Plinkey posted:Burn it all down and start over, some 12 year old hosed up bad at SimCity.
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# ? May 25, 2016 09:08 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 01:33 |
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Yeah, or you can just move to this place in the Desert and live on almost perfectly straight roads. ...land is cheap!
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# ? May 25, 2016 09:20 |
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Oh, and just to add, this is Kelvindale, in Glasgow. Nearby areas include Kelvinside, Kelvinbridge, Kelvingrove, and Kelvinhall. They're linked by the Kelvin Walkway, which runs alongside the river Kelvin. Also the Kelvin scale is in a sense named after the river, via Lord Kelvin. Kelvin Kelvin Kelvin
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# ? May 25, 2016 09:23 |
Reveilled posted:Oh, and just to add, this is Kelvindale, in Glasgow. Nearby areas include Kelvinside, Kelvinbridge, Kelvingrove, and Kelvinhall. They're linked by the Kelvin Walkway, which runs alongside the river Kelvin. you guys apparently have a lack of imagination or I guess Lord Kelvin really loved himself
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# ? May 25, 2016 09:29 |
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tehchekt posted:Boston chuckles Pittsburgh laughs at your peasant 4 way intersections. (also the two Inez Ways) edit: And 6 way intersections! b0lt fucked around with this message at 09:54 on May 25, 2016 |
# ? May 25, 2016 09:41 |
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Rah! posted:you guys apparently have a lack of imagination Eh, it's just the way cities which have grown over a thousand years work. You build a bridge over the Kelvin, call it Kelvin bridge so everyone knows which bridge you're talking about when giving directions. You build a university outside the city, and it's the only thing for miles around, people say it's in the Kelvin grove. Then the well-to-do want to live outside the city near the university, so they call that place Kelvinside because the name says "I'm rich because I live West of the city". Then a post-war developer wants to build houses for lower-middle-class people who want to imagine they're well-to-do, call that Kelvindale cause then you sound rich even if you're not.
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# ? May 25, 2016 09:50 |
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Plinkey posted:Yeah, or you can just move to this place in the Desert and live on almost perfectly straight roads. I got some straight roads for you. I love how the planners just refuse to acknowledge the river's existence as much as possible, bridges are either made to follow the normal grid or the grid is expanded to avoid the river unless it's absolutely necessary to do something like on Ferris.
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# ? May 25, 2016 10:05 |
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Reveilled posted:
How can packages even reach places here? Do trucks with packages run in circles for days trying to find the right place, only to drop them on some random location?
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# ? May 25, 2016 13:11 |
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They end up in Atlanta.
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# ? May 25, 2016 13:14 |
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Tei posted:How can packages even reach places here? The UK has a pretty precise postcode system which means this isn't really an issue.
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# ? May 25, 2016 13:44 |
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It's hard to read two words.
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# ? May 25, 2016 14:10 |
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Reveilled posted:
Nonsense like this (and that Philadelphia intersection, WTF) is why the Mormons built all of their cities not just on a grid, but a numbered grid. Center Street is 0 on the x-axis, Main Street is 0 on the y-axis, and everything is numbered + cardinal direction from there. It's impossible to get lost in any Utah/Eastern Idaho/Northern Arizona town for this very reason.
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# ? May 25, 2016 16:35 |
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Brennanite posted:Nonsense like this (and that Philadelphia intersection, WTF) is why the Mormons built all of their cities not just on a grid, but a numbered grid. Center Street is 0 on the x-axis, Main Street is 0 on the y-axis, and everything is numbered + cardinal direction from there. It's impossible to get lost in any Utah/Eastern Idaho/Northern Arizona town for this very reason. The main reason it's hard to get lost in Mormon towns is because no one has a reason to be there if they don't live there.
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# ? May 25, 2016 16:58 |
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Brennanite posted:Nonsense like this (and that Philadelphia intersection, WTF) is why the Mormons built all of their cities not just on a grid, but a numbered grid. Center Street is 0 on the x-axis, Main Street is 0 on the y-axis, and everything is numbered + cardinal direction from there. It's impossible to get lost in any Utah/Eastern Idaho/Northern Arizona town for this very reason. I'm not sure that street addresses like "300 S 300 N" make it impossible to get lost.
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# ? May 25, 2016 17:03 |
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The STEM city of my dreams looks like a giant chessboard except for the 64 lane freeway they built through it in the 60s, under which is a Romani tent city
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# ? May 25, 2016 17:07 |
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Albino Squirrel posted:Politically loaded because Stone Mountain, home to a carving of a bunch of goddamn racists, appears to be overwhelmingly African-American? Stone Mountain the town is indeed 75% African-American. Stone Mountain the, uh, mountain (it's actually a monadnock) would be a pleasant, well-preserved bit of nature if it didn't have that damned carving (and associated history of racist grotesquerie) on it.
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# ? May 25, 2016 17:13 |
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There's a nice little publicly accessible trail going up the western side of the mountain where you don't have to see the Confederate carving at all. Great view at the top.
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# ? May 25, 2016 17:19 |
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I wonder how difficult it would be to actually destroy the carvings, or at least ruin them.
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# ? May 25, 2016 17:35 |
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But it's just the Confederate pantheon, in carving form this time. Aren't there hundreds and hundreds of places named after them? Why is this suddenly so problematic?
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# ? May 25, 2016 17:40 |
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Phlegmish posted:But it's just the Confederate pantheon, in carving form this time. Aren't there hundreds and hundreds of places named after them? Why is this suddenly so problematic? Wouldn't mind renaming those places, either. I don't think Georgia should have this: Or at least put these places/memorials/etc. in proper context. The Confederate generals on Stone Mountain are shown as proud, glorious, victorious. Nary a mention of their original sin.
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# ? May 25, 2016 17:48 |
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"Oh, yeah! Yeah, you can keep the mountain. We're just going to, y'know, add some figures to it. General Sherman. And Grant. And Admiral Farragut. Where? And how big? Oh, you really don't need to worry about details like that."
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# ? May 25, 2016 17:54 |
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Phlegmish posted:But it's just the Confederate pantheon, in carving form this time. Aren't there hundreds and hundreds of places named after them? Why is this suddenly so problematic? You wouldn't leave a mountain carved for Hitler lying around, would you?
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# ? May 25, 2016 17:57 |
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fishmech posted:You wouldn't leave a mountain carved for Hitler lying around, would you? Or Europe in a few decades maybe.
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:10 |
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I just don't like the general idea of blowing up historical monuments just because they don't fit current society's zeitgeist. Then again, if they decided to remove all Leopold II statues in Belgium I would be very much in favor of that, so I can understand in a way.
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:19 |
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Redeye Flight posted:"Oh, yeah! Yeah, you can keep the mountain. On a related note I signed the poo poo out of this petition. You can keep your Confederate big wigs if we can have a bangin donk and Andre 3000 and Big Boi.
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:21 |
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Phlegmish posted:But it's just the Confederate pantheon, in carving form this time. Aren't there hundreds and hundreds of places named after them? Why is this suddenly so problematic? it didn't suddenly become bad, it is only now that there is a sufficient quantity of people who care about its badness (and the amplifying force of social media is prob a factor)
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:23 |
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Golbez posted:Immediately outside of the uptown grid - which, mind you, is tilted a perfect 45 degrees - Charlotte devolves into a non-Euclidean horror worthy of Lovecraft. Technically the Lovecraftian horror that is modern, North American suburbia is hyper-Euclidian because of the court case establishing single-use zoning as a thing.
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:34 |
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Phlegmish posted:I just don't like the general idea of blowing up historical monuments just because they don't fit current society's zeitgeist. Then again, if they decided to remove all Leopold II statues in Belgium I would be very much in favor of that, so I can understand in a way. It feels awfully similar to whitewashing. Destroying all parts of our history that we don't like. IMO a better option would be to add a plaque explaining the historical context to visitors.
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:34 |
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TheQat posted:it didn't suddenly become bad, it is only now that there is a sufficient quantity of people who care about its badness (and the amplifying force of social media is prob a factor) nonwhite americans, and plenty enough white folks sympathetic to us, have thought that confederate monuments valorizing our subjugation have been bad and scoffed at that bullshit "heritage, not hate" line for many, many decades Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 18:44 on May 25, 2016 |
# ? May 25, 2016 18:40 |
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Phlegmish posted:I just don't like the general idea of blowing up historical monuments just because they don't fit current society's zeitgeist. Then again, if they decided to remove all Leopold II statues in Belgium I would be very much in favor of that, so I can understand in a way. If you ever decide to remove them, Congo would gladly give you a hand.
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:42 |
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Disco Infiva posted:If you ever decide to remove them, Congo would gladly give you a hand.
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:44 |
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:nonwhite americans, and plenty enough white folks sympathetic to us, have thought that confederate monuments valorizing our subjugation have been bad and scoffed at that bullshit "heritage, not hate" line for many, many decades You're right, I should have specified: sufficient people for the poster I quoted to notice, not for something to be done
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:45 |
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TheBalor posted:It feels awfully similar to whitewashing. Destroying all parts of our history that we don't like. IMO a better option would be to add a plaque explaining the historical context to visitors. No, that's stupid. That's something you do with a some dumb statue in the far corner of a park, not some ugly rear end carving in a mountainside looming over everything. Whitewashing history is what leaving them up is doing, because it implies they were ever good people, instead of people going to war specifically because they loved them some slavery. fishmech fucked around with this message at 18:50 on May 25, 2016 |
# ? May 25, 2016 18:46 |
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They could use some kind of light amplification technology to project context over it during special events.
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:48 |
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cool kids inc. posted:On a related note I signed the poo poo out of this petition. I feel this is the best solution.
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# ? May 25, 2016 18:49 |
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Phlegmish posted:I just don't like the general idea of blowing up historical monuments just because they don't fit current society's zeitgeist. Then again, if they decided to remove all Leopold II statues in Belgium I would be very much in favor of that, so I can understand in a way. https://twitter.com/Goons_TXT/status/735531269400997889
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:15 |
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I had no idea Newt Gingrich was a goon.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:20 |
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Disco Infiva posted:If you ever decide to remove them, Congo would gladly give you a hand. Many of them have already had their hands severed.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:30 |
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An apt description of Belgians in Congo, and elsewhere.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:47 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 01:33 |
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Guavanaut posted:They could use some kind of light amplification technology to project context over it during special events. Funnily enough, they do have laser shows on the face of the mountain that has the Confederate carving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eCQDwrueiw Just... nothing historical.
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# ? May 25, 2016 19:49 |