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Big Scary Owl posted:How viable are magic-oriented builds in this game? I'm planning on playing this after I finish DS2 and I've heard that magic isn't as good as previous games, is this true? If you're talking pvp, pyro has a couple of good damage available midgame, plus iron flesh if you want poise for a few seconds. Miracles have a couple of buffs that are handy (tears of denial is quite aptly named, sunlight oath damage buff is good for alpha strike builds). Sorceries let you do trolly things like hidden body+white and obscuring rings to pretend to be a player ghost and stab anyone you fooled, or chameleon with WoB and Fingers up and watch the souls roll in as the spirits fight each other. That said, think of your chosen magic as complementing your hitty stick, rather than replacing it. Raw rear end, Infused AGS are good here (My pyro had the latter). Alpha striking faith types also like Mornes hammer or Dragonslayer Greataxes (I've been using the latter to decent success, though the former seems better for turning ganks around). BurntCornMuffin fucked around with this message at 04:18 on May 23, 2016 |
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GulagDolls posted:i don't approve of pulling the plug in order to prevent blues from getting their ears, but i do think that hosts should not help them ever. Earn Your Ear I don't condone pulling the plug, ever. Just sharing what I find. Black crystal out is legal so I'm gonna do it anyway. But yes it's spite now (partly after farming 28 proofs of Concord and partly because gently caress it if the blue turns it into a 3 or 4 versus one)
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May 23, 2016 04:14
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Ineffiable posted:Double posting with an update. Seems like if you disconnect, the blue will not get an Concord. Confirmed by a friend. Now trying to see if anyone even got a Concord if the invader black crystals out. I can confirm that you don't get an ear if the red crystals out. You know what's great? Fighting off the red at the start of a level and having them run all the way too the end. Then after you escort the host's stupid rear end through the entire loving stage, the red crystals out in your face. Real fun.
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May 23, 2016 04:16
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The Demon's Greataxe and it's Weapon Art is amazing. Totally gonna make a vid.
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May 23, 2016 04:16
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Internet Kraken posted:I can confirm that you don't get an ear if the red crystals out. Thanks for the details, cause that's exactly what I want to do  It's your fault for being a blue in the first place. YOU DESERVE THIS
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May 23, 2016 04:22
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Ineffiable posted:I don't condone pulling the plug, ever. Just sharing what I find. Black crystal out is legal so I'm gonna do it anyway. oh ok I thought disconnect meant alt+f4. that's interesting though. I recall reading a while ago that blues did get rewards if the bad phantom returned home. maybe that was true and is no longer? or it could be dependent on the blue's actions... Internet Kraken posted:I can confirm that you don't get an ear if the red crystals out. oh or not. it seems like the blue has to have some amount of participation in order to get an ear though. Like if I get summoned as a blue and the invader dies before I see them, I don't get nothing. but I will get an ear if they die and I do some damage, even if I don't get the kill
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May 23, 2016 04:26
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So wait, if I pop on rosario's finger, seed of the giant tree, and way of the blue I can just go gently caress off with the chameleon spell and leave the game on to get levels? Do I have to keep popping giant tree seed.
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May 23, 2016 04:28
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GulagDolls posted:oh ok I thought disconnect meant alt+f4. that's interesting though. I recall reading a while ago that blues did get rewards if the bad phantom returned home. maybe that was true and is no longer? or it could be dependent on the blue's actions... Yeah it's really inconsistent. It's even possible to get an ear if you've inflicted no damage at all, you just need to be vaguely near them for some arbitrary period of time. They probably also need to be loaded into your level chunk to count too. Philosopher King posted:So wait, if I pop on rosario's finger, seed of the giant tree, and way of the blue I can just go gently caress off with the chameleon spell and leave the game on to get levels? Do I have to keep popping giant tree seed. It's Dried Fingers, but yeah. You only have to re-use a seed if you die. Invaders give gently caress-all souls though; it's not an efficient way to gain levels. It's only good if you want to help out your blue spirits (or more likely, help out the red spirits by giving them loads of Forked Tongues)
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May 23, 2016 04:29
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Jaaam posted:Most important thing: make sure you got all the slabs. I think I've only ever found two, including the one Siegward gives you. Better YOUTUBE IT UP. I've been farming souls to buy cool sets. I got Lorian's set and it looks great, if not heavy. I got the Firelink set because I linked the loving fire, and it's OK but kinda ugly. I beat Champ Gundyr on my second try and picked up both his halberd and the black knight right there in his arena. Not sure which one I should level up, because both seem neat.
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Alabaster White posted:Thanks for the details, cause that's exactly what I want to do Yeah I'm doing this any time I know I'm gonna lose, like if there's two blues or if it's already a 3vs1 and I don't have any good mobs or traps to use on them. I'd rather crystal out than give two blues a Concord. That's my guaranteed way to win by pissing off someone. I consider it some moral victory in a way.
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GulagDolls posted:oh or not. it seems like the blue has to have some amount of participation in order to get an ear though. Like if I get summoned as a blue and the invader dies before I see them, I don't get nothing. but I will get an ear if they die and I do some damage, even if I don't get the kill This seems to be the case...except when it isn't. Cause there were definitely times where I got summoned as a blue and got an ear despite never even seeing the red because they died 5 seconds after my spawning animation finished. It may simply be a mechanic that is bugged, which I'm sure would surprise absolutely no-one.
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Internet Kraken posted:I can confirm that you don't get an ear if the red crystals out. Look I'm just telling you buddy, reds like to feed off tears and salt. This is a beautiful victory for the red. I will be annoying as possible. It's part of being a dick wraith.
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May 23, 2016 04:36
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What Pyromancies deal good base damage for a melee/pyro hybrid?
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Ineffiable posted:Yeah I'm doing this any time I know I'm gonna lose, like if there's two blues or if it's already a 3vs1 and I don't have any good mobs or traps to use on them. I'd rather crystal out than give two blues a Concord. How the hell do two blues appear, anyway? Two invaders? Or cheating? Viperix posted:What Pyromancies deal good base damage for a melee/pyro hybrid? Fire Orb, Great Combustion, Chaos Fireball. They all have really low requirements too.
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May 23, 2016 04:37
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Great Chaos Fire Orb is pretty solid damage for minimal investment.
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Alabaster White posted:How the hell do two blues appear, anyway? Two invaders? Or cheating? sometimes it just brings two. just because.
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Alabaster White posted:How the hell do two blues appear, anyway? Two invaders? Or cheating? It's quite possible for blue sentinels to appear at the same time. Two blues can even appear, a minute or two apart, for one invader. You need to have free summon slots though, so it'll only happen if the host used a dried finger and only has one summon (so they have two slots free) almost fairly certain that three could happen if the host never summons anyone. That's why usually if that happens, gently caress it, crystal out. It's not worth the risk and you just got a victory of pissing off two blues.
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May 23, 2016 04:44
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No one wants to summon a mad spirit to help kill a boss. I'm just hedging my bets! If you win I get souls, if you lose I get your vertebrae
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May 23, 2016 04:49
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While we're talking about pyromancy, is there anything I can do to boost my damage once I hit the scaling cap? I'm 40/30 int/fai right now (planning on pumping int to test sorcery scaling after 50), wearing great swamp ring, witch's ring, lloyd's sword ring, dark clutch ring (when I use black fire orb instead of great chaos fire orb), flame +10, is that about the ceiling?
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May 23, 2016 04:51
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I've been having a fun time in NG+ in Crucifixion Woods where a red invader took on over seven other invaders while i tossed prism stones and made gestures. Even had two bluecops come which my friendly invader was able to handle both. I really wish you could put Crystal Sage off later, been having such fun invasions there (except for the gank squads of course). Also, I wish heavy armor wasn't so heavy, even with minimal investment into all my other stats I can barely use Morne's Hammer and wear his armor at the same time so I'm stuck with the fat-roll with Havel's, Favor & Protection, and Prisoner's Chain. ^^^Try testing using Deep Protection and see it if increases your damage. It's a good miracle in general if you can slot for it.
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SynthOrange posted:No one wants to summon a mad spirit to help kill a boss. I'm just hedging my bets! If you win I get souls, if you lose I get your vertebrae I don't think they can fight bosses, can they?
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lite_sleepr posted:I think I've only ever found two, including the one Siegward gives you. http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Titanite+Slab At least they made the other upgrade materials infinite-purchaseable, so really you can have all your weapons at +9 (or +4 for special) and the slabs are for things you want to commit to. I'm kind of sad at the build variety this go-round. I've done a playthrough with a big fuckoff sword, a tiny fuckyoubleed dexterity sword, a luck build and just finished a sorcery build (which got stupid for NK; after a bit of practice he hit me ONCE in the whole fight, the dragon didn't even touch me). I want to play through again, but I don't know what to do to feel "different".
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Flubby posted:I don't think they can fight bosses, can they? You're right on this though, they can't fight bosses.
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Digirat posted:If those londor dicks want you to sacrifice your looks for them then they aren't worth your time anyway. Kill yuria, cure the dark sigil and bask in your majestic aura of good fashion. Nah, the correct solution is to set your base skin colour to the darkest option, give yourself a sick nasty face and run around as the mini nameless king.
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Oh. Welp. Maybe I should drop a sign by a bonfire and see how it goes.
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Got my last 10 tongues looking like this: And boy did I have to work for it.  The reach on it felt nice but I've been playing with straight swords for too long, and the wind-up on it felt like I was telegraphing swings too easily for people to roll away, even for low level PVP. Trying to play without a shield and without parrying felt too punishing, though. I finally had to give up and parry my last kill because he was two-handing a bandit knife and kept unceasingly poking me while dodging all of my swings.I wonder if infusing dark killed the bleed build-up on it, or if I just couldn't land enough consecutive hits to make it fill.
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Cyberventurer posted:Got my last 10 tongues looking like this: I'd just like to appreciate this because you actually tried playing without straight swords. It makes for interesting pvp. I'd rather lose to some guy with a weird axe or scimitar or halberd, than lose to r1 straight sword spam.
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Cyberventurer posted:Got my last 10 tongues looking like this: This is quality poo poo. Fine work. I've been playing a sorceress and took her from the start through the cathedral with just a handful of deaths. I was feeling like a total bad rear end. Then I hit smoldering lake... and holy poo poo. I cheesed the worm and took the old king out in one go, and then proceeded to spend an hour and a half trying to get to the antechamber. I'm going to run through most of it, because gently caress that place. Christ.
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May 23, 2016 05:23
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Look if they didnt want the giant worm to get shot to death they shouldnt leave a gigantic ballista just lying around
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You'd think eventually the ballista would run out of arrows. But all the Giants around there make me sad.
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Stokes posted:The Demon's Greataxe and it's Weapon Art is amazing. Totally gonna make a vid. I wanna make a Demon Axe-Pyro, but the amount of required stats makes me sad.  (edit) On an unrelated note, I kinda feel like doing a lowbie Farron invader. SL30 or there abouts, +3 weapon sound all right for that? And any recommendations for a strong lowbie Raw weapon that isn't RAW rear end, or Dark Sword, or any other straight sword? I've been thinking one of the early halberd class weapons maybe? That way I'd have more spacing potential vs. host with phantom buddies. Attestant fucked around with this message at 05:54 on May 23, 2016 |
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I want to know who forged a giant triple ballista of despair that is capable of reloading and aiming without any operators. That stupid thing is the most advanced piece of technology in any DS game.
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lite_sleepr posted:Hey I beat the game! Jaaam already said get all Slabs which should be your number 1 goal. After that finish off all NPC quests and buy any of their gear you think looks cool. If you haven't done Archdragon Peak and Nameless King yet, give it a shot. There's a ton of stuff to grab in the Peak even without killing NK and if you do finish him off (hard, I know) you get an extra Slab and some rad armor. Don't be afraid of NG+, it's not that much harder. Be sure you have the Hornet Ring though, because crit damage is 1.5x in NG+ and 2x in NG++, and because of this and the higher enemy health crits are the fastest way to kill in those modes.
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Internet Kraken posted:I want to know who forged a giant triple ballista of despair that is capable of reloading and aiming without any operators. Prolly' the Abyss Watchers got a hot tip that the Izalith demons were talkin' poo poo about their pointy hats, so they got to work
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Attestant posted:I wanna make a Demon Axe-Pyro, but the amount of required stats makes me sad. Is the falchion too straight swordy?
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Attestant posted:I wanna make a Demon Axe-Pyro, but the amount of required stats makes me sad. If you start as a Pyro, you just need to raise your str to 28 to use it and you do like 600+ damage with your faith and int at 25 which is all you need to be able to use every pyromancy. Here is what my build looks like at level 33: https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/26792 Catching people in the L2 blast is very satisfying. Stokes fucked around with this message at 06:11 on May 23, 2016 |
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Thanks to Eygon for getting me through that SL1 Armour fight. I must have spent at least four hours on that fucker before summoning.
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Cyberventurer posted:Got my last 10 tongues looking like this: I play with the scythe a lot and my advice to you is to run around with it one handed doing the running attack over and over. It hits everything in front of you and does good chip damage against people who are blocking. The 1 handed moveset is really good and switching between 1 handed and 2 handed to vary timing catches people offguard.
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Just found out that as a single player I can be loving double invaded by Aldritch Faithful. Meanwhile if I ever try to invade anyone, anywhere, it's a loving 3v1. I'm really not good enough to beat two guys at once, From, I'm sorry.
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Jaaam posted:Is the falchion too straight swordy? Maybe not, but it's also kinda basic. Stokes posted:If you start as a Pyro, you just need to raise your str to 28 to use it and you do like 600+ damage with your faith and int at 25 which is all you need to be able to use every pyromancy. I guess that's not too bad. Maybe I'm overestimating how annoying it'd be. I guess it'd mostly be sort of annoying you level, before both aspects of the build come online.
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