'm interested more in revisiting semi-"classics" i.e. crowd-pleasing mainstream stuff. Glengarry, Few Good Men, Spotlight are all recent listens I've enjoyed, repeat views where I'm familiar enough with the movie and the plot that I don't have to be watching but can still be entertained and get something good out of the script and the dialogue. Tarantino is of course always good (for me) for listening to good actors chewing on good evocative dialogue that communicates a character well.

Is this a stupid question because it comes down to whatever poo poo I personally enjoy? I feel like I'm missing some obvious films in a similar vein. No bad suggestions, what do you find fun to listen to?
If you can find it, "American Heart" is an interesting one. It's predictable and wasn't well-received but it's stuck with me, mainly because of Jeff Bridges' excellent performance. There's also "He Got Game."

This is no way intended to be smug or condescending, but audiobooks and podcasts kick all kinds of arse for when I'm doing stuff about the house.

Punch Drunk Drewsky
Jul 22, 2008

No one can stop the movies.

Teflon Don posted:

I'm looking for any films featuring conflict between a father/male figure and a wayward son/brother, a la American History X

My heart goes out to A Bronx Tale and its terrible, terrible cover / poster art, but it's wonderful for this. A ton of Spike Lee's films deal with this too with Jungle Fever, Get on the Bus, He Got Game, and Red Hook Summer immediately coming to mind.

FunkyAl posted:

SO my question is, what movies would you recommend that are visually dense and/or relay a lot of untold and bizarre visual information in a way that is similar to the shining? I'd also welcome any other distinctly "weird" movies or books on filmmaking/specific films that you think could be useful. (ps thank you)

If you haven't, you should watch Upstream Color immediately. The specific technique isn't in the same zip code as Kubrick's work, but in terms of a fusion of visual density and sound editing it's about as close a comparison as I can think of (aside from, of course, Lynch). For something more recent I heartily recommend The Midnight Swim, and to keep the Spike Lee train rolling I thought the insane fustercluck that was Da Sweet Blood of Jesus was one of his most visually rich and tonally bizarre movies recently. It shares some DNA with The Shining with a "man going mad in solitude", but DSBoJ is its own unique weirdo after that.

Oliver Reed
Mar 18, 2014

Looking for "religious" horror movies...stuff where the villains are priests, nuns, members of cults, etc. etc.

EDIT: I should clarify...I'm looking for films where the villains believe they are "good" or doing the right thing, as opposed to outwardly, malevolent demons with horns or something.

Schweinhund
Oct 23, 2004

:derp:   :kayak:                                     
Red State

Mr Shiny Pants
Nov 12, 2012

Oliver Reed posted:

Looking for "religious" horror movies...stuff where the villains are priests, nuns, members of cults, etc. etc.

EDIT: I should clarify...I'm looking for films where the villains believe they are "good" or doing the right thing, as opposed to outwardly, malevolent demons with horns or something.

Spotlight

Punch Drunk Drewsky
Jul 22, 2008

No one can stop the movies.

Oliver Reed posted:

Looking for "religious" horror movies...stuff where the villains are priests, nuns, members of cults, etc. etc.

EDIT: I should clarify...I'm looking for films where the villains believe they are "good" or doing the right thing, as opposed to outwardly, malevolent demons with horns or something.

Martyrs is spectacular, and after a brief search I should clarify I'm speaking of the 2008 original and not the 2016 remake I learned of minutes ago.

fishtobaskets
Feb 22, 2007

It's not about butthole pleasures
Lipstick Apathy

Oliver Reed posted:

Looking for "religious" horror movies...stuff where the villains are priests, nuns, members of cults, etc. etc.

EDIT: I should clarify...I'm looking for films where the villains believe they are "good" or doing the right thing, as opposed to outwardly, malevolent demons with horns or something.

The Wicker Man (1973)
The Night of the Hunter

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Oliver Reed
Mar 18, 2014

Good suggestions so far but I've seen all of those! Anything more obscure?

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