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Solemn Sloth posted:the only thing worse about Hack than the people who call in are the loving hosts Hack shits me but this time my wife was too slow to turn the radio off so I heard some of it.
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what were their reasons?
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BBJoey posted:what were their reasons? Don't feel represented by the major parties is the only one I can remember. I wasn't really listening because there's no excuse for not voting even though I didn't enrol to vote (because I didn't have to as a dirty foreigner on a PR) when I was their age YES I AM A HYPOCRITE I AM ALL I HATE IN THEM Should be in here fairly early on - Hack only just started when I heard it. http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/hack-monday/7423590
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I can certainly understand that view, even if I don't agree with it. When your options are 'gently caress the young and poor' and 'gently caress the young and poor slightly less' it suddenly feels like the best choice is to just abstain entirely; they're not listening to you anyway, why bother pretending they are? The subject of politics and voting came up at work yesterday, and an Indian woman was telling us that their country's ballots have a straight-up 'I can't vote for either of these parties' option. I doubt that exactly works out, but I bet a specific protest-vote null option would get a lot of use here, especially among the younger voters. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 23:20 on May 23, 2016 |
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May 23, 2016 23:15
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May 23, 2016 23:41
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I can't understand it because they live at a time when there is an extremely strong third party fighting from the left and at the very least they can get a democracy sausage out of it. Kids are retarded is what I'm saying
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BBJoey posted:I can't understand it because they live at a time when there is an extremely strong third party fighting from the left and at the very least they can get a democracy sausage out of it. Kids are retarded is what I'm saying I was just thinking I was a right-wing racist when I was 18 and probably would have voted for Andrew Peacock or worse. It's probably just as well I didn't vote.
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May 23, 2016 23:47
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I don't get it since if the options are "gently caress the poor" and "gently caress the poor a little less" it's still in their interests to select option B rather than just do nothing and accept A. Even though B isn't good, it's still a net benefit.
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Cleretic posted:I can certainly understand that view, even if I don't agree with it. When your options are 'gently caress the young and poor' and 'gently caress the young and poor slightly less' it suddenly feels like the best choice is to just abstain entirely; they're not listening to you anyway, why bother pretending they are? What Iajanus says. If someone is about to get punched in the face once or twice and it depends on your vote, abstaining is not morally correct.
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You're talking to a proud Greens voter (who now has reasons more direct than vague morals and abstract beliefs to vote for them), guys, don't worry. I think it's poo poo too, I was just saying that I understand the view of 'it's pointless to vote'. Even the Greens don't really solve it. They were always in line with my beliefs, and they're certainly better than the Ls, but they're not really a party that directly appeals to the youth so much as the only ones who don't hate them for next to no reason. For young people, there's all stick and no carrot across basically all of politics. Hard to give enough of a poo poo to vote when that's what you're staring down.
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Representative Democracy will always be about choosing lesser evils, and it's very difficult to sell that to an already disillusioned youth who would rather not bother. You should still vote though.
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But I mean is that truism really all that applicable these days? Labor is still really poo poo on refugee policy and they're certainly not going to usher in full communism now, but this election they've announced some pretty hefty policies that differentiate them from the Libs; lifting the Medicare rebate freeze, negative gearing reform, schools funding, an emissions trading scheme - they're definitely a far cry from perfect but they're doing a pretty good job of differentiating themselves in my view.
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May 24, 2016 00:29
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Participating in a corrupt system only serves to legitimise it.
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The system legitimises itself, but can be manipulated into not forcing the most absurd form of wage slavery onto the desperate or not brutally tanking the environment in a time of crisis.
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open24hours posted:Participating in a corrupt system only serves to legitimise it. It was definitely the rate of informal voting, and unregistered voters that convinced me of the problems of bourgeois democracy. 
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May 24, 2016 00:34
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You can only write it off like that because there are so few people with the courage to vote informally.
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open24hours posted:Participating in a corrupt system only serves to legitimise it. 
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Milky Moor posted:What Iajanus says. No but don't you see by voting you are complicit in the system and give it legitimacy, furthermore
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May 24, 2016 00:47
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Hey get this: if you vote, you waive your right to revolution. Pretty catchy eh? Might try it out down the pub later.
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open24hours posted:Hey get this: if you vote, you waive your right to revolution. Pretty catchy eh? Might try it out down the pub later. how do you manage to make the most tedious and banal posts so consistently
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We noticed this morning during Cormann's presser that he doesn't really blink, but at the end of every answer he scrunches his face together for emphasis. Lizard man confirmed.
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Kat Delacour posted:We noticed this morning during Cormann's presser that he doesn't really blink, but at the end of every answer he scrunches his face together for emphasis. Lizard man confirmed. Or a cybernetic organism. Living tissue over a metal endoskeleton. One of the reject models in Cormann's case, supposed to be a janitor at Skynet.
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AgentF posted:Why on earth are One Nation fielding a candidate in South Australia? We already have Family First as our resident right-wing nutjobs Gonna start using Facebook and Facebook related products even more now, thanks Steve!
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May 24, 2016 01:45
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"All the pollies care about are old people and boomers, I'm not even going to enrol to vote" Pollies care about large voting blocs. By not enrolling to vote you ensure that there are less people in the young people bloc so you directly reduce their power. If young folks outnumbered oldies you'd see policies change quick smart. Unfortunately we have an aging population 
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open24hours posted:You can only write it off like that because there are so few people with the courage to vote informally. Yes I can write it off like that, because at best it's a really ineffective tactic that has never worked anywhere ever and at worst it's a really dumb accelerationist tactic that sees the right entrench their power even further.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:"All the pollies care about are old people and boomers, I'm not even going to enrol to vote" Not for long 
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Greens leader Richard Di Natale has failed to provide documents proving his family paid three au pairs a fair wage, despite promising to do so. The hole deepens for RDN
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-24/pyne-defends-coalitions-nbn-plans-after-afp-raids/7438732 Remind anyone of a certain "640 kB ought to be enough for anybody" moment? Keep in mind this is our Minister for "Innovation".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB8pwN-T8gM
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CrazyTolradi posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-24/pyne-defends-coalitions-nbn-plans-after-afp-raids/7438732 quote:Australians do not need the super-fast internet speeds promised when Labor wanted to roll out the National Broadband Network, Liberal frontbencher Christopher Pyne says. I can't even get a stable ADSL sync at 6MBps in loving Glenmore Park, eat poo poo and gently caress right off Pyne
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There's certainly points to all this about young non-voters, but I can't be the only one that notices that every single one of these points comes from a view of young, would-be voters being the ones that have to change. That might be true, but it's a perspective that I doubt they're fans of, and it's not necessarily the way it has to be. There's a huge untapped voting bloc there of disillusioned youth, that just aren't getting spoken to by politics. The party that scores them has a huge advantage, but they're not going to get them by just telling them to vote for parties that don't speak to them in the first place. Rudd was the last person that even tried here, so we're nearing a decade of politics that just flat ignores or even vilifies their existence. Not like there's no justification or evidence; think of Obama, Sanders, Trudeau (I assume, I don't really know CanPol). Maybe this is something of a weird casualty of mandatory voting. I know such a system is way better than the alternative, don't misread me as being against it, but perhaps being this long in a system with that guaranteed audience left our major parties unprepared to even engage the people who don't enrol to vote.
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If anyone cared about getting people to vote they'd be enrolled at birth. For this to go on for so long it has to be intentional.
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kirbysuperstar posted:I can't even get a stable ADSL sync at 6MBps in loving Glenmore Park, eat poo poo and gently caress right off Pyne I'm lucky, we average 19-20Mbps where we are now (i checked the cable length from exchange before we applied), but the biggest issue the LNP avoid on this is how loving awful upstream is on all connections across Australia. That is unless you want to pay $40k a month for a 10/10Mbit BDSL service from Telstra. The benefits of a cheap, easy to access 25/25Mbit connection for people who want to get into areas like graphics, movie creation and media (As well as engineering, I'm told CAD files can be loving huge apparently?). Instead, we have the Minister for "Innovation" saying, nah no one needs this poo poo, it's all a waste when the economic benefit would clearly boost the ability of smaller startup companies in content creation to compete with larger entities. If we get an LNP government, you're looking at them just giving up with the NBN and selling off it's bits to Telstra because their Telstra buddies are starting to feel the pain and are getting major loses from the project (boo loving hoo right?). They've already gutted it to the point where rollout is crawling at a snails pace and the area it covers is relatively microscopic when compared to the % of population it services.
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Cleretic posted:I was trying to figure out who Young Bill Shorten reminded me of. Someone young, smug and self-assured, definitely. Maybe someone from a teen comedy, like maybe an uptight upperclassmen that gets dunked on or pranked? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Ferguson They are touring and are occasionally funny. Much unlike O24. We don't need faster broadband because time isn't money and productivity is largely a myth anyway... http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-24/pyne-defends-coalitions-nbn-plans-after-afp-raids/7438732 quote:Q&A: Christopher Pyne defends Coalition's NBN plan in wake of controversial AFP raids By Kristian Silva Updated about an hour ago Very generous considering. Does Albo think Canada is a tin pot failed third world government? http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-24/election-live-may-24/7438420 quote:Election Live: Canada could take our refugees, Labor says Today's visit from the gently caress up fairy brought to you by ALP & LNP!
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Does ALBO read 4chan? "Duh put them in Sweden!"
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From 7-11 to The Greens. 
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