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Toxxupation posted:It's a confused criticism because Superboy is set up as a guy who dislikes the "darkening" of heroes in stuff like Identity Crisis, but he's also really violent and a murderer so he's a hypocrite?
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I don't like things that are intentionally mean-spirited towards the fans. I understand that bad people can like things and probably deserve to have the piss taken out of them, but it still feels really childish. Superboy Prime is just a running gag.
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May 18, 2016 23:31
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He was pretty cool right up through Crisis on Infinite Earths. And historically cool for the twenty or so years after that. Then Infinite Crisis happened. And then Countdown to Final Crisis Happened. And then Final Crisis: Legion of Three Worlds happened. So the "inconsistently written" bit is technically true, just not in the way that person meant. And all of the "inconsistent" stuff has come from basically one guy, who had a terrible idea to bring back a character who didn't need to be brought back and ran with it, despite pretty much the entire audience telling him to stop. Geoff Johns is terrible, is what I'm saying.
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May 19, 2016 00:47
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I thought Superboy-prime was sympathetic in a sad/pathetic way until he really embraced the "villain" thing. Maybe locking him in the Speed Force after he turned someone into pink mist was a bad idea.
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May 19, 2016 00:48
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There is one Superboy-Prime bit I sort of like, which I believe is in Infinite Crisis #4 during the scene where he fights the Teen Titans, the Justice Society and the Doom Patrol in Smallville, loses control of his own strength and punches Pantha's head off by accident, and the next panel is him looking absolutely terrified, tears in his eyes and blood all over his hands, and he's mumbling something like, "No... I - I didn't mean to do that..." I think those panels work effectively in isolation, although the fact that he's gone full-on evil next time he appears overshadows it. At the very least, it is better than what Geoff Johns originally wanted that panel to show (Pantha's head flying past Red Star).
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May 19, 2016 01:07
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Superboy Prime was good in Sinestro Corp War and Blackest Night.
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May 19, 2016 02:07
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Die Laughing posted:Superboy Prime was good in Sinestro Corp War and Blackest Night.
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Wheat Loaf posted:There is one Superboy-Prime bit I sort of like, which I believe is in Infinite Crisis #4 during the scene where he fights the Teen Titans, the Justice Society and the Doom Patrol in Smallville, loses control of his own strength and punches Pantha's head off by accident, and the next panel is him looking absolutely terrified, tears in his eyes and blood all over his hands, and he's mumbling something like, "No... I - I didn't mean to do that..." I think those panels work effectively in isolation, although the fact that he's gone full-on evil next time he appears overshadows it. Reminder that this is the man that WB are counting on to fix the complaints about the DC movies being too dark.
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May 19, 2016 02:32
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Been thinking about the FF lately - while Reed's guilt about being responsible for turning Ben into the Thing has obviously been thoroughly explored in the past 50+ years, has there ever been a story where Sue has to reflect on how, in the flashback in FF #1, Ben only consented to join their crew when she accused him of being a coward?
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May 20, 2016 14:44
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After reading everything Hickman did from ff through secret wars, I can't believe Reed gave Victor his face back but no one in the entire future foundation thought to make Ben a normal person again when remaking the universe, even though that was literally their first project together.
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May 20, 2016 19:09
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site posted:After reading everything Hickman did from ff through secret wars, I can't believe Reed gave Victor his face back but no one in the entire future foundation thought to make Ben a normal person again when remaking the universe, even though that was literally their first project together.
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May 20, 2016 19:13
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You know, there's tons of dudes out there who look normal and are super tough and strong. There's even this one scientist guy who can switch between regular and monster forms. Of course we can't discount the possibility that Reed Richards is a complete rear end in a top hat.
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May 20, 2016 19:24
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The Thing is basically trapped by status quo despite the fact makes no real sense and the status quo of him being an unlovable monster is long since dead. When's the last time anyone even reacted in horror and disgust to The Thing anyway?
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May 20, 2016 19:25
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He hasn't looked monstrous since the first handful of issues anyway. His iconic look really just makes him look like a cool action figure. He was a lot lumpier way back in the day, looked pretty unsettling, really.
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May 20, 2016 19:31
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I haven't read a comic in a long time where Ben was actually moaning about being The Thing rather than just spouting cliches and punching poo poo. Like the whole point of his character arc was never to find his way back to being human, but to stop rejecting himself as he was, so it makes sense not to change him back once he's actually done that.
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May 21, 2016 00:57
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There is one problem with being The Thing, though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goYavO71deA
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May 21, 2016 01:22
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Lurdiak posted:There is one problem with being The Thing, though. Have Thing and Rockslide ever hung out?
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May 21, 2016 01:34
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So, has anyone else seen this silliness about Marvel making Captain America be a Hydra plant? http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/25/captain-america-villain-hydra-nick-spencer-tom-brevoort I'm...not enthused.
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May 25, 2016 16:20
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10 Beers posted:So, has anyone else seen this silliness about Marvel making Captain America be a Hydra plant? I hadn't seen it before, but now I'm really depressed.
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May 25, 2016 16:38
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As someone who mostly reads DC Comics it's almost comforting to see the other guys do something incredibly dumb for a change.
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May 25, 2016 16:41
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10 Beers posted:So, has anyone else seen this silliness about Marvel making Captain America be a Hydra plant? This is not a clone, not an imposter, not mind control, not someone else acting through Steve. This really is Steve Rogers, Captain America himself. So I guess either they're lying/twisting words or it isn't really the Red Skull's fault after all.
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May 25, 2016 16:47
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"That hero you liked? He's actually bad."
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May 25, 2016 16:58
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To be fair nobody should like the Captain America of the last 3 or 4 years.
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May 25, 2016 17:26
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Aphrodite posted:To be fair nobody should like the Captain America of the last 3 or 4 years. Racist.
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May 25, 2016 17:33
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prefect posted:"That hero you liked? He's actually bad." "But we know how symbolic and iconic that hero is, and by saying he's the opposite of what he symbolises, it makes him MORE BETTER as a symbol... or something!" Edit: Also something about a TV show that had Nazis in it, because WW2.
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May 25, 2016 17:33
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These tweets made me feel a little better. https://twitter.com/DavidUzumeri/status/735498940011839489 https://twitter.com/DavidUzumeri/status/735499023855943684
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May 25, 2016 17:34
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WHAT IF... D00GZ WAS SECRETLY A SKRULL?!
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May 25, 2016 17:41
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Turns out Spider-man was the mugger that killed Uncle Ben the whole time!
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May 25, 2016 17:46
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Spidey Sez: "Responsibility is 4 Squarez!"
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May 25, 2016 17:48
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I just wanted to mention that I've been an agent of HAMMER all along, and am now edgier and cooler as a result. This isn't your grandpa's Alien Rope Burn!
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May 25, 2016 17:57
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Hail Somethingsensitive.
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ImpAtom posted:
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redbackground posted:He has done a terrible job helping them out over the years, then. Supposedly the idea is that he's from a different cell of Hydra who disagrees with the Red Skull segment and that is why he constantly beats the poo poo out of Hydra, it's Nazi infighting they say is inspired by Man In The High Castle.
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May 25, 2016 18:07
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ImpAtom posted:Supposedly the idea is that he's from a different cell of Hydra who disagrees with the Red Skull segment and that is why he constantly beats the poo poo out of Hydra, it's Nazi infighting they say is inspired by Man In The High Castle.
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May 25, 2016 18:13
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Hell of a gamble for Steve to let himself fall into the ocean in his fake attempt to stop Zemo. Must have been real confident that he'd cryo freeze and be revivable later.
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Aphrodite posted:Hell of a gamble for Steve to let himself fall into the ocean in his fake attempt to stop Zemo. Must have been real confident that he'd cryo freeze and be revivable later.
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Just wanted to let everyone here know that even though he isn't a clone, doppelganger, long lost twin, possessed, or mind controlled, Rhyno has secretly been working for DT this whole time. Mind blown.
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Madkal posted:Just wanted to let everyone here know that even though he isn't a clone, doppelganger, long lost twin, possessed, or mind controlled, Rhyno has secretly been working for DT this whole time. Oh what a not totally played out twist. Be honest is anybody here not secretly working for DT?
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ImpAtom posted:Supposedly the idea is that he's from a different cell of Hydra who disagrees with the Red Skull segment and that is why he constantly beats the poo poo out of Hydra, it's Nazi infighting they say is inspired by Man In The High Castle. If they're using that as the reference then if they keep following it the "out" becomes pretty obvious.
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Zachack posted:If they're using that as the reference then if they keep following it the "out" becomes pretty obvious. The Spider-Man Lies Heavy?
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