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So I didn't see anyone else mention this, but the Grandmaster casting gave me an odd thought. In the next 4-ish years we are building up the MCU to take on (and probably defeat) Thanos, and be loosely based on the Infinity Gauntlet storyline. After that, in theory, several major actors could walk away, leaving vacancies in roles such as Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Hulk...whoever. My thought was, if they are looking for another major story line to build to after Infinity War, and we're getting the Grandmaster, would that open the door for a "Contest of Champions" adaptation? Would also bee a good way to have any new actors in old roles get folded in.
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There's also the fact that since the MCU is doing cosmic stuff, we could have the actual origin for Venom on screen as well.
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I believe Venom is still getting the movie where it's not connected Spider-Man or the MCU at all. Because that makes sense. EDIT: Deadline is reporting now that Michael Keaton in Spider-Man Homecoming is a done deal. X-O fucked around with this message at 03:27 on May 21, 2016 |
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May 21, 2016 03:14
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X-O posted:I believe Venom is still getting the movie where it's not connected Spider-Man or the MCU at all. Because that makes sense.
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May 21, 2016 03:28
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Kids love Venom for some reason, so they're certainly going to try to do something with him. The best thing about Hela is they totally can do her big crazy helmet.
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May 21, 2016 06:22
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twistedmentat posted:Kids love Venom for some reason, so they're certainly going to try to do something with him. He's a scary inky goop monster who has powers similar to Spidey, what's not to love?
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May 21, 2016 18:07
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The concept of Venom is interesting and there's some really neat things you can do with Venom in a Spider-Man movie. They have chosen to do none of those things.
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May 21, 2016 18:53
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I'm so glad they got Keaton after all.
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May 21, 2016 19:01
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It just seems like using the Vulture as the next Spider-Man villain will be a waste, since Vulture sucks. And Keaton would play a tremendous Norman Osborn for a Dark Reign event that ties into the MCU, even though moviegoers might be sick of Osborn.
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May 21, 2016 19:54
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Norman Osborn has been in one Spider-Man movie.
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May 21, 2016 19:57
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:It just seems like using the Vulture as the next Spider-Man villain will be a waste, since Vulture sucks. And Keaton would play a tremendous Norman Osborn for a Dark Reign event that ties into the MCU, even though moviegoers might be sick of Osborn. Harry would be the one they're sick of if that's even a real thing. twistedmentat posted:Kids love Venom for some reason He's Spider-Man, but bigger, wears black, and has that sick tongue.
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May 21, 2016 19:58
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Jamesman posted:The concept of Venom is interesting and there's some really neat things you can do with Venom in a Spider-Man movie. I like Spider-Man 3's basic idea that Venom is a reflection of Peter, both visually and thematically instead of a body builder dude. They just chose to do it in a way that was totally stupid.
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May 21, 2016 19:59
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Aphrodite posted:Norman Osborn has been in one Spider-Man movie. Willem Dafoe in Spider-Man 1 and Chris Cooper in Amazing 1?
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May 21, 2016 20:01
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Aphrodite posted:Norman Osborn has been in one Spider-Man movie. He was in three of them, wasn't he? He was in the first one, his ghost was in the second one, and then in Amazing Spider-Man 2 to show Harry how he's going to die from Plot Device Disease.
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May 21, 2016 20:01
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Yeah He was in the second Amazing Spider-man for like a minute. And the "  Avenge me.  AVENGE ME!" Cameo in Rami's 2nd.
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May 21, 2016 20:05
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He was in 3 as well.
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May 21, 2016 20:12
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Toxxupation posted:If she's being candid - and she's unusually honest, especially comparison to the rest of her acting colleagues - then McAvoy, Fassbender, and her could all be exiting the film at the same time. If the three leads on a film series (and its three main draws) all leave it simultaneously, it's gonna be real interesting to see how Singer pivots with 7. And Hugh Jackman leaving after Wolverine 3. I almost want to see all four leave just to see what the films do. If the rumors are true they're already going to have to introduce X-23 without Logan, and XM:A's going to have to really kill it with the new characters to make sequels without the big name actors possible.
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Travis343 posted:Has JMS ever written anything good Sense8 and Rising Stars
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Man, I keep forgetting JMS is a big part of Sense8. I wonder why I would forget that. 
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BrianWilly posted:Man, I keep forgetting JMS is a big part of Sense8. I wonder why I would forget that. He's just overshadowed by the Wachowskis. Same token: Chuck Austen is an executive producer and showrunner on Steven Universe. (Disclaimer: I have never watched that show but I understand it's very popular.)
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DrProsek posted:And Hugh Jackman leaving after Wolverine 3. I almost want to see all four leave just to see what the films do. If the rumors are true they're already going to have to introduce X-23 without Logan, and XM:A's going to have to really kill it with the new characters to make sequels without the big name actors possible. I kind of want to see them close the door on this X-Men universe and start over. They've made what, seven films, and about three good ones altogether? Recast everybody, reboot back to X-Men, drop some continuity. It can't be worse.
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qntm posted:I kind of want to see them close the door on this X-Men universe and start over. They've made what, seven films, and about three good ones altogether? Recast everybody, reboot back to X-Men, drop some continuity. It can't be worse. They did that one movie ago though.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Same token: Chuck Austen is an executive producer and showrunner on Steven Universe. Was, he's only credited for season 1.
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qntm posted:I kind of want to see them close the door on this X-Men universe and start over. They've made what, seven films, and about three good ones altogether? Recast everybody, reboot back to X-Men, drop some continuity. It can't be worse. Travis343 posted:They did that one movie ago though. Yeah that's the biggest reason the Singer movies are such a setback for the Fox X-Men movies; they actually had a film that prominently featured a bunch of smaller characters and better yet, no Wolverine. And then one movie later, WHOOOOPS our bad, back to the Magneto/Xavier/Wolverine/Mystique(ft Beast and Quicksilver) power hour. The best case scenario for Fox is that they delayed their reboot until all the big contracts run out, then finally do their reboot. I don't think that's what they're doing if Singer's talking X-Force and X-23 in future movies, but to be fair he can't exactly be talking "Yeah these movies are the end, we're gonna reboot this poo poo right after the next X-Men movie.
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I don't want any reboots til I get a real X-23.
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First class was about Mags/Charles. The rest were afterthoughts.
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If X-men is going to be rebooted, it really needs to be done as a TV show. X-men really needs to have some room to be as crazy as possible. But that's not happening anytime soon. Especially after Deadpool has probably given them SHARED CINEMATIC UNIVERSE aspirations. Also, on JMS, does nobody love Babylon 5 anymore? It was some hardcore nerd poo poo, but it seems forgotten in a way that even Farscape isn't. Timeless Appeal fucked around with this message at 03:10 on May 22, 2016 |
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Probably because b5 isn't on streaming services. Which is a shame, because it is great.
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Everything that wasn't magneto, Charles, and arguably mystique in first class loving sucked though. If they really truly wanted a clean break from continuity and legacy they'd do a new mutants movie as 7. Have the premiere of the next trilogy be one all about some new generation of kids assigned by Xavier, who makes a small cameo appearance at the beginning of the film, to accomplish some goal independent of magneto et al.
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Soonmot posted:Probably because b5 isn't on streaming services. Which is a shame, because it is great. It also existed before Nerds automatically accepted any genre poo poo as the best ever and built whole fan communities around it. I blame Firefly for that.
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twistedmentat posted:It also existed before Nerds automatically accepted any genre poo poo as the best ever and built whole fan communities around it. It really didn't: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rec.arts.sf.tv.babylon5.moderated
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And at the end of its third weekend, CW has now definitively beaten BvS in both domestic and foreign totals, with a $347 million domestic total, 20 million more than BvS' LTD domestic in less than half the time. It also is the first movie of the year to break a billion dollars in worldwide ticket sales, and should beat Deadpool's high-water mark for total domestic sometime this week. Keeping tabs on the box office just impresses on me how unbelievable Deadpool's performance in the box office really was. We're talking a film that made barely a hundred million dollars less than BvS, and that's off a worldwide performance that didn't include China (which might've made up the difference). In other news, Apocalypse opened with a 100 million dollar international weekend (and that's with no China). It seems to be performing very strongly overseas, but the real test will be this Friday, and to see if the near-month of critical panning (combined with this week's reviews, most of which will be negative if past is precedent) ends up scaring away Chinese audiences next Friday like they did with BvS.
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May 22, 2016 21:33
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Does the xmen franchise scare away China or whatever?
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X-Men is about an oppressed minority gaining powers.
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Does the xmen franchise scare away China or whatever? No, but BvS got really horrible reviews and subsequently ended massively underperforming in China. Like, as in, CW beat BvS' total China ticket sales...within its first weekend. Considering how much China loves American superhero movies it makes absolutely zero sense why that'd happen besides the Chinese populace being made aware that BvS sucks and deciding not to go see it.
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That doesn't make any sense, China doesn't give a poo poo about critic reviews.
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mycot posted:That doesn't make any sense, China doesn't give a poo poo about critic reviews. China only cares about whether a movie makes the central government look bad and that the movie is in IMAX and 3d.
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Aphrodite posted:X-Men is about an oppressed minority gaining powers. It's okay, they're not from Tibet. Toxxupation posted:No, but BvS got really horrible reviews and subsequently ended massively underperforming in China. I'm not entirely sure that's why it tanked, because it was weak from the get go. Opening weekend is less influenced by lovely reviews. It could be they just don't give a poo poo about Batman or Superman, but they love them some Iron Man. And Optimus Prime. Warner Brothers should have made Affleck wear the armored suit for the whole movie.
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mycot posted:That doesn't make any sense, China doesn't give a poo poo about critic reviews. There's no other (reasonable) explanation. China loves American blockbusters, even America-centric films (I mean Captain America killed over there), and loves them some superhero films. But BvS totally underperformed across the Pacific and nobody really knows why.
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Toxxupation posted:There's no other (reasonable) explanation. China loves American blockbusters, even America-centric films (I mean Captain America killed over there), and loves them some superhero films. But BvS totally underperformed across the Pacific and nobody really knows why. China is already bleak and depressing to live in, maybe they don't like bleak and depressing escapism.
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