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Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY

ImpAtom posted:

It's going to be retconned in a heartbeat so it isn't worth getting stressed about but I'm not even sure why they're trying to pretend this isn't an Electric Superman thing where everyone knows it's a dumb idea that isn't going to stick.

Marvel is trying align Captain America with Real America.

Alternative theory. Marvel is trying to align with real America and proclaiming the white man was evil always.

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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



zoux posted:

Hell he has tons of Captain Americas to hang out with.

Captains America.

DekeThornton
Sep 2, 2011

Be friends!
I wasn't sure which thread this should go in, apart from the fanart one in PYF, but it's pretty cool and comic related, so I'll chance and post it here.



Source

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

DekeThornton posted:

I wasn't sure which thread this should go in, apart from the fanart one in PYF, but it's pretty cool and comic related, so I'll chance and post it here.



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Fails for not having Daredevil facing away from everyone else.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

DekeThornton posted:

I wasn't sure which thread this should go in, apart from the fanart one in PYF, but it's pretty cool and comic related, so I'll chance and post it here.



Source

I reckon Cap would be the villain of that - a notorious car thief.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Did Reb Brown Cap do that? I thought that was the movie-movie, not the TV movie one.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

They missed a couple people.

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

Teenage Fansub posted:

They missed a couple people.


This looks like a porno

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

AlmightyBob posted:

This looks like a porno

Probably had the budget of a porno too.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Wheat Loaf posted:

I reckon Cap would be the villain of that - a notorious car thief.

Wrong Captain America.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
I thought that. This Cap has a van, and just wants to, like, see the REAL America, man, quit harshin' his mellow with all this super-soldier talk, brother...

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Gaz-L posted:

Did Reb Brown Cap do that? I thought that was the movie-movie, not the TV movie one.

Lurdiak posted:

Wrong Captain America.

I can't keep all these Caps straight.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Wheat Loaf posted:

I can't keep all these Caps straight.

Caps look cooler tilted to the side anyway.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
We need some kind of rule that stops them making dramatic changes to these Caps. A "Caps Lock" if you like.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


ImpAtom posted:

It's true. Fortunately he has tons of great characters to hang out with, like unmasked married Spider-Man, teenage Tony Stark, and super-genius controlling-his-rage Professor Hulk.

Hey, I'd actually like to read more of that guy.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Wheat Loaf posted:

We need some kind of rule that stops them making dramatic changes to these Caps. A "Caps Lock" if you like.

Dramatic shifts. Come on man.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

I'm amazed that this Cap stuff is completely eclipsing any DC news :allears:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

SynthOrange posted:

I'm amazed that this Cap stuff is completely eclipsing any DC news :allears:

Yeah no poo poo. What DC is doing is far more insane than making Cap a Hydra agent.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

On the other hand it's DC blowing up their universe AGAIN isnt really news

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Maybe they'll take the wrong lesson from this and next year's event will be all DC heroes were secretly nazis .

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

SynthOrange posted:

Maybe they'll take the wrong lesson from this and next year's event will be all DC heroes were secretly nazis .

They will then fight the true source of the grim dark in the DC. FDR.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
It helps that Marvel, over the last few years, has earned the benefit of the doubt. In theory, they might have a good story to tell here.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

El Gallinero Gros posted:

It helps that Marvel, over the last few years, has earned the benefit of the doubt. In theory, they might have a good story to tell here.
I think it's because Rebirth is being recieved pretty positively and this Cap thing is the stupidest loving idea in years. Negative news always gets a bigger reaction.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
Rebirth is being received positively? Why?

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

It's not, but everyone expected DC to do something stupid. Nobody really expected Marvel to turn the star of the hottest new summer blockbuster into a Nazi today. I think more people are freaking out about that because it was pretty out of nowhere.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

CharlestheHammer posted:

Rebirth is being received positively? Why?
Because it mercy-kills the New 52 and fixes a lot of the reasons everyone hated New 52? I'm not saying it's perfect or you even have to like it, but it does some good things.

And then on the other hand the dude who rose to fame punching out Hitler was apparently a literal Nazi all along, so y'know, it's not hard to pick which one of those is easier to mine for outrage.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
But DC is DC so....

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Madkal posted:

But DC is DC so....
So even if it's bad, it's DC and "DC fucks up" is not, at this point, news. Dog bites man vs. man bites dog.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

CapnAndy posted:

Because it mercy-kills the New 52 and fixes a lot of the reasons everyone hated New 52? I'm not saying it's perfect or you even have to like it, but it does some good things.

And then on the other hand the dude who rose to fame punching out Hitler was apparently a literal Nazi all along, so y'know, it's not hard to pick which one of those is easier to mine for outrage.

I read rebirth and it just seems to be exactly the same DC we always had. Least for the last decade.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

CapnAndy posted:

And then on the other hand the dude who rose to fame punching out Hitler was apparently a literal Nazi all along, so y'know, it's not hard to pick which one of those is easier to mine for outrage.

It's pretty amazing that anyone that's ever picked up a comic believes this is an actual thing and not just a storyline. I remember when Dan Slott and Tom Brevoort swore up and down that Peter Parker was dead and Otto was going to be Spider-Man going forward.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Comics Cap is a total rear end in a top hat is barely news too though.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


X-O posted:

It's pretty amazing that anyone that's ever picked up a comic believes this is an actual thing and not just a storyline.

Other than CapnAndy, I don't think a single person bitching about it actually has read a comic in their life.

What's insufferable is that the complainers think they can somehow force a retcon, and will think they've "won" when the storyline concludes.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Lurdiak posted:

Other than CapnAndy, I don't think a single person bitching about it actually has read a comic in their life.

What's insufferable is that the complainers think they can somehow force a retcon, and will think they've "won" when the storyline concludes.

Anyone that actually read the book should see the clues that it's some kind of reality fuckery by Red Skull. The woman that introduces Steve's mom (and seems to know an awful lot about her) to Hydra in the flashback is named Sinclair and the only color in the otherwise black and white flashbacks is red, including her hat and scarf.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

X-O posted:

Anyone that actually read the book should see the clues that it's some kind of reality fuckery by Red Skull. The woman that introduces Steve's mom (and seems to know an awful lot about her) to Hydra in the flashback is named Sinclair and the only color in the otherwise black and white flashbacks is red, including her hat and scarf.

Is that her first or last name? If it's her first Spencer needs to study up on his French because it's a boys name without an E at the end.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Skwirl posted:

Is that her first or last name? If it's her first Spencer needs to study up on his French because it's a boys name without an E at the end.

Last name. First name Elisa.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Changing someone's reality to alter their behaviour counts as mind control and therefore it cannot be that because this is really Steve Rogers, Captain America himself.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

X-O posted:

Last name. First name Elisa.

I figured. My name IRL first name is Sinclair and whenever my name pops up in movies or TV shows it is almost always the last name of an evil woman.

Weird though that a front woman for a German nationalist group has a French/British last name.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Aphrodite posted:

Comics Cap is a total rear end in a top hat is barely news too though.

He wasn't back in those halcyon days of the Brubaker run. I miss non-jerk Comics Steve Rogers.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Yvonmukluk posted:

He wasn't back in those halcyon days of the Brubaker run. I miss non-jerk Comics Steve Rogers.

He wasn't in most of his earlier stuff too.

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Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

El Gallinero Gros posted:

It helps that Marvel, over the last few years, has earned the benefit of the doubt. In theory, they might have a good story to tell here.

It's Spencer and he's not writing about criminals or losers, so no. There's no good story here.

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