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YF-23 posted:That's a pretty stupid wordfilter. put a bold tab in the middle of it and it breaks the filter neoliberal
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Cat Mattress posted:That's why a Brexit is important for Europe. Getting rid of Britain could allow to give a less neolib direction to the EU. It's a long shot (I think we should also kick Germany out to have a real chance) but it's definitely impossible as long as the UK has a word to say. The chief austerity proponents in the EU are the Germans, not the Brits. Britain not being in the Euro is frankly one of the big problems with the EU, they were supposed to act as mediators between France and Germany, and they aren't, so that relationship is dysfunctional
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Charlie Mopps posted:Did it result in full-time jobs so people can afford to live a decent life and start a family? Or was it all temporary and/or part-time jobs? Well, it did lead to more full-time jobs (increase in number of full time jobs started in 2006) and you can life of those jobs and provide for a family, though it might be difficult to feed 3 dependents with only one wage earner, but I don't think that should be the goal anymore anyway. The fact that families are becoming more dependent on double incomes also explains the increase in part-time jobs, as one of the parents often decides to only work part-time and in certain sectors (e.g. nursing) the proliferation of part-time is actually a problem for the employer not the employees. As to the 0 hours a week contracts, there are a few sectors in Germany where similar models are used (e.g. call centers) but the employer generally guarantees ~20-30h a week but employees usually have no problems getting to a full 40h week if they wish (or overtime) and the lower guaranteed workload is mostly to reduce payments in case of illness etc. although unions or courts (not sure, I just know that we stopped selling that concept to our customers) have basically abolished those benefits by forcing employers to base the statutory sick pay on the average hours worked not the hours specified in the contract. GaussianCopula fucked around with this message at 09:10 on May 25, 2016 |
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Greece gets some money, some prospect of debt relief after all important upcoming elections will have safely passed by:Reuters posted:The euro zone gave Greece its firmest offer yet of debt relief in what finance ministers called a breakthrough deal that won a provisional commitment from the IMF to return to taking part in the bailout for Athens, heartening investors. The IMF approval is important since its analysis of the sustainability of Greek debt released yesterday (.pdf) shows to anyone with a remote sense of realism that it is not sustainable in any way, shape, or form, which would preclude the IMF from putting up any further money for loans. So the debt needs to be reduced or written off somehow, and at least officially that is what is going to happen ( spoiler alert: it won't be by enough).
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Pluskut Tukker posted:Greece gets some money, some prospect of debt relief after all important upcoming elections will have safely passed by: This Tweet encapsulates the results https://twitter.com/MMQWalker/status/735316510340722690 But as it's a European decision, everyone is a winner 
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It feels like Germany is stonewalling literally any attempts at improving the lives of the suffering Greek population in favour of their preessshhuuuusssss Geld. If they like gold so much maybe they'll enjoy negotiating with Golden Dawn. 
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Tesseraction posted:It feels like Germany is stonewalling literally any attempts at improving the lives of the suffering Greek population in favour of their preessshhuuuusssss Geld. How does it help the Greek population today when they have to pay a basis points less interest in 2030? Actually, you can make the point that Germany is helping Greece by forcing their government to continue to reform.
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Wow, practically the only thing Tsipras' government had going for it was the prospect of, after the first evaluation, ensuring some form of debt relief. It getting deferred to 2018 (with conditions on top) surpasses my expectations on how much the Eurogroup could poo poo on Greece.GaussianCopula posted:Actually, you can make the point that Germany is helping Greece by forcing their government to continue to reform. gently caress off.
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GaussianCopula posted:How does it help the Greek population today when they have to pay a basis points less interest in 2030? Germany is helping Greece's finances, it's not helping Greece's citizens. There are human beings suffering while Germany counts its cash.
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YF-23 posted:Wow, practically the only thing Tsipras' government had going for it was the prospect of, after the first evaluation, ensuring some form of debt relief. It getting deferred to 2018 (with conditions on top) surpasses my expectations on how much the Eurogroup could poo poo on Greece. Haha, is if there ever was any limit. They're capable of anything at this point short of marching an army into Athens. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 12:16 on May 25, 2016 |
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Tesseraction posted:Germany is helping Greece's finances, it's not helping Greece's citizens. There are human beings suffering while Germany counts its cash. The Eurogroup is giving Greece another €10B and if Greece thinks it would be better off without the Euro, they should have taken Schäuble's offer.
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GaussianCopula posted:The Eurogroup is giving Greece another €10B and if Greece thinks it would be better off without the Euro, they should have taken Schäuble's offer. "Sophie's choice."
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julian assflange posted:Last week Hollande announced income tax cuts (absolutely nothing to do with the election next year) and then the news this week is that he told his ministers to cut another €2bn. Ecology, Science & Research the worst hit. Do the PS pay attention to the polls at all cause they look they will get absolutely wrecked next year.
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TheIllestVillain posted:Do the PS pay attention to the polls at all cause they look they will get absolutely wrecked next year. There was a quote from an unnamed advisor to Hollande floating around Twitter yesterday. To paraphrase: if Hollande backs down on this bill, he's screwed in 2017. I don't know what planet they live on. My guess is that they're banking on Hollande facing off against Marine Le Pen during the second turn of the presidential elections. Edit: Or they're hoping making more empty promises will work. They brought up the idea of letting foreign residents vote in local elections, again. That's been a recurring promise since 1981. Kassad fucked around with this message at 13:11 on May 25, 2016 |
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May 25, 2016 13:09
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Shazback posted:The opposition to the 49-3 (motion de censure) does not call for a new election (legislative election). I don't know where you got that idea from. It merely calls for a new government to be selected by the President. The president can dissolve the parliament whenever he wants, which calls for new legislative elections. That would be a terrible move though so unless Hollande went crazy it wouldn't happen. But the PS leader at the parliament announced that any PS deputy voting against the government would be instantly excluded from the party, meaning the frondeurs would be on their own to get reelected at the next elections, and they can't count anymore on the PS finding them a comfy backup spot. It's easy to blame the frondeurs for talking the talk and not walking the walk, but ultimately the problem lies in how our political life is structured. Getting a mandate is less about your qualifications for the job, and more about how you can climb the ladder in a political party. Being excluded from the PS would pretty much ruin or at least damper the career of the frondeurs.
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The opposite argument can also be made. If the frondeurs toppled the government, given the very poor polling numbers the PS has and the primary process (I'm going to guess Hollande doesn't force himself as candidate of his policy is disavowed on top of everything else), there's a good chance that the current centrist PS will be dead before the elections. Macron will be the last survivor, given that Valls probably won't get much more support from the PS electorate than he did 5 years ago. Chances are that the PS would try to shift to the left wing of the party, around Aubry and other PS bigwigs who have been critical of the Valls governments. They'd go into the 2017 elections with the line that Hollande & Co. didn't understand the electorate (or betrayed it once in power), and present themselves as "real left" following the "failure of social democratic policies". In this new PS the frondeurs would be pretty much rock stars, and even if they fail to be elected, the party will find them a cozy job, unlike in the current situation where if they're not elected (very, very likely given the latest polls, and even more so with this law passing) they'll be blackballed for having "disrupted/failed to support/etc. the PS government and president". It just doesn't seem likely to me that the support of the PS will be enough to get these few people elected, and if they fail they'll not be in a much better position for having toed the line rather than taking a stand.
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Hungarian_democracy.wtf https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/735512945216606208 That's Orban's "illiberal democrats" in first place with 41% of the vote and the literal-fascist-party-with-uniformed-paramilitaries in second place with 27%.
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Tesseraction posted:Interesting that Europe Elects is tweeting from Israel.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Why is that any more or less interesting than them tweeting from any other part of the world? I just figured an organisation interested in political polling in Europe would actually be in Europe. I'm well aware it's not a requirement. Maybe Israel's keeping an eye on the countries where an anti-Semetic far-right are popular like Hungary and so Europe Elects works on the Visegrad group polling from there.
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Tesseraction posted:I just figured an organisation interested in political polling in Europe would actually be in Europe. I'm well aware it's not a requirement. Nope. It's a German student who is currently studying in Haifa, but nice try.
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GaussianCopula posted:Nope. It's a German student who is currently studying in Haifa, but nice try. I... don't understand what this is meant to be a nice try about? Are you trying to claim I'm anti-Semitic?
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Tesseraction posted:I... don't understand what this is meant to be a nice try about? Are you trying to claim I'm anti-Semitic? Interesting..... why would you think anybody is trying to claim you are anti-Semetic?
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Lagotto posted:Interesting..... why would you think anybody is trying to claim you are anti-Semetic? Because it's GC and he has three repeating topics: Greece deserves to starve, drown the refugees so he doesn't have to pay for them, and Israel are unimpeachable. If he wasn't trying to imply something he wouldn't have had that little 'nice try' on the end. If he's going to accuse me I'd rather he do it outright.
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Tesseraction posted:Because it's GC and he has three repeating topics: Greece deserves to starve, drown the refugees so he doesn't have to pay for them, and Israel are unimpeachable. It's more the fact that Orban is probably a lot less anti-semitic than most of the refugees coming to Europe, which makes your implication that Israel would have setup a twitter account to monitor the developments of right-wing populists rather laughable. http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Refugees-bring-anti-Semitism-to-Europe-451385
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On a lighter note, are there any Spanish goons around? Particularly from Madrid or Barcelona. I'm curious as to their thoughts on the new mayors.
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Tesseraction posted:On a lighter note, are there any Spanish goons around? Particularly from Madrid or Barcelona. I'm curious as to their thoughts on the new mayors. Don't be surprised to find that they lack a mayor opinion.
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GaussianCopula posted:It's more the fact that Orban is probably a lot less anti-semitic than most of the refugees coming to Europe, which makes your implication that Israel would have setup a twitter account to monitor the developments of right-wing populists rather laughable. Have you heard of Jobbik? They're the second group down on the polling. Orban is a dumb racist dipshit but it's Jobbik that Jewish people would have something to be fearful of. They're both holocaust deniers and holocaust fetishists. And I didn't say 'Israel set up a Twitter account' I said that the group behind Europe Elects could have had an Israeli office because Israel was willing to provide funding. It's hardly unlikely that a nation of a historically discriminated group wouldn't be interested in the rise of people wanting to re-do the holocaust.
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Isreal set up my twitter account. I keep seeing dead bodies.
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icantfindaname posted:The chief austerity proponents in the EU are the Germans, not the Brits. Britain not being in the Euro is frankly one of the big problems with the EU, they were supposed to act as mediators between France and Germany, and they aren't, so that relationship is dysfunctional Have you seen our government? If we (the UK) were in the Euro our chancellor would be lining up with the Germans telling Greece to suck it. (Thank goodness we aren't, though; hate to say it but the Eurosceptics were right on that one and we dodged a bullet).
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Tesseraction posted:Have you heard of Jobbik? They're the second group down on the polling. Orban is a dumb racist dipshit but it's Jobbik that Jewish people would have something to be fearful of. They're both holocaust deniers and holocaust fetishists. Wait... so if you condemn the slaughter of Palestinians, you're antisemitic? EDIT: Not saying the Hungarians aren't racist, just find it interesting that Israel can apparently commit similar atrocities because they were persecuted in the past.
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Baxta posted:Wait... so if you condemn the slaughter of Palestinians, you're antisemitic? That's always been Israel's position.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36385778quote:'Not such a bad thing' Voter dissatisfaction with democratic institutions isn't really such a bad thing. 
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Friendly Humour posted:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36385778 Well, the CGT only represents 700,000 members while France has population of ~66,000,000. Just saying.
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GaussianCopula posted:Well, the CGT only represents 700,000 members while France has population of ~66,000,000. Just saying. Don't just say, have a point. Now what is it?
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