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Is Claud someone we've seen before?
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# ? May 22, 2016 12:17 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 05:35 |
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Haven't seen but was mentioned as the guy who did the dollomancy for Charlescom's guns.
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# ? May 22, 2016 17:42 |
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I hope this just got very interesting.
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# ? May 23, 2016 08:06 |
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Haha, oh drat. If this crosses back over with the trial plot, they can literally just bring in the bracer as evidence, ask it "what are the chances Charlescomm shot first" or something and it's all over for Charlie. Of course, they should probably ask "what are the odds Charlie kills us all with guns if we do that" first. Either way, it is really satisfying when Charlie's schemes collapse like this. Which is the mark of a really good villain, I think, although obviously if it goes on too much longer it'll start having diminishing returns.
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# ? May 23, 2016 08:19 |
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The important question here is whether Don is willing to accept the truth about Vanna and his big redemptive chance on the word of a weirdass artifact doing things it shouldn't be able to.
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# ? May 23, 2016 13:09 |
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I wish the website would load for me.
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# ? May 23, 2016 13:46 |
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Charlie doesn't want you to see the new strip.
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# ? May 23, 2016 16:10 |
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Site's back, for those who had trouble earlier. This whole arc has been basically Charlie playing a desperate game of speed chess against Fate itself trying to screw him in every possible way.
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# ? May 23, 2016 18:42 |
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Main site's still 502'ing at intervals. If it happens to you, you can get the new comic from the Facebook or Twitter pages.Kyte posted:This whole arc has been basically Charlie playing a desperate game of speed chess against Fate itself trying to screw him in every possible way. Worth noting that Fate can reasonably claim self-defence here!
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# ? May 23, 2016 20:14 |
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Was the perfect warlord spell something Charlie had a hand in? Is he being hoisted by his own Carnymancy? Cause that bracer is cheating the rules a bit...
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# ? May 23, 2016 20:23 |
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We already know the bracer's subject to Fate tampering. It tried to fool Parson into thinking the spell to send him back would never work, remember?
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# ? May 23, 2016 20:53 |
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I would assume that's why it's giving such a certain reading to Don King right now, where it's usually much more imprecise. It appears to be actively attempting to manipulate the side and sabotage Charlie. I wonder how much of that is Fate and how much of that is the parameters of the Perfect Warlord spell, still trying to do its job.
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# ? May 23, 2016 21:12 |
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Reene posted:I wonder how much of that is Fate and how much of that is the parameters of the Perfect Warlord spell, still trying to do its job. There's a difference?
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# ? May 23, 2016 21:14 |
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Reene posted:I would assume that's why it's giving such a certain reading to Don King right now, where it's usually much more imprecise. It appears to be actively attempting to manipulate the side and sabotage Charlie. I like this explanation better than what I had been thinking, which is that this is how powerful the bracer is in the hands of a trained mathamancer. Either way, though, the bracer seems nearly as game-breaking as the arkentools.
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# ? May 23, 2016 23:35 |
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nimby posted:Was the perfect warlord spell something Charlie had a hand in? Yeah. He wasn't directly involved in the link-up that cast it the first time (since he didn't have the Arkendish until he got it as spoils from defeating those two enemies), but he is the one that arranged it.
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# ? May 23, 2016 23:59 |
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Mniot posted:I like this explanation better than what I had been thinking, which is that this is how powerful the bracer is in the hands of a trained mathamancer. I'm calling it: all the Arkentools came in happy meals along with people summoned from earth, and this is Parson's.
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# ? May 24, 2016 00:21 |
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Rand Brittain posted:I'm calling it: all the Arkentools came in happy meals along with people summoned from earth, and this is Parson's. That'd wildly contradict previous worldbuilding. Plus the observed effects aren't consistent between the bracer and actual Arkentools. It's powerful, yes, but not quite on the same level.
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# ? May 24, 2016 01:03 |
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Plus the Arkentools are all 3D-rendered objects, and the bracer is just drawn, same as everything else.
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# ? May 24, 2016 01:31 |
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Idran posted:Plus the Arkentools are all 3D-rendered objects, and the bracer is just drawn, same as everything else. This is the definitive proof tbh. As for why it's giving such precise answers now, I think it's because the questions being asked are of past events, things that already happened. Parson used it to calculate coin flips, Benjamin is asking it whether a previously flipped coin was heads or tails. There's no ambiguity there. Relatedly, I think the reason it gave such weird answers when Parson asked about the spell isn't necessarily because of Fate Shenanigans (not that we can ever rule that out), but because the questions he were asking were based on a false premise, namely it was some property unique to himself that would let him cast spells in general. Which wasn't exactly true, it wasn't exactly false, and there was a definite answer and not a probability range. So the bracer sort of glitched out because it had the answer but couldn't express it mathematically (maybe if it was a graphing calculator instead of a watch).
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# ? May 24, 2016 02:04 |
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Oh, right. The 3D render is surprisingly well-integrated, so well that I forgot it was a thing.
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# ? May 24, 2016 02:42 |
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Carrasco posted:As for why it's giving such precise answers now, I think it's because the questions being asked are of past events, things that already happened. Parson used it to calculate coin flips, Benjamin is asking it whether a previously flipped coin was heads or tails. There's no ambiguity there. The way Ben is using it now, the bracer has upgraded again from oracle to portable omniscience. "Bracers, chances of an enemy stack currently being in the hex to the north? Zero? To the north-west? One? Ok, chances of it being led?... By a warlord of level 1? 2? 3? 4, ok, with full stack?... with flyers?..." ... and so forth. And that is just about the most trivial use you can imagine. Apply the bracer to more serious matters, and you get to effortlessly outplay Charlie. It may not be an artifact but I'd take the bracer over the Arkenhammer any day, probably over the Arkendish too, and I'd at least consider it over the Arkenpliers.
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# ? May 24, 2016 02:49 |
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Yeah. Parson has been using it like a calculator, and whether it's because he's a Mathamancer unit or just not thinking of it just as a calculator, Ben has definitely been finding the right questions to ask.
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# ? May 24, 2016 03:25 |
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I'd say it really is an artifact, but not an arkentool. And to be fair, Parson did ask the right questions, just of a different sort. Predicting the future is just as valuable, after all. Carrasco posted:This is the definitive proof tbh. No, it was deliberately loving with him. Check for yourself. quote:“Odds of: me as a warlord, as I am, casting this Carnymancy spell, right here and now.” Kyte fucked around with this message at 03:37 on May 24, 2016 |
# ? May 24, 2016 03:33 |
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Oh yeah, I'd forgotten the exact wording of the questions he asked. He described it as being "railroaded by two different DMs", which sounds pretty accurate. Anyway, I bet the bracer is going to get ruined now that it's being used like this, either because it could mess up fate or because it's just way too easy a plot device (same thing?). The bracer itself seemed pretty solid--"like hard plastic" or something--but that watch is probably pretty crappy and breakable.
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# ? May 24, 2016 08:01 |
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Carrasco posted:Anyway, I bet the bracer is going to get ruined now that it's being used like this Or it'll remain in Transylvitan hands.
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# ? May 24, 2016 09:15 |
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On the Erfworld Wiki, one can find this shiny mystery box: https://wiki.erfworld.com/Word_of_the_Titans#2198313 quote:Re: What about Parson's friends? Has anyone dared click it? Is it a joke? Does it ruin the comic??
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# ? May 24, 2016 09:54 |
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It's certainly... interesting. In a good way.
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# ? May 24, 2016 10:17 |
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That spoiler is from nearly 10 years ago. Oh god this thing has been going on (hiatus) for a long time.
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# ? May 24, 2016 10:44 |
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It's also definitely a spoiler. I wouldn't say it ruins the comic but if you dislike spoilers you should definitely avoid it.
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# ? May 24, 2016 10:44 |
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It doesn't really spoil anything IMO. It's about as spoilery as, say, Rowling saying that there will probably be a scene involving both Snape and Dumbledore in a book after the first. Yes but how? That doesn't tell you that Snape kills Dumbledore so you can speculate in a thousand directions. So here's my speculation: The way he's phrased his answer also implies that it's not solid yet, it's all made conditional by "there are some plans" and "if everything goes as we hope it will" and in fact the way I read it, it seems to me he was basically planning a spin-off series. You don't write "if everything goes as hoped" to describe your writing process, you use it to describe a planned venture.
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# ? May 24, 2016 12:08 |
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It's from 9 years ago and it has yet to happen. It's not going to he relevant for at least another 2 artists drawing the comic.
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# ? May 24, 2016 12:17 |
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Oh boy. We knew he was a traitor, but not "the highest ranking archon ever to leave Charlescomm". I also like the line "He's not Decrypted, I don't expect him to see the urgency" which is a really tactful way to refer to one's own supernatural, unswerving devotion.
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# ? May 27, 2016 19:00 |
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Carrasco posted:Oh boy. We knew he was a traitor, but not "the highest ranking archon ever to leave Charlescomm". She's saying that she is the highest ranking archon to ever leave Charlescomm, and thus is better at negotiating than Stanley and should be the one who engages in diplomacy. The focus on Thomas is to imply that he's the proper target of the diplomacy.
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# ? May 27, 2016 19:05 |
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The situation is looking kind of ominous for Vanna. Did Bennie really convince Don King? And the idea that this guy is an archon? That seems far-fetched, and not just because he's a guy and all archons seen so far are female. I agree with Sefer that the line refers to the archon in GK, but I don't think it's her who is saying that line: she's the one who objected to diplomacy and the chief warlord is the one dismissing the idea of using Stanley and claiming there's no alternative than diplomacy. He's telling her he's got a mission for her, basically. Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 19:14 on May 27, 2016 |
# ? May 27, 2016 19:07 |
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Oh, that makes a lot more sense (and reads better right after "I wasn't thinking of Stanley"). I thought the implication was Thomas was an archon using some kind of Uberveil.
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# ? May 27, 2016 19:21 |
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Cat Mattress posted:I agree with Sefer that the line refers to the archon in GK, but I don't think it's her who is saying that line: she's the one who objected to diplomacy and the chief warlord is the one dismissing the idea of using Stanley and claiming there's no alternative than diplomacy. He's telling her he's got a mission for her, basically. Yeah, you're right, I wasn't paying enough attention to who was speaking.
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# ? May 27, 2016 19:24 |
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Cat Mattress posted:The situation is looking kind of ominous for Vanna. Did Bennie really convince Don King? I'm pretty sure Vanna's gonna be appreciating the view of the underside of the balcony before the night is over.
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# ? May 27, 2016 22:55 |
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Bruceski posted:I'm pretty sure Vanna's gonna be appreciating the view of the underside of the balcony before the night is over. If she's lucky. It's easy to forget because of his face and demeanor and the general circumstances, but this is still a vampire baring his fangs at someone who just walked to dinner with him alone. And there's no food on those plates.
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# ? May 27, 2016 23:31 |
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Today dinner is self-serve.
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# ? May 27, 2016 23:38 |
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# ? May 9, 2024 05:35 |
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Cat Mattress posted:The situation is looking kind of ominous for Vanna. Did Bennie really convince Don King? Maybe the that guy is an archon from before Charlie attuned the arkendish, and didn't care for the way he was running things?
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# ? May 27, 2016 23:40 |