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steinrokkan posted:You know, you would've thought the people on the Arc would have noticed the giant, continents swallowing radioactive storms prior to descending to Earth - or are we to believe that all of it happened conveniently in the few months these two past seasons span? After 100 years the spontaneous fake-science disaster ended up pretty much perfectly timed to align itself with the show's timeline? Amazing. Maybe she was being shown a vision of what's to come when they go critical? Maybe they are not that bad yet? I have no idea.
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steinrokkan posted:You know, you would've thought the people on the Arc would have noticed the giant, continents swallowing radioactive storms prior to descending to Earth - or are we to believe that all of it happened conveniently in the few months these two past seasons span? After 100 years the spontaneous fake-science disaster ended up pretty much perfectly timed to align itself with the show's timeline? Amazing. Pretty much. That or had satellites showing the sites were going critical, damaged, or whatever before they decided "hey lets shove these kids in a drop pod and see if they survive" was a good idea. The fact they doubled down and firmly canonized the timeline being only 6 months for 3 seasons means there's no way in hell ALIE is telling the truth. If she is then they hosed up horribly storytelling wise because pretty much everything stops making sense.
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May 21, 2016 22:13
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Zebulon posted:Pretty much. That or had satellites showing the sites were going critical, damaged, or whatever before they decided "hey lets shove these kids in a drop pod and see if they survive" was a good idea. The fact they doubled down and firmly canonized the timeline being only 6 months for 3 seasons means there's no way in hell ALIE is telling the truth. If she is then they hosed up horribly storytelling wise because pretty much everything stops making sense. I'm going to go with they hosed up story wise, and we should stop analyzing this show based on what makes sense. For example, crashing a giant loving space station on the ground from orbit, doesn't make sense. nothing would have survived. At all. If you're willing to suspend your disbelief for that, then everything is fair game past this point.
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May 21, 2016 22:16
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Pretty sure ALIE was showing a prediction of what is going to happen.
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May 21, 2016 23:45
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It's been 6 months since they left the Ark I think. ALIE said the meltdowns started 4 months ago.
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May 22, 2016 00:11
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Astroman posted:It's been 6 months since they left the Ark I think. ALIE said the meltdowns started 4 months ago. Season 4 finale: "Good job stopping the radioactive winds with the artefact we introduced in the previous episode! Too bad a black hole opened up on the Moon yesterday!"
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May 22, 2016 00:15
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Astroman posted:It's been 6 months since they left the Ark I think. ALIE said the meltdowns started 4 months ago. She didn't say the meltdowns started. She said the reactors started going critical. Big difference. She said that according to her calculations, in 6 months 96% of the Earth's surface would be uninhabitable - and then she showed the radiation clouds. So it was set up as a vision of the future, not the present.
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May 22, 2016 05:46
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I think it would've been cooler to see a crapload of commanders helping Clarke, not just Lexa.
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May 22, 2016 10:18
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Lycus posted:I think it would've been cooler to see a crapload of commanders helping Clarke, not just Lexa. Yeah true, there was Lexa and Becca and... that was it.
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May 22, 2016 11:37
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enraged_camel posted:She didn't say the meltdowns started. She said the reactors started going critical. Big difference. It's still really dumb. So all those nuclear reactors survived WW3, but now they're going critical all at the same time? Nuclear reactors don't turn into giant bombs when there is a meltdown. The worst nuclear accident in history is Chernobyl, and life thrives in the Chernoby exclusion zone. I wouldn't suggest building a house there, but it's definitely survivable. Hell, some modern nuclear reactors are actually designed with The Apocalypse in mind, and will automatically shut down within a week without human intervention.
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May 22, 2016 11:59
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So I take it S4 is gonna be about them traveling to the 4% survivable zone.
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May 22, 2016 12:15
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thrakkorzog posted:Nuclear reactors don't turn into giant bombs when there is a meltdown. Nobody said they do. They're simply leaking radiation, or radioactive materials into the environment. This show always plays fast and loose with nuclear power in general. Hell, the Earth was survivable for space-faring humans after merely ~97 years, if I'm remembering correctly. I'm honestly baffled that this is what folks are complaining about at this point.
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May 22, 2016 12:50
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If you didn't check out on this show over magic healing blood transfusions, you shouldn't be checking out over this.
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May 22, 2016 13:45
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Lycus posted:I think it would've been cooler to see a crapload of commanders helping Clarke, not just Lexa.  Seeing a line of them going from older, more civilized types to primitive tribals who died young with short reigns would have been a neat visual as well.
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May 22, 2016 13:59
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Spergatory posted:If you didn't check out on this show over magic healing blood transfusions, you shouldn't be checking out over this. This is true, but it also feels like this new threat requires a larger suspension of disbelief.
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May 22, 2016 14:48
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Honestly, I think this is way less egregious. Most people don't know jack poo poo about radiation or nuclear reactors, but I'm pretty sure they know a blood transfusion will not turn you from a pile of gore and burn scars into a walking, talking, clear-skinned human being in a matter of minutes.
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May 22, 2016 14:58
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Somehow I forgot about that part. Yeah, you're right.
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May 22, 2016 15:07
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Listen, techno vampires and techno demonic possession I can tolerate, but the whole "nuclear meltdown as hellstorm" trope is actually one of those things that the media does that will probably seriously screw us over as a species.
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May 22, 2016 17:20
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We should be using solar power anyway. 
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May 22, 2016 17:42
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thrakkorzog posted:It's still really dumb. So all those nuclear reactors survived WW3, but now they're going critical all at the same time? Nice meltdown.
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May 22, 2016 18:26
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I Own Soulz posted:I get the bad feeling season 4 is going to be bad. Apart from nuclear power plants not turning into swirling infernos when they melt down, it seems like this is the point where original story has run out and now that the show has been such a hit they have to make up new stuff to extend it. I hope I'm wrong though. Yea I like the plot arcs they have chosen so far but season 3 feels like the end of the original outline, hard to go bigger than what they have done unless they are really gonna unleash the gimmicks like time fuckery or space travel fuckery.
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May 22, 2016 19:37
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If by 'original story' you mean the books, the show has had nothing to do with the books aside from the very basic introductory premise. The show and the book were being written at the same time, IIRC, and went their separate ways from the start.
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May 22, 2016 19:42
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Astroman posted:
When Clarke was weakening, I was sure a big mountain of a guy was going to appear and Lexa was gonna go "Don't worry, Clarke, that's Commander So-and-so." and he was going to carry her. Have an early commander do the technobabble instead of Lexa talking about uploading and stuff.
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May 22, 2016 20:26
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Did anyone notice the big continuity problem between the Season 2 finale and this season? The last scene of the Season 2 finale showed ALIE having recovered the nuclear warhead from the missile that Jaha rode down from the Arc. It was never mentioned this season.
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May 22, 2016 20:51
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raditts posted:This is true, but it also feels like this new threat requires ftfy
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May 22, 2016 20:52
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I thought that was a warhead she had lying around after the ALIE-pocalypse, which Jaha then converted into a power source for the backpack. It was mentioned and dealt with in the first or second episode of the season.
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enraged_camel posted:Did anyone notice the big continuity problem between the Season 2 finale and this season? The last scene of the Season 2 finale showed ALIE having recovered the nuclear warhead from the missile that Jaha rode down from the Arc. It was never mentioned this season. It was made to look like she would use it to bomb something... Then she used the fissile material to fuel her mobile platform.
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hollylolly posted:I thought that was a warhead she had lying around after the ALIE-pocalypse, which Jaha then converted into a power source for the backpack. It was mentioned and dealt with in the first or second episode of the season. She thanked Jaha for his "gift," and then the camera showed the warhead. I don't think she had it lying around in storage. The backpack makes sense though. I had forgotten about that.
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Yeah, she used the warhead to power the backpack. A few episodes back when Murphy, Pike, and Inara destroyed it they hesitated because Allie warned them it was nuclear. Allie's plan wasn't to blow people up (she already did that), it was to get mobile so she could go out and bring everyone into "the City of Light". Jaha's nuke let her do that. And ultimately we find out she did that because she saw it as the necessary move to save humanity since the reactors were melting down. So it wasn't a loose thread or dropped story, it was just a curveball that went a different way than expected.
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, she used the warhead to power the backpack. A few episodes back when Murphy, Pike, and Inara destroyed it they hesitated because Allie warned them it was nuclear. Allie's plan wasn't to blow people up (she already did that), it was to get mobile so she could go out and bring everyone into "the City of Light". Jaha's nuke let her do that. And ultimately we find out she did that because she saw it as the necessary move to save humanity since the reactors were melting down. ALIE better be dead or else she is just up there in the Ark chilling with more nukes(or did Jaha ride the last one down to earth?). She will nuke the remaining 4% of untainted surface to ensure a clean slate 
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Spergatory posted:We should be using solar power anyway. Hm, solar was what allowed ALIE to survive until jaha brought the nuke so maybe that's not such a good idea after all.
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May 22, 2016 22:14
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I enjoyed the scene of Clark, Bellamy, Octavia, and Jasper sitting around twiddling their dumbs waiting for their solar powered truck to charge up.
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Welp, the nuclear plot is dumb and smells like uninformed fear mongering bullcrap. This in a time when we should be promoting nuclear power if anything. Oh well, bring on season 4!
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Batham posted:Welp, the nuclear plot is dumb and smells like uninformed fear mongering bullcrap. This in a time when we should be promoting nuclear power if anything. NO NUKES R BAD.
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May 23, 2016 00:20
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Rhyno posted:NO NUKES R BAD. But, if it means we get super mutants... 
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May 23, 2016 00:24
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Something something Under the Dome something:quote:The 100 Writers Room Retweeted
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Batham posted:But, if it means we get super mutants... I'm holding out hope for Planet of the Apes bad guys.
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Astroman posted:Something something Under the Dome something: Now someone show him the s2 finale so his mind will explode
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As a side note, the finale made me really hate Octavia. She was a total idiot who was willing to endanger the entire team for her personal agenda. It was extra infuriating because her entire growth arc since the beginning was going from selfish teenager to mature, badass warrior, and she completely regressed to her old self when she struck Pike when they were defending the window. I hope they go in a different direction with her character next season, because grieving/angry Octavia is really overdone at this point.
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It also doesn't help that Octavia gets her rear end kicked almost every fight she gets in. And it's usually not a even a close call, she loses by a landslide.
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