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The problem is that everyone is told this is a solved issue and apparently it is not. Second phase of E911 explicitly has location data as part of what's transmitted to the call center. If the data isn't being transmitted, that's the carrier's fault and they should be fined for every omission. If the data is incorrect that's transmitted to the call center, that's a carrier issue. They should be able to pass on GPS info from phones made in the last 10 years. If the handset does not have a GPS lock, then they should be able to do some form of tower assisted location. If the accuracy of such info is not consistent with what the technology is capable of, then they need to be fined. And, in fact, carriers had a deadline of 95% accuracy by 2006 and a number were fined for not hitting it. There's no reason why we can't ratchet up the percentage again and fine again. If the call center cannot receive or interpret location data, then it's an equipment issue and funds need to be allocated to resolve it. We have a standard though, it's E911. Improving the accuracy of location data needs to be thrust upon the carriers. All the call centers need to do is be able to consume it. In the end, the solution is to give the carriers a swift kick in the rear end and point at their record profits when they claim updating their networks to supply accurate location data is too expensive. Stop granting them waivers on compliance. Force them to get it done. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 18:44 on May 17, 2016 |
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bull3964 posted:Second phase of E911 explicitly has location data as part of what's transmitted to the call center. It would be neat if this was something that the device manufacturers could have a hand in fixing as well, like the way Apple supposedly pushed on carriers during the introduction of Visual Voicemail.
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Sivart13 posted:Out of curiosity, is this something you work with professionally? No, it's pretty public knowledge at this point. It was a big stink in 2005 when carriers would refuse to activate older phones on their network if they weren't E911 compatible. At the end of the day, the carriers are reaping massive profits by explicitly not having to maintain the last mile copper infrastructure. Verizon, in particular, is borderline sabotaging it in places to force people to switch to wireless or digital voice. I can't even have a traditional land line at my house because Verizon removed the copper going to it when they installed FiOS. It's digital voice or wireless. No more POTS. Basically, they broke it and they are profiting from it. It should be their financial burden to fix it.
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bull3964 posted:No, it's pretty public knowledge at this point. It was a big stink in 2005 when carriers would refuse to activate older phones on their network if they weren't E911 compatible. I'd still be using my StarTac flip phone to this day if Verizon would let me activate it.
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I think one of the biggest hurdles is the limitation of voice call transmission. Even the most modern mobile codecs still have garbage quality encoding. (Most carriers intentionally use the worst sound quality they can get away with because its cheaper for them) Because of that there is a huge technical difficulty with encoding live GPS data as sound data to pass over the line. So your choice there is essentially to make a 911 call on mobile hardware have a very low bit rate dialup connection overlayed, which requires hardware to do that on both ends. The simplest stop gap would be to incorporate SMS. Its an established standard across all the carriers. Its uniform enough that a standard piece of hardware could be made for every 911 center. All phones can simply have a software update to implement a simple rule: When you place a 911 call send a SMS with your GPS coordinates and let the carrier route it to the same call center. Wouldn't be perfect but the infrastructure and encoding standards exist to make it fairly straightforward.
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Is there a list of states that allow you to call 911 from a landline regardless of whether or not you actually have service? I don't want to call 911 just to test it, but it would be nice to know before I find myself in an emergency situation.
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M_Gargantua posted:I think one of the biggest hurdles is the limitation of voice call transmission. Even the most modern mobile codecs still have garbage quality encoding. (Most carriers intentionally use the worst sound quality they can get away with because its cheaper for them) Because of that there is a huge technical difficulty with encoding live GPS data as sound data to pass over the line. So your choice there is essentially to make a 911 call on mobile hardware have a very low bit rate dialup connection overlayed, which requires hardware to do that on both ends. Yeah. It's 2016 and I STILL have to use NATO phonetic spelling to give customers passwords over the phone because even on "top notch" VOIP call quality is just that bad. Including data (somehow) on that to a 911 center is going to need a pretty big rewire of everything, which it sounds like it needs anyway. Piggybacking SMS seems like it should work as a short term, though it'd require another generation of phones to do it. Arguably worth it until a full, nation-wide system could be rolled out (unlikely). Are other countries experiencing the same level of crap or have others figured out a good way to implement emergency services?
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swickles posted:Now is a good time for my PSA about 911 and phones. No matter where you live, but especially if you live in an apartment building, spend the ten bucks to by a landline phone. Even if you don't have service, almost all states require 911 access to be free for any phone plugged into a jack. Also, they are easily identifiable for locations. If you live alone and start choking on food or can't talk, just pick up the phone, dial 911 and start breaking dishes. That is the code for I can't talk and need help now. The point is for 10 bucks, you can avoid a lot of the pitfalls you saw on that segment.
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This is not useful if you live in a city but if you need immediate help, in rural Texas, dispatch may handle multiple cities so calling 911 goes through like two different chains and it takes that much longer to get the ambulance, which may be half a mile down the road, to your house. At that point it may literally be faster to run there and get help for someone but I know I can call my city dispatch directly and get an ambulance much faster than 911, and I've had to punch those numbers many times more than most people will in their lives. Under stress/duress and immediate danger, 911 will get you someone notified of your problem critical seconds faster, and you should always do that, but if you have a working phone in an area with reception and can get to a contact in as much time, sometimes it's better to call city dispatch
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100% Canadian
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This is the most Canadian thing to ever happen.
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Wait a minute the McLaughlin Group is still around? John McLaughlin is still ALIVE?
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Stay safe, puppy.
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I have not seen Kadyrov's cat.
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Those comments are so full of from Bernie supporters over facts like these are the vote counts it's loving great.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Wait a minute the McLaughlin Group is still around? John McLaughlin is still ALIVE? I saw an episode randomly a couple of weeks ago. It was like sitting in the recroom of a retirement home listing to a bunch of people ramble angrily. McLaughlin spent most of the episode completely unengaged and at one point clearly lost all track of what was happened because he had this exchange (paraphrased from memory) with Pat Buchanan. McLaughlin: Do you know how many transgendered people there are in America? Buchanan: About X thousand. McLaughlin: There are X thousand transgendered in America. Are you surprised? Buchana: No. That's what I said. McLaughlin: You didn't know that, did you? Then they all stared at him for a few seconds before he gave his next rehearsed transition. Also I don't remember seeing him move once and I started to wonder if he was paraplegic or just very tired. The whole thing was really just kind of depressing. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 19:07 on May 23, 2016 |
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Well at least John Oliver isn't popularizing any myths regarding the superdelegates like "of course they'll vote for the winner of the most pledged delegates even in a close race, and they're only there in case of a Trump or Edwards-like scenario." Bernie flip flopping on superdelegates is just another sign that supers are a farce. I remembered someone here earlier described LWT as a whole as an expose on how much power we arbitrarily give to the states when it comes to some things. The same is true for the national parties. I'm not for a single national primary day; but I'm talking about how the parties have like 56 different rules on how delegates are allocated to candidates. Echo Chamber fucked around with this message at 19:16 on May 23, 2016 |
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Echo Chamber posted:I'm not for a single national primary day; but I'm talking how the parties have like 56 different rules on how delegates are allocated to candidates. Single primary day wouldn't be going far enough. To hell with the primaries! Put anyone that wants to be there on the presidential ballot. Don't put party affiliation on the ballot. Axe the EC too while we're at it. Taylor Swift 2028
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I think one of the things people tend to forget is that, at least in theory, the Democratic party and the Republican party are meant to just be two out of a theoretical limitless number of parties vying for their candidates' election to office. Parties don't actually have any legislative requirements as to how they nominate their candidates, so in essence the American people in general don't really have any legal say in the primary process beyond whatever arbitrary system each party decides to implement. Primary votes sort-of matter, but not really, because the Republican and Democratic parties aren't technically government bodies or institutions.
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Popular vote for primaries, popular vote for the general.Veskit posted:Those comments are so full of from Bernie supporters over facts like these are the vote counts it's loving great. Most Bernie supporters are youth. Most Youtube commenters are youth. Bernie is losing the election. Do the math. qbert posted:I think one of the things people tend to forget is that, at least in theory, the Democratic party and the Republican party are meant to just be two out of a theoretical limitless number of parties vying for their candidates' election to office. Parties don't actually have any legislative requirements as to how they nominate their candidates, so in essence the American people in general don't really have any legal say in the primary process beyond whatever arbitrary system each party decides to implement.
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Well John did say it's up to convincing the party chairs to look into it, not any lawmaker or presidential candidate, etc.
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qbert posted:I think one of the things people tend to forget is that, at least in theory, the Democratic party and the Republican party are meant to just be two out of a theoretical limitless number of parties vying for their candidates' election to office. Parties don't actually have any legislative requirements as to how they nominate their candidates, so in essence the American people in general don't really have any legal say in the primary process beyond whatever arbitrary system each party decides to implement. The core issue is not the parties, but that the US voting system mathamatically encourages only two canidates, and hence two parties. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo explains it well. You can't beat the math in the currently established system.
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Also: Woebin fucked around with this message at 20:54 on May 23, 2016 |
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Well, he may be a monster, but he does have a point: here in America, unevenly breathe to younger friends. Not just his friends, either, but to all friends. America unevenly breathe to younger friends.
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Normally, I might say that trolling a country's president can be irresponsible, but it seems Kadyrov doesn't spend much time governing so it's kosher.
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I can see asking your constituency to look out for your cat for you as a bit of a goofy move to humanize yourself to voters. The whole sucking up to Putin is perfectly understandable for an autonomous federal subject of Russia close to the border and smaller than New Jersey. I'm sure if Obama had a reputation for brutally crushing his enemies and potentially assassinating his critics, more Republican governors would be snuggling up to him. As for the primaries, honestly, they are a messy, broken system, but introducing more oversight to try to be fair would mean making them bigger and more drawn out and more campaigning and more news coverage and having the names of people who will literally never matter to you ever again repeated ad infinitum, and I couldn't take that. If the primaries are unfairly rigged, then Hillary is in the better position to benefit from them being rigged, but if anything, this whole cycle is an argument in favor of more restrictive primaries so no idiot not-a-politician reality TV show judge can waltz right in and take everything.
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SlothfulCobra posted:If the primaries are unfairly rigged, then Hillary is in the better position to benefit from them being rigged, but if anything, this whole cycle is an argument in favor of more restrictive primaries so no idiot not-a-politician reality TV show judge can waltz right in and take everything. So you're saying that you want the political class to be more elitist and unrepresentative of the constituency than they already are?
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The stuff people have been putting in the hashtag has been glorious. A worthy waste of time.
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Web exclusive content https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcA_j23HuDU
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Uh, did they directly lift the bread pants joke from China, IL? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcrDZs2n1C8
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Nobody watched this? Man, buying debt at 1/200 of the price seems like quite a bargain. And I'm happy for those 9000 people. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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Air is lava! posted:Nobody watched this? East coast feed hosed up for me, so we've gotta catch it in an hour.
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Holy loving poo poo. John Oliver is an amazing, beautiful rat-faced man.
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END ME SCOOB posted:East coast feed hosed up for me, so we've gotta catch it in an hour. yeah my DVR recording died halfway through
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Air is lava! posted:And I'm happy for those 9000 people. 9,000 people holding 14 million in debt seems staggeringly odd to me.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:9,000 people holding 14 million in debt seems staggeringly odd to me. Why? That's only like $1550 a person.
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Yeah that's a little over 1500 in medical debt a head? That's an ER visit for a sprained ankle in the US. e;fb.
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bull3964 posted:Why? That's only like $1550 a person. Haha, I guess the reason is because I hosed up on some basic division.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:9,000 people holding 14 million in debt seems staggeringly odd to me. Huh, I made the same mistake initially.
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If John Oliver can forgive $14+ million debt by buying it up for under $60k, imagine what a wealthy philanthropist could do for half a million! ...forgive $120+ million debt. That's what they could do. Instead, they're investing in things like bitcoin technologies. ...gently caress this world
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