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MinibarMatchman posted:Also funny how Kevin's probably more amicable and yet is the way better heel character right now by a mile. Counterpoint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhzwhAYy5hA
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May 25, 2016 16:29
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That, and the whole Straight Edge Society angle.
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May 25, 2016 16:33
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ICHIBAHN posted:Better heel character than...? Where is Owen's story? Haven't seen it posted quote:Kevin Steen: In April, I wrestled Vordell Walker and that was the ’T-Shirt Incident’ night, so that night was terrifying. A week before the show I asked you, “can I just wrestle in my t-shirt, I don’t feel comfortable without it.” People weren’t exactly blown away with my Ring of Honor run so far. […] This is where I suspect you had to [have told] CM Punk that I asked you about wrestling in a t-shirt.
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May 25, 2016 16:33
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You just know Gabe went up to Punk after that and thanked him for being such a good locker room leader and making ROH what it had become.
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May 25, 2016 16:40
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ICHIBAHN posted:Better heel character than...? Where is Owen's story? Haven't seen it posted Owens knows exactly how to upset people. It really helps he was married to El Generico (allegedly Sami Zayn in NXT) who is naturally loved by the entire world.
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May 25, 2016 16:44
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no lie when the officer saw me he GULPS
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May 25, 2016 16:51
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Gorn Myson posted:That, and the whole Straight Edge Society angle. I was going to post the video of him singing Happy Birthday to Mysterio's daughter too but I couldn't find a good one in a couple tries and I'm at work so I had to stop looking for a little bit.
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May 25, 2016 16:53
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coconono posted:El Generico (allegedly Sami Zayn in NXT)
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May 25, 2016 16:55
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Cm punk is probably a prick and a little overrated but there's no loving place in the multiverse where Kevin Owens of all people is a better heel than cm punk. Edit: I like a lot of Owens matches and promos but nothing brought me greater joy than listening to his ROH theme song for the first time. I was laughing for days. Chromatic fucked around with this message at 09:53 on May 26, 2016 |
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May 26, 2016 09:48
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Seriously, Kevin Owens is not better at heeling than CM Punk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t04r9_Doo84 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhzwhAYy5hA Also lol Luke Gallows
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May 26, 2016 16:20
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It's cool to flip back through this thread and read a bunch of posts about how punk will succeed because he believes in himself a lot and then click to now where, at the first sign of danger, he pulled out and refuses to talk about it
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May 26, 2016 17:00
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vainman posted:It's cool to flip back through this thread and read a bunch of posts about how punk will succeed because he believes in himself a lot and then click to now where, at the first sign of danger, he pulled out and refuses to talk about it hmm I was skeptical so I looked back briefly and nope it looks like it's mostly people joking about him getting killed on tv, or being paired up with a sack for a real bad fight that he might lose to anyway.
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May 26, 2016 17:28
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1.5 years ago I thought this was cool and wanted Punk to succeed now I think it's the dumbest poo poo ever and I hope he goes away soon.
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May 26, 2016 17:33
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Ty1990 posted:1.5 years ago I thought this was cool and wanted The average sports fan.
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May 26, 2016 17:53
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RacistGuidingLight posted:hmm I was skeptical so I looked back briefly and nope it looks like it's mostly people joking about him getting killed on tv, or being paired up with a sack for a real bad fight that he might lose to anyway. You don't read very well.
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May 26, 2016 18:09
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Dana White: CM punk is going to fight here on Tuesday
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May 26, 2016 18:34
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Tezcatlipoca posted:You don't read very well. Quote then & prove him wrong
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May 26, 2016 22:02
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Endorph posted:Look in my eyes
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May 26, 2016 22:08
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cm punk worked ufc into paying for his medical bills and that is actually very cool
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May 26, 2016 22:10
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Cm punk was a somewhat above average wwe wrestle man that was good on the mic and entertaining.
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May 26, 2016 22:18
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Big Coffin Hunter posted:cm punk worked ufc into paying for his medical bills and that is actually very cool I'll be the first to admit I don't know a whole ton about any given wrestleman so maybe CM Punk really is a sly business dealer like that, but I get the impression that this wasn't his angle at all and he really is a doof who thought high-level MMA would be a cool thing for him to do and he simply got the fringe benefit of covered medical care.
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May 26, 2016 22:24
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Bluedeanie posted:I'll be the first to admit I don't know a whole ton about any given wrestleman so maybe CM Punk really is a sly business dealer like that, but I get the impression that this wasn't his angle at all and he really is a doof who thought high-level MMA would be a cool thing for him to do and he simply got the fringe benefit of covered medical care. The basic background, and really the reason Punk left wrestling, is that wrestling provides no medical care other than what Vince McMahon decides to pay for out of the goodness of his heart. There is nothing contractual. Most of the reason wrestlers do commercials and whatever is so they get a SAG credit and therefore insurance. UFC took in a wrestler in his late 30's and really no demonstrated MMA ability on the idea that it would pop at least one buyrate. Surely Punk intends to fight, but he got into UFC on the strength of a Japanese-style striker gimmick and a high profile, so by definition UFC got worked. Also you either have to be a total carny and/or extremely lucky to get to the top of the WWE, it's only nominally a merit-based system and Punk's look is the opposite of what Vince pushes given a choice.
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May 26, 2016 22:51
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I dont know anything about CM punk and i stop listening when wrestling guys start talking about Works and Shoots and Cutting Angles on everyone, but what happened was CM punk was an MMA fan and fantasized about doing it himself, was given an opportunity to do it because he is famous and is now realizing that its actually too hard to do so hes not going to.
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May 26, 2016 22:56
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:The basic background, and really the reason Punk left wrestling, is that wrestling provides no medical care other than what Vince McMahon decides to pay for out of the goodness of his heart. There is nothing contractual. Most of the reason wrestlers do commercials and whatever is so they get a SAG credit and therefore insurance. That may all be true, but if it truly was always just about the insurance all along, why not do what everyone else does as you say and get a SAG credit, sparing his fragile ego the embarrassment or inconvenience of redundant interview questions, losing Kumite-style Rufousport smokers and being called a coward on the internet for ducking Mickey Gall? Surely the man with the Pepsi logo tattooed on his flesh is not above selling out for a few TV spots. Basically, manyak posted:I dont know anything about CM punk and i stop listening when wrestling guys start talking about Works and Shoots and Cutting Angles on everyone, but what happened was CM punk was an MMA fan and fantasized about doing it himself, was given an opportunity to do it because he is famous and is now realizing that its actually too hard to do so hes not going to.
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May 26, 2016 23:00
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the only person here cm punk worked was himself
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May 26, 2016 23:05
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Bluedeanie posted:That may all be true, but if it truly was always just about the insurance all along, why not do what everyone else does as you say and get a SAG credit, sparing his fragile ego the embarrassment or inconvenience of redundant interview questions, losing Kumite-style Rufousport smokers and being called a coward on the internet for ducking Mickey Gall? Surely the man with the Pepsi logo tattooed on his flesh is not above selling out for a few TV spots. I don't know, a gigantic payday for fighting a can, win or lose? There is no real downside. You can work SAG while training.
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May 26, 2016 23:07
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That DICK! posted:Dana White: CM punk is going to fight here on Tuesday Is Dana White having a barbecue?
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May 26, 2016 23:12
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:I don't know, a gigantic payday for fighting a can, win or lose? There is no real downside. You can work SAG while training. If it was only about that he would have done it already, why wait 2 years and train every day and get injured etc if you just want a payday to fight a can and dont care He sincerely wanted to do MMA and be good at it and is now scared to do it because he found out its really hard. Its easy to say theres no downside but he has an ego and a reputation and doesnt want to just look like total poo poo and get humiliated on TV after all this
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May 26, 2016 23:15
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"The last thing I want to do is take more Mickey Gall punches. That's not good...for...your head." - CM Punk in five years, probably.
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May 26, 2016 23:20
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manyak posted:If it was only about that he would have done it already, why wait 2 years and train every day and get injured etc if you just want a payday to fight a can and dont care I am not even sure why he did it, surely he got owned by a black belt at BJJ once and came to the conclusion that MMA would be much harder than pajama pants wrestling.
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May 26, 2016 23:22
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It's wierd that people keep trying to trick themselves into thinking this was some expert business play on the Cool Master Punk's part to wring some of those juicy dollars from the notoriously caring and generous UFC rather than just a guy making a dumb decision to get roughhoused by Mickey "The Assasssin" Gall on the bottom of the fight pass prelims.1st AD posted:I am not even sure why he did it, surely he got owned by a black belt at BJJ once and came to the conclusion that MMA would be much harder than pajama pants wrestling. I tapped my partner twice the first time I did BJJ, so I'm sort of a big deal and I will be fighting Robbie Lawler in the spring.
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May 26, 2016 23:24
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I hope Chick Magnet Punk never fights but instead sits forever just on the verge of fighting. I want his first fight to be 2 months away forever.
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May 26, 2016 23:31
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I was surprised when Dana announced Punk's first fight was gonna be a PPV or prelim fight. I figured they'd do a special exhibition match on a TUF show or something.
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May 26, 2016 23:34
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1st AD posted:I am not even sure why he did it, surely he got owned by a black belt at BJJ once and came to the conclusion that MMA would be much harder than pajama pants wrestling. as someone who just had this revelation a few days ago I concur. Although CM Punk was courted by several of the top gyms in the country to come train and he knew he was going to be given special, individualized treatment at any of those gyms 5 days a week. You can't really blame CM Punk for hyping himself up when AKA and American Top Team and so on were reaching out trying to get him to join their teams.
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May 27, 2016 00:12
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Guy gets herniated disk surgery and everybody's acting like he's chicken. He's Chick Magnet Punk, not Chicken Magnet Punk
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May 27, 2016 00:16
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Heavy Metal posted:Guy gets herniated disk surgery and everybody's acting like he's chicken. He's Chick Magnet Punk, not Chicken Magnet Punk Oh yeah? Explain this.  Checkmate. 
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May 27, 2016 00:20
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BGrifter posted:Oh yeah? Explain this. I can admit when I was wrong, evidence shows he is a Chicken Magnet.
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May 27, 2016 00:24
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1st AD posted:I am not even sure why he did it, surely he got owned by a black belt at BJJ once and came to the conclusion that MMA would be much harder than pajama pants wrestling. Rener and Ryron treat their white belts with big pillowy kid gloves and don't let them actually roll to find out that bjj is actually a lot of work and takes a long time to not suck at, so probably not.
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