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The unsullied thread just had about thirty pages of discussion mostly about dual wielding.
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May 21, 2016 20:03
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i wish someone would dual wield shotguns and shoot your brains out
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May 21, 2016 20:06
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Dual weilding does happen, but not with two two-handed swords. Even if those were light, and pefectly balanced, and you were ambidextrous, it would be unweildly and get you killed against five people in real life. I am not a weapons nerd, but my understanding is daggers, knives, parrying knives, were the things people used. Nobody in history who wasn't shitfaced drunk and already victorious walked onto a battlefield swinging two zweihanders around. In the east, I legitimately do not know.
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May 21, 2016 20:07
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drunken officeparty posted:Is there any historical precedent whatsoever of anyone actually dual wielding? I mean in the entire history of the world, someone somewhere at some time must have dual wielded swords in an actual battle. The dude in the video explains that while not very common, its definitely a thing in history. He also gives several examples of it. hemophilia posted:Dual weilding does happen, but not with two two-handed swords. Even if those were light, and pefectly balanced, and you were ambidextrous, it would be unweildly and get you killed against five people in real life. The dude in the video also talks about how this is bullshit. The swords are perfectly fine, the situation for it is perfectly fine and the idea of being "ambidextrous" is dumb.
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May 21, 2016 20:07
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hemophilia posted:Dual weilding does happen, but not with two two-handed swords. Even if those were light, and pefectly balanced, and you were ambidextrous, it would be unweildly and get you killed against five people in real life. 
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May 21, 2016 20:14
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So maybe we can talk about, you know, spoilers. This the first week with no leak?
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May 21, 2016 20:57
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I think if this season were better it would be a more bigger subject but this season meh
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May 21, 2016 21:02
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The Dave posted:So maybe we can talk about, you know, spoilers. This the first week with no leak? The leaks last week were fake, so there werent really leaks then either.
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May 21, 2016 21:07
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The spanish guy who leaked the first episodes is going to show up as one of the flayed guys out of winterfel in ep 9
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May 21, 2016 21:10
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Someone always talks
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May 21, 2016 21:42
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Elias_Maluco posted:The spanish guy who leaked the first episodes is going to show up as one of the flayed guys out of winterfel in ep 9 Having learned what rhymes with 'leak.'
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May 21, 2016 21:46
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The greatest dual wielder ever was the legend of gin alley Karl Tanner
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May 21, 2016 22:16
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zVxTeflon posted:The greatest dual wielder ever was the legend of gin alley Karl Tanner And now he's dead.
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May 21, 2016 22:29
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zVxTeflon posted:The greatest dual wielder ever was the fookin legend of gin alley Karl Tanner
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May 21, 2016 22:30
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I still can't figure out if that's all blood spatter or if he actually got cut up a bit. Probably just blood spatter because he has invisible plot armor.
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May 21, 2016 22:54
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I still can't figure out if that's all blood spatter or if he actually got cut up a bit. Probably just blood spatter because he has invisible plot armor. The claw marks are from loving Myranda. The Ironborn couldn't touch him.
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May 21, 2016 23:00
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TheRat posted:The dude in the video explains that while not very common, its definitely a thing in history. He also gives several examples of it. sorry i've watched other swords guys talk about this and call it dumb and i've seen more swords dudes on youtube mocking dual weilding like that, than saying it's viable. The question is usually asked, 'why'? because he could have been more effective with a different kit. And i'm sorry you don't know about hand dominance.
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May 21, 2016 23:03
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In It For The Tank posted:The claw marks are from loving Myranda. The Ironborn couldn't touch him. Yeah, that's all sex blood.
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May 21, 2016 23:12
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hemophilia posted:And i'm sorry you don't know about hand dominance. The point he was making was that the notion that you have to be some mythical form of ambidextrous to dual wield is dumb. People allready dual wield when they're using a sword and buckler, but noone seems to think you need a special brain for that. He was basically saying that dual wielding was about training and nothing else. hemophilia posted:sorry i've watched other swords guys talk about this and call it dumb and i've seen more swords dudes on youtube mocking dual weilding like that, than saying it's viable. The question is usually asked, 'why'? because he could have been more effective with a different kit. Here's a shocker. Film-fights arent about being the most effective, otherwise fights would be really boring. His comments can basically be summarized as "Dual wielding wouldnt have been my choice in a fight, but it certainly works and its definitely a thing from history and I understand that they did it for artistic/narrative reasons" TheRat fucked around with this message at 23:20 on May 21, 2016 |
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May 21, 2016 23:17
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hemophilia posted:sorry i've watched other swords guys talk about this and call it dumb and i've seen more swords dudes on youtube mocking dual weilding like that, than saying it's viable. The question is usually asked, 'why'? because he could have been more effective with a different kit.
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May 21, 2016 23:19
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i dont like how his name was "sword of the morning" but he used two swords
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May 21, 2016 23:22
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weve already been over this, it was one sword that split into two like skeltor's
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May 21, 2016 23:36
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Fight Club Sandwich posted:i dont like how his name was "sword of the morning" but he used two swords In the books, Arthur Dayne is a literal sword. He hops around on his point and has a mouth on the crossguard. I don't know why D&D, those hacks, changed that. It would've been very interesting and nuanced.
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May 21, 2016 23:44
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TheRat posted:The point he was making was that the notion that you have to be some mythical form of ambidextrous to dual wield is dumb. People allready dual wield when they're using a sword and buckler, but noone seems to think you need a special brain for that. He was basically saying that dual wielding was about training and nothing else. I'm gonna take your second point first dude. This whole discussion was about the viability of this fictional swordfight. That's the perspective I'm coming from. And actually, well choreographed and realistic looking fighting looks better. John Wick bothered to remember that guns have magazines and 40-something actors are not as spry as 20-something actors, and it made it a better action movie by that merit alone. Earlier Game of Thrones action is better too. The S1 Mountain Vs. Hound fight rules. It's complete fantasy nonsense but still grounded enough to not be silly. Arthur Dane could have kicked serious rear end without using Network TV shorthand of dual weilding gigantic swords. This show has lost a lot of faith in the viewers since S1 though. So, whatever. For hand dominance, If you're not ambidextrous, you want something your offhand can use effectively with less skill. Swords take skill to use, so the youtube sword guys tell me, you can't swing it around like they're lightsabers and cleave through people. Arthur dane would have murdered everyone if he'd bothered to use a dagger in his left hand. Lycus posted:I, for one, would rather watch all the YouTube sword guys have a trial by combat over this than watch nerds argue incessantly about it on SA.
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May 22, 2016 00:01
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I think it would have been cool if they did it the way they did it in the books
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May 22, 2016 00:04
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There was a dual wielding gladiator type called Dimachaerus and the guys who practiced it were really skillful and Dayne was the coolest knight in the realm so of course he can easily dual wield those bad boys. Also I rewatched that fight today and it was great
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May 22, 2016 00:06
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I still can't figure out if that's all blood spatter or if he actually got cut up a bit. Probably just blood spatter because he has invisible plot armor. blood typically doesnt splatter in perfectly straight little lines like that
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May 22, 2016 00:07
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I've been watching through Alt Shift X's youtube videos and he puts a lot of text quotes from the books in them. It's really reaffirmed my choice not to read the books. The writing is way not for me. I much rather read summaries of everything
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May 22, 2016 00:12
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Would Arthur Dayne have won if he tri-wielded and held Dawn III in his mouth? Was tri-wielding a viable strategy in medieval times?
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May 22, 2016 00:12
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drunken officeparty posted:I much rather read summaries of everything HEH
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May 22, 2016 00:14
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Mystery Opponent posted:There was a dual wielding gladiator type called Dimachaerus and the guys who practiced it were really skillful and Dayne was the coolest knight in the realm so of course he can easily dual wield those bad boys. Also I rewatched that fight today and it was great Someone also dual-wields swords in a fight in the books, but nevermind that. Lycus fucked around with this message at 00:20 on May 22, 2016 |
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May 22, 2016 00:16
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that retired gladiator guy dual wielded in the movie Gladiator and he died to the hero maximo
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May 22, 2016 00:23
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:Would Arthur Dayne have won if he tri-wielded and held Dawn III in his mouth? Was tri-wielding a viable strategy in medieval times? I think the only one who can tri-wield would be Podrick.
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May 22, 2016 00:25
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Gannicus dual wielded and none of you dare talk smack of my main man Gannicus
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May 22, 2016 00:29
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drunken officeparty posted:I've been watching through Alt Shift X's youtube videos and he puts a lot of text quotes from the books in them. It's really reaffirmed my choice not to read the books. The writing is way not for me. I much rather read summaries of everything the books are not well written despite what people may tell you.
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May 22, 2016 00:47
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Groovelord Neato posted:the books are not well written despite what people may tell you. What's your frame of reference here? I mean, what fiction, to you, is well-written? Personally, as an avid reader with very broad tastes ranging from highly cerebral literature to guilty pleasures, GRRM is a deft stylist throughout the first three novels, with book four and five containing both his finest and his worst work at the same time. Martin is good at pointed and lively dialogue and conveying a character's emotional en mental make-up through their internal monologue. He's not so good at describing dense places like cities, big buildings and overall town layouts. He's at his best when he either focuses on details or when he's just painting with very broad strokes.
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May 22, 2016 00:52
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Groovelord Neato posted:the books are not well written despite what people may tell you. they are well written and enjoyable please  more
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May 22, 2016 01:11
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drunken officeparty posted:It's really reaffirmed my choice not to read the books. The writing is way not for me. I much rather read summaries of everything Groovelord Neato posted:the books are not well written despite what people may tell you. They're "reading for fun" books, airplane novels. At least they're better written than similar authors Crichton and (post crash) King. I like them a lot because they're fun.
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May 22, 2016 01:14
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1-800-DOCTORB posted:And now he's dead. I just realized season 8 is going to be ice harry potter flicking his wrists and leading zombie Ramsay, Stannis, and Karl Tanner into King's Landing.
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May 22, 2016 01:15
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Do you think that the White Walkers will move faster on the King's Road?
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May 22, 2016 01:16
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