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I just hit a sovcit goldmine. While looking for the source of another poster's crazy relative's sovcit filings elsewhere, I came across "Saving to Suitors Club", an active forum devoted to sovcit legal theory. http://savingtosuitorsclub.net/cmps_index.php
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Throwing Turtles posted:I couldn't figure out how to buy anything, but I did find this couple randomly placed in the catalog among all the knives for sale. ... Lavoy?
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May 23, 2016 08:15
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Ask your tattoo artist if they can do a gnome.
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May 23, 2016 08:22
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Eox posted:... Lavoy? There's a resemblance but if Lavoy were a former marine senior NCO there now way we would not have heard about it non-loving-stop from the patridiots, least of all from him.
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May 23, 2016 08:42
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Stolen valour then?
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May 23, 2016 09:01
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Dr. Killjoy posted:Stolen valour then? He did a good job if so. Uniform appears to be worn correctly, and didn't stop there. That definitely looks like an enlisted man's wife, if more than a little under the weight requirements.
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May 23, 2016 09:04
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Semper fi 
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May 23, 2016 09:14
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Otisburg posted:He did a good job if so. Uniform appears to be worn correctly, and didn't stop there. That definitely looks like an enlisted man's wife, if more than a little under the weight requirements. Sixteen year SNCO with wife-piece sporting trashing tattoo; poo poo looks legit.
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May 23, 2016 11:27
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Throwing Turtles posted:I couldn't figure out how to buy anything, but I did find this couple randomly placed in the catalog among all the knives for sale. How much were they?
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May 23, 2016 13:07
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Discendo Vox posted:I just hit a sovcit goldmine. I waited way too long to click that link and now I'm gonna be at work all day waiting to get home so I can make myself a drink and get some purestrain sovcit  I mean look at this and tell me it doesn't look like a hoot:  
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May 23, 2016 14:26
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No way is that a couple, they gotta be siblings. Their faces are way too similar. This is like some kind of weird, "Sis, it's never too late to go to prom" thing.
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May 23, 2016 14:54
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The Larch posted:How much were they? It looks like a sad virgin who's stealing valor and decided to spend that week's check from Payless on a discount hooker.
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May 23, 2016 15:23
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 says her voice is deeper than his.
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May 23, 2016 16:33
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Otisburg posted:He did a good job if so. Uniform appears to be worn correctly, and didn't stop there. That definitely looks like an enlisted man's wife, if more than a little under the weight requirements. It looks legit. One of the big tip-offs with stolen valor types are the uniform of one branch and a giant wall of ribbons from other branches.
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May 24, 2016 00:18
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When you're in a private militia all valor is earned. Hell they got one just for making a beer run
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May 24, 2016 00:21
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Alan Smithee posted:When you're in a private militia all valor is earned. Hell they got one just for making a beer run "WITNESS ME" as Joe Jack Confer walks down the street, rifle on gut, to bait police officers into talking to him. "WITNESS" type the viewers on his livestream who were too afraid to show up to the meeting spot again
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May 24, 2016 00:25
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Looks legit because who would brag about being deployed at least 3 times and only getting a NAM?
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May 24, 2016 00:26
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Grem posted:Looks legit because who would brag about being deployed at least 3 times and only getting a NAM? Now you got me looking at his medals and ribbons when you menitoned that. In addition to his NAM, I see USMC Good Conduct, Marine Corps Expeditionary, Armed Forces Expeditionary, Global War On Terror Expeditionary, and Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation. It does look like he's got a Combat Action Ribbon and a Marksmanship badge, but I think he has an Arctic Service Ribbon, the ribbon for the Navy Meritorious Unit Commendation and Sea Service underneath that.
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May 24, 2016 02:35
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There's no marksmanship badge, you might be seeing the Presidential Unit Citation (the sideways striped one), but all that is pretty much "was in deployable unit" stuff that could be picked up over 16 years easy, even the Navy stuff could be other poo poo but it's not even medals, just ribbons, I can't see that close to see for sure what all it is. Although the NAM does have a V on it, but still, stolen valor usually involved bronze or silver stars, at least.
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May 24, 2016 02:48
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Are the marine guidelines for awards "some, none, or all?" That's how they did it in the USAF and I went with the "fashion" of wearing "top 3" like everyone else where I was stationed. I had 4
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May 24, 2016 06:43
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"stolen valor" lmao
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May 24, 2016 06:58
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I know nothing about the military, are most of the ribbons and medals and poo poo just like elementary school participation trophies, like "you took the shooty guns class and passed good for you!" or "you spent a whole year polishing the floors of mothballed tugboats, yay!" kind of things?
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May 24, 2016 07:20
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I know nothing about the military, are most of the ribbons and medals and poo poo just like elementary school participation trophies, like "you took the shooty guns class and passed good for you!" or "you spent a whole year polishing the floors of mothballed tugboats, yay!" kind of things?
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May 24, 2016 07:40
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I really wonder how much spotlight the tarpriots will get in the public eye, or if this will continue to be little more than a sideshow oddity.
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May 24, 2016 08:14
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Shakenbaker posted:I waited way too long to click that link and now I'm gonna be at work all day waiting to get home so I can make myself a drink and get some purestrain sovcit A real post from the "Please help us understand how redeeming will work in a system like this?" thread: quote:
I don't understand what the gently caress that image is about. Most of the other content of that thread is really disjointed.
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May 24, 2016 08:16
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McGlockenshire posted:I don't understand what the gently caress that image is about. Profound, untreated mental illness.
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May 24, 2016 08:27
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I know nothing about the military, are most of the ribbons and medals and poo poo just like elementary school participation trophies, like "you took the shooty guns class and passed good for you!" or "you spent a whole year polishing the floors of mothballed tugboats, yay!" kind of things? To oversimplify it, It's a mixture of participation stuff, accomplishments, and awards. You'll get a ribbon with certain medals, for instance. I was on a mil history forum where people kind of went on witch hunts for SV heels. I didn't participate as it got really ugly, but I learned a lot as they examined every inch of uniform. After a while, people got sick of just saying "oh horseshit he's got 80 ribbons and a medal that shows he fought in a colonial conflict in 1909" and would really get into the seams of the clothing with evidence to back it up. It was strange, but interesting. It's where I first really saw the SovCits. It's like even they realize how dumb their ideas are, and the only way they can get dopes to believe it is if it comes from one of "are heroes :salute:"
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May 24, 2016 08:56
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http://www.kdrv.com/news/380568791.htmlquote:Sparks flew during a hearing in the state Capitol on a proposal to turn 2.5 million acres of canyonlands in southeastern Oregon into a federally protected monument. Please yes
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May 24, 2016 10:28
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Plan Z posted:After a while, people got sick of just saying "oh horseshit he's got 80 ribbons and a medal that shows he fought in a colonial conflict in 1909" and would really get into the seams of the clothing with evidence to back it up. It was strange, but interesting. I'd be interested in seeing some of this if it's handy.
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May 24, 2016 12:00
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:I know nothing about the military, are most of the ribbons and medals and poo poo just like elementary school participation trophies, like "you took the shooty guns class and passed good for you!" or "you spent a whole year polishing the floors of mothballed tugboats, yay!" kind of things? It's kinda why when I did that rundown, I pointed out the combat service ribbon, because that and purple hearts are like definitive proof he saw combat action (although they recently they changed the requirements to include IEDs, it used to be enemy fire). Everything else was a participation medal. Also, the "shooty guns class" medal is kind of important (although it's more of that course than the medal, medal is just proof). Granted, pretty much everyone gets one, but there's three ranks, Marksman, Sharpshooter, and Expert, and it can have an impact on your future career in the armed forces, since stuff like special operations and sniper school tend to want people who can shoot really good. The Lone Badger posted:I'd be interested in seeing some of this if it's handy. Everything I did when I went on that rundown of medals and ribbons was available on Wikipedia.
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May 24, 2016 12:43
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Also it's a giveaway if somebody doesn't have the dumb automatic ribbons on. Oh you have a bunch of cool hard to get ones but not the one that everyone gets graduating bootcamp. Huh. Interesting.
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May 24, 2016 14:07
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Young Freud posted:It's kinda why when I did that rundown, I pointed out the combat service ribbon, because that and purple hearts are like definitive proof he saw combat action (although they recently they changed the requirements to include IEDs, it used to be enemy fire). Everything else was a participation medal. Ah okay. All I really know about ribbons is my grandpa's WWII ribbons, of which the only ones I know anything about are his cool engineer corps one and his purple hearts he got from taking shrapnel from a Japanese mine detonator he failed to de-engineer correctly 
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Young Freud posted:It's kinda why when I did that rundown, I pointed out the combat service ribbon, because that and purple hearts are like definitive proof he saw combat action (although they recently they changed the requirements to include IEDs, it used to be enemy fire). Everything else was a participation medal. It used to be hard to get a combat action ribbon. This jerkoff sergeant in my battalion tried to get one for shooting out of the passenger side window in the last truck of a convoy, when there was an attack on the left side of the front of the convoy. The XO's resonse was 'you're a useless idiot, you were nowhere near the action, you loving jerkoff'. Casimir Radon posted:There's poo poo everyone gets, and then there are varying degrees of things you could actually consider accomplishments. On the higher end you have officers getting Bronze Stars (without valor device) simply for being in charge when something happened regardless of how their actual leadership worked out. I know a captain who lead a company off-base in order to perform a promotion and ribbon ceremony, when such ceremonies were explicitly banned in combat zones. Because it's a bad thing to have people massed up in a place where there's a constant threat of mortar and IED attacks. Especially when said idiot captain used the same place on the first of the month for 3 consecutive months, and some intrepid insurgents buried a loving IED in that spot the night before the 4th and killed 13 people. This captain put himself up for a purple heart because the blast dislocated his shoulder, and a bronze star with combat V for bravely calling for a medevac. VVV It's simultaneously harder and easier to get medals and decorations than these stolen valor patriot idiots think. red19fire has issued a correction as of 21:51 on May 24, 2016 |
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May 24, 2016 21:33
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What the gently caress does any of this have to do with those Bundy hicks
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May 24, 2016 21:49
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red19fire posted:It used to be hard to get a combat action ribbon. This jerkoff sergeant in my battalion tried to get one for shooting out of the passenger side window in the last truck of a convoy, when there was an attack on the left side of the front of the convoy. The XO's resonse was 'you're a useless idiot, you were nowhere near the action, you loving jerkoff'. ... was he just firing out the side of the truck wildly at nothing, hoping that would get him a medal?
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May 24, 2016 21:55
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Tayter Swift posted:What the gently caress does any of this have to do with those Bundy hicks The screaming madness that is the Bundy legal defense strategy brought up the subject of sovcits (not for the first time,) so Throwing Turtles went looking for examples local to him: Throwing Turtles posted:The article leads to the Southern Poverty Law Center's hand guide of whack jobs by state, so I bit the bullet and checked out my local loonies. I clicked on the first thing that was for sale and wound up on a poorly laid out site that sold survival gear. By Survival gear I mean knives, lots of knife. Like six categories of knives. Among all of that, he also found this photo: quote:I couldn't figure out how to buy anything, but I did find this couple randomly placed in the catalog among all the knives for sale. Considering the number of wannabes and LARP troopers who took park in the Malheur occupation, the question was advanced that he might be another stolen valor rear end in a top hat, but no it seems he's probably just a standard veteran. You're right that is is getting pretty off topic, despite being interesting.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:... was he just firing out the side of the truck wildly at nothing, hoping that would get him a medal? Indeed. A pistol, no less.
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May 24, 2016 22:01
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Young Freud posted:Everything I did when I went on that rundown of medals and ribbons was available on Wikipedia. I meant some of the detailed teardowns of "he's tied his shoelaces wrong to be part of that unit and those medals would have required him to be in two different places at the same time" you mention.
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Funny that military 'participation' medals make desk jockeys puff out their chest and insist that they earned them but talk about giving kids participation trophies and get ready for a meltdown about coddling kids and safe spaces. So any new news on how shitfucked those Bundy boys are?
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red19fire posted:Indeed. A pistol, no less. This was so much more common than people realize. Now you get a CAR for reacting to an IED, just ducking and covering.
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