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Sarmhan
Nov 1, 2011

I'm really glad the Barrage intro for Pharah exists.

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Javes
May 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT APPEARING OFFLINE SO I DON'T HAVE TO TELL FRIENDS THEY'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY VIDEO GAME TEAM.
Just got 60 kills in one game with Reaper, confirmed best character.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
So what exactly is this voting screen at the end of the match for? Just a for fun thing?

Javes posted:

Just got 60 kills in one game with Reaper, confirmed best character.

"Hahaha that idiot is teleporting right on top of us I'll just-"

:byodood: "DIE DIE DIE" :byodood:

slev
Apr 6, 2009

I feel like McCree shouldn't get to keep 50% charge on his ult if he decides to cancel it.

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP
I just got the agent 76 stunt driver skin so guess I'll be using him a lot more.

I was in a pubbie team and my friend popped the Reinhardt shield and everyone followed behind him and rained hell. We took the point in about 15 seconds or so. Quickest match I've played yet.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Haha, I just had this sick-rear end game in Hanamura, man. I decided to go Tracer and apologized in advance because my Tracer is rear end. Then me and a Genji teleport to their left flank, cap A in a minute, then we just overwhelm them on B and win in like 3min. It was amazing. I love this game sometimes.

Also holy poo poo a lower mouse sensitivity makes a world of difference, I've always played games with the insanely high sensitivity I use for browsing and now I can AIM? and HIT PEOPLE? What is this world?

DurosKlav
Jun 13, 2003

Enter your name pilot!

Come on Blizzard enough is enough I know you want to gently caress Tracer all day and all night but you have to balance her at some point.

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN
Reinhardt needs a Smaug skin. And Ormstein could be Tracer?

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Internet Kraken posted:

So what exactly is this voting screen at the end of the match for? Just a for fun thing?

Yeah, it doesn't serve any purpose other than recognizing outstanding players.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Anyone else who watched pro competitive OW the past two days, what did you think about new scoring system they used for the tourney? I think I liked it. I also wonder if the single hero rule on KOTH maps is going to become tournament standard.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
Torg's Raid Wipe achievement was pretty easy to get.

ColHannibal
Sep 17, 2007
Dear blizzard,

Make voting for yourself impossible, stop labeling the cards with the team and, give and xp bonus to people who vote.

Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP

ColHannibal posted:

Dear blizzard,

Make voting for yourself impossible, stop labeling the cards with the team and, give and xp bonus to people who vote.

I always vote for whoever is in my team.

EMC
Aug 17, 2004

I always vote for me

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I'm having fun trolling chat with old anime and toukusatsu (is that right) songs right now.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

teagone posted:

Anyone else who watched pro competitive OW the past two days, what did you think about new scoring system they used for the tourney? I think I liked it. I also wonder if the single hero rule on KOTH maps is going to become tournament standard.

Do you have a link to the ruleset? I clicked a recording but couldn't infer any changes from regular stopwatch at a glance and I don't have time to watch more than a few minutes right now.

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Countblanc posted:

Do you have a link to the ruleset? I clicked a recording but couldn't infer any changes from regular stopwatch at a glance and I don't have time to watch more than a few minutes right now.

Here you go! http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch/news/35551-3000-alienware-monthly-melee-online-tournament-to-hit-on-launch-day

Bluhman
Nov 7, 2009

Low morale causes the golems to dance in panic.

Count Chocula posted:

Reinhardt needs a Smaug skin. And Ormstein could be Tracer?
Reinhardt is pretty much Ornstein and Smough rolled into one character; he's got Ornstein's lunge and lion-theming, and Smough's hammer and chuftiness.

Like imagine what his Lionhardt skin would look like with a helmet.

incidentally it'll probably be loving ages before I get that skin

Tenzarin posted:

Torg's Raid Wipe achievement was pretty easy to get.


while we're at it, dammit blizzard hurry up and make it so that Torb POTGs with heavy turret kills just focus camera on the turret.

Onean
Feb 11, 2010

Maiden in white...
You are not one of us.

Ddraig posted:

Reinhardt isn't a priority healing target, he's got a huge loving shield. Don't heal Roadhog either unless he really needs it.

Seagull has made a good point about healing Roadhog, since he can tank a lot of damage on his health bar it helps to quickly build the healer's ult.

Papercut posted:

One thing I'm confused about from just watching a stream: on KotH, do you actually need a teammate standing in the point to get the percentage to tick up, or once you've claimed it the percentage ticks up at a fixed rate?

Nobody needs to stay there, but it makes it easy for the enemy to cap so you'll want to keep an eye on it.

Nehru the Damaja posted:

What changed that made the comp meta decide Roadhog is good

He's good against double Winston, which is what almost every comp team played at the end of the beta.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Thank you very much. The one question I have is, does it always go to BO3, and if not, what determines if you go to the third map? Like if team A gets 3 points on maps 1 and 2 and team B gets 2 points on map 1 and 2 for a total of 6 and 4 respectively, does team A win or do they still go to the KotH map? Is KotH only busted out for tiebreakers?

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

I keep reading that Winston is a top choice character, but every time I try him I just can't get anything done with his poor range and damage. I leapt just short of a Widowmaker and she just assault rifle killed me from full health in a single clip. When I ult I just flail around uselessly and more often than not end up punting people to safety. How the hell do you make Winston work?

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Bluhman posted:

while we're at it, dammit blizzard hurry up and make it so that Torb POTGs with heavy turret kills just focus camera on the turret.

Where's the fun in that? :confused:

teagone
Jun 10, 2003

That was pretty intense, huh?

Countblanc posted:

Thank you very much. The one question I have is, does it always go to BO3, and if not, what determines if you go to the third map? Like if team A gets 3 points on maps 1 and 2 and team B gets 2 points on map 1 and 2 for a total of 6 and 4 respectively, does team A win or do they still go to the KotH map? Is KotH only busted out for tiebreakers?

Control/KOTH maps are only used for tiebreakers I believe.

[edit] Found a more in-depth guide to the new ruleset: http://www.gamepedia.com/news/1100-sign-ups-to-alienwares-monthly-melee-start-today

quote:

Two maps are guaranteed to be played. If both teams are tied after two payload maps, both teams ban a KOTH map each and the remaining map is played as a tiebreaker.

teagone fucked around with this message at 07:56 on May 26, 2016

Count Chocula
Dec 25, 2011

WE HAVE TO CONTROL OUR ENVIRONMENT
IF YOU SEE ME POSTING OUTSIDE OF THE AUSPOL THREAD PLEASE TELL ME THAT I'M MISSED AND TO START POSTING AGAIN

chumbler posted:

I keep reading that Winston is a top choice character, but every time I try him I just can't get anything done with his poor range and damage. I leapt just short of a Widowmaker and she just assault rifle killed me from full health in a single clip. When I ult I just flail around uselessly and more often than not end up punting people to safety. How the hell do you make Winston work?

I got really high before playing and leapt around constantly, stopping long enough to drop a shield and fire my tesla cannon, then leaping out again. It was the first time he really clicked for me. Maybe playing Arcade Mode helped.

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



Pakled posted:

Yeah, it doesn't serve any purpose other than recognizing outstanding players.

It also makes you more likely to be matched with the person you vote for! :eng101:

You can manually avoid or prefer players through the recent players tab of the social menu as well for the same effect.

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.
You might be like me and think a team of all winstons would beat a team of all Rhinehardts. Don't be like me. Rhinehardt absolutely obliterates a team of all winstons.

Tenik
Jun 23, 2010


chumbler posted:

I keep reading that Winston is a top choice character, but every time I try him I just can't get anything done with his poor range and damage. I leapt just short of a Widowmaker and she just assault rifle killed me from full health in a single clip. When I ult I just flail around uselessly and more often than not end up punting people to safety. How the hell do you make Winston work?

I think his main strength in comp games is that he is able to force his opponents into positions that are better for his team. He does just enough damage that people want to back away, and he can use that to funnel people towards a teammate. He isn't strong by himself, but he can give his team members a larger advantage. So, unless you are communicating with your team and know them and their patterns well, I don't think you'll be able to make the most of him.

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug
I wish there was more of a visual indicator of flare up to mark where the sweet spot of Roadhog's secondary is. Like, make sparks pop, SOMETHING.

I can blame bad hooks on my terrible aim and timing in general, but it's really hard to for me to learn where the secondary goes from "Meh" to "Sicknasty". Even if that does make it all the more satisfying if I fire a secondary at an Ejected Dva just right and watch her disintegrate.

I like his style though. Even if you ignored the hook, he is quite straightforward and also is the tank with a giant shotgun/grenade launcher instead of just tickling people to death with a giant hammer. His health vanishes REAL FAST if you take for granted he's got 600, but at least in areas of the map where the distances are not just a big gently caress you to him entirely, even I can hold things off for quite a while.

PS: Dear Baby Jesus. Why can defending Bastion's turn into a turret on top of out escort vehicle? Okay I'll just fly overhead to... Oh that's right it's underneath an arch/indoors/other defensible areas.

A Casual's Joke Response to 'Winston? Top Tier?: He's the only tank with auto aim. That must be why right? :downs:

Section Z fucked around with this message at 08:12 on May 26, 2016

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!
Winston's strength in comp is that he does damage in a cone, meaning he fucks up other characters popular in comp (low HP, highly mobile heroes). He's exceptionally weak against the other tanks. His bubbles also provide a good "dividing wall" during initiation, where he can leap in and drop it, effectively cutting off the opposing team's sightlines for precious few seconds and letting your team walk forward. Obviously this requires some amount of coordination to really get going, and Winston himself doesn't invite people to gather around him like Reinhardt does.

e: Which isn't to say he's awful without coordination, but I feel he falls off faster than the other tanks once you hit that "people are decent at DMing but are still solo/duo queueing so there isn't a lot of deliberate planning going on" level of matchmaking.

Knifegrab
Jul 30, 2014

Gadzooks! I'm terrified of this little child who is going to stab me with a knife. I must wrest the knife away from his control and therefore gain the upperhand.
Whats a good counter to an all roadhog team?

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx

Knifegrab posted:

Whats a good counter to an all roadhog team?

1 reinhardt shield

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

chumbler posted:

I keep reading that Winston is a top choice character, but every time I try him I just can't get anything done with his poor range and damage. I leapt just short of a Widowmaker and she just assault rifle killed me from full health in a single clip. When I ult I just flail around uselessly and more often than not end up punting people to safety. How the hell do you make Winston work?

He's the most mobile tank, so he's good for disruption. He's not someone who should just be coming from head on down the main choke like Reinhardt. Use his mobility to find an odd angle, leap into a high priority target or heavy encampment, drop your shield to protect yourself from ranged enemies, kill some squishies and leap back to safety.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Knifegrab posted:

Whats a good counter to an all roadhog team?

Two reinhardts, a bastion, a mercy, a zenyatta, and a widowmaker.

Rhjamiz
Oct 28, 2007

Knifegrab posted:

Whats a good counter to an all roadhog team?

Bastions in turret mode, since they can't be grabbed.

Bluhman
Nov 7, 2009

Low morale causes the golems to dance in panic.
^^PREEEETY sure i've been grabbed out of turret mode plenty of times before.

I find Winston's long shield cooldown is annoying to work with. Like ok his weapon is auto-hit and longer-ranged than Reinhardt's crap and his leap gets him into nice positions for screwing up enemies, but Winston's big strengths bank so strongly around his shield and maneuvering around it. Otherwise he's basically a Reinhardt with less armor and less damage output.

Also what would you call the Overwatch equivalent to a trollgenieer?
https://gfycat.com/PoliteZanyGrouper

also how do you rotate teleporters :saddowns:

Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

Knifegrab posted:

Whats a good counter to an all roadhog team?

Inside hook range: :ohdear:

Outside hook range: :clint:

Afraid of Audio posted:

1 reinhardt shield

So, several Roadpigs < One Torb with his Ult up? Ouch.

Countblanc posted:

Winston's strength in comp is that he does damage in a cone, meaning he fucks up other characters popular in comp (low HP, highly mobile heroes).

Oh, so it really was "He's the tank with auto aim". Go figure.

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx
well its more that roadhog cannot hook through shields and if your team is shooting in their general direction they will constantly have ults

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



Section Z posted:

I wish there was more of a visual indicator of flare up to mark where the sweet spot of Roadhog's secondary is. Like, make sparks pop, SOMETHING.

There is. It's a cluster shot, and you can see the wad of poo poo fly out as a bunch before it expands out into the shot itself a few feet in front of you. It's essentially just left clicking, but a bit further out.

If you fire it and move to the side you can kind of notice it in flight.

Rhjamiz
Oct 28, 2007

Bluhman posted:

^^PREEEETY sure i've been grabbed out of turret mode plenty of times before.

I find Winston's long shield cooldown is annoying to work with. Like ok his weapon is auto-hit and longer-ranged than Reinhardt's crap and his leap gets him into nice positions for screwing up enemies, but Winston's big strengths bank so strongly around his shield and maneuvering around it. Otherwise he's basically a Reinhardt with less armor and less damage output.

Also what would you call the Overwatch equivalent to a trollgenieer?
https://gfycat.com/PoliteZanyGrouper

also how do you rotate teleporters :saddowns:

Oh really? Well poo poo. Turret mode on a cliff then, out of range :v:

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Section Z
Oct 1, 2008

Wait, this is the Moon.
How did I even get here?

Pillbug

Abroham Lincoln posted:

There is. It's a cluster shot, and you can see the wad of poo poo fly out as a bunch before it expands out into the shot itself a few feet in front of you. It's essentially just left clicking, but a bit further out.

If you fire it and move to the side you can kind of notice it in flight.

Well, yeah. That's why I wish there was MORE of an indicator. Because that's basically nothing unless you're the Terminator or Robocop for giving you some needed depth perception in a firefight. Compared to "Okay, that shot about where it expanded did basically nothing. And THAT shot about where it expanded took out the remaining 3/4 of their health" I've got going at the moment.

Plus, it would give people fighting against Roadpig more of a heads up why their health is suddenly vanishing hard. Against otherwise seemingly Psychic Zarya's, I can put out a lot of hurt without them ever catching a single secondary with their bubble. Small sample size and all that, but that's the impression I get in that situation.

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