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I mean I'm glad that NPC's are brain dead and don't sit there and spin any more. That said NPC's that spam shield cells and chaff? What other game would it be okay if NPC's -- who exist to be killed -- sat there and spammed health potions and stuns?
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The question is: do they get infinite chaff/cells like they do ammo? If yes, that's some double bullshit.
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May 27, 2016 01:14
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That's my thing. I'm fine with them being ramped up a bit, they were a bit too easy. But making them smarter on top of arming them with mod that no one in game can even get yet is just loving  to hell and back.
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May 27, 2016 01:16
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Colonial Air Force posted:That's my thing. I'm fine with them being ramped up a bit, they were a bit too easy. And if you don't fork out for Horizons you never will 
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May 27, 2016 01:17
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That's just brilliant marketing, really.
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May 27, 2016 01:20
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Crazyeyes24 posted:The question is: do they get infinite chaff/cells like they do ammo? Well, it'd take several minutes for an NPC to expend their chaff ammo so it's hard to tell.
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May 27, 2016 01:21
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Anyone get interdicted by Thargoids yet?
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May 27, 2016 01:40
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:And if you don't fork out for Horizons you never will If you don't have Horizons, you don't get the engineer upgrades? Also how is the RES paying out now?
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May 27, 2016 01:55
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Capn Beeb posted:If you don't have Horizons, you don't get the engineer upgrades?
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May 27, 2016 02:01
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Capn Beeb posted:Also how is the RES paying out now? I'm about breaking even on bounties and repairs, with enough left over for a space-coffee in the station lobby.
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May 27, 2016 02:03
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May 27, 2016 02:12
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Capn Beeb posted:If you don't have Horizons, you don't get the engineer upgrades? Seems alright? 74k from a Federation dropship in a HighRez, 104k from an AspE in a Haz. E: By alright I mean they seem about what they were pre-patch. I'd like it if a ship having a goddamn shield cell doubled its bounty. 
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May 27, 2016 02:22
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One of the engineers wants meta-alloys before she'll do anything for you. Don't bother going yet - barnacles are bugged and none of the pillars are spawning, even in solo. It's currently impossible to get meta-alloys.
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May 27, 2016 02:29
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Goddamnit I just came back from a long break and sold a big stack of those as I was still parked outside a wrecked 'conda in the rear end end of nowhere. Did anything ever come of those barnacles and distress signals, and the station services failing and whatnot?
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May 27, 2016 02:33
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Of course - there's been a wide variety of community loving goals on the subject
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May 27, 2016 02:36
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TRON JEREMY posted:One of the engineers wants meta-alloys before she'll do anything for you. Don't bother going yet - barnacles are bugged and none of the pillars are spawning, even in solo. It's currently impossible to get meta-alloys. lol Also the other FSD engineer wants Soontil Relics and word has it they don't sell them no 'mo.
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May 27, 2016 02:36
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TRON JEREMY posted:One of the engineers wants meta-alloys before she'll do anything for you. Don't bother going yet - barnacles are bugged and none of the pillars are spawning, even in solo. It's currently impossible to get meta-alloys. You can, however, get them from various NPC cargo haulers and as mission rewards though.
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KakerMix posted:You can, however, get them from various NPC cargo haulers and as mission rewards though. another RNG! 
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:another RNG! I want to feel like I've EARNED these meta alloys, you see.
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it's kind of fun waiting. merope is a parking lot. somebody got their scarab stuck under my ship
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Did anyone else get some extra credits? I compared it with what I had in a screenshot from March. I didn't do much earning since then. I have about 40-45 million more credits than I did when I last played. Not that I'm complaining or anything.
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May 27, 2016 02:44
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The official forums have set me straight. The AI is actually still too easy, slightly, rewards for killing them are too high, and all I really need to do is "git gud". It's like a forum full of YouTube comments.
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May 27, 2016 02:51
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May 27, 2016 02:52
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So RES is now not very good because of NPCs being able to mount equipment you don't have and wreck you with no reward increase. Robigo has been nuked from orbit so that's dead. How are new mission rewards? Because it sounds like trading is it which if I want to loving truck I play ES2 or buy ATS.
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May 27, 2016 03:00
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The barnacles might be tapped out, according to cryptic hints from Fdev dropped to specific groups. There might be fresh barnacles somewhere but no one is sure yet, or if anyone knows they are not telling. You can now find MAs in the holds of random trucker NPCs like the rest of the commodities you need for engineers, you can also get them as mission rewards.
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Is there any stations in Li Yong space that has a good mix of trading and combat missions? I'm interested in setting up somewhere.
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I think bounties are less. Took out a dangerous Anaconda and it was $110K with a full kill-warrant scan. I would have expected closer to $150 before I think.
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So let me get this straight, getting meta alloys from barnacles, a fun and thematically appropriate thing to do, and which exposes new players to things they might not have done before, has been replaced by grinding npcs for random drops.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:So RES is now not very good because of NPCs being able to mount equipment you don't have and wreck you with no reward increase. Robigo has been nuked from orbit so that's dead. How are new mission rewards? Because it sounds like trading is it which if I want to loving truck I play ES2 or buy ATS. Until you get interdicted by superAI.
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rex rabidorum vires posted:So RES is now not very good because of NPCs being able to mount equipment you don't have and wreck you with no reward increase. Best compromise I found is to do HiRes and tag along behind the cops to join in on their kills, but it's not very satisfying when 4 anacondas are kicking the poo poo out of all comers and you're just stealing scraps off the table.
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slidebite posted:I think bounties are less. Took out a dangerous Anaconda and it was $110K with a full kill-warrant scan. I would have expected closer to $150 before I think. Nah some high-rank Anacondas had bounties in the 80-100k range even before the patch.
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Hierophant posted:So let me get this straight, getting meta alloys from barnacles, a fun and thematically appropriate thing to do, and which exposes new players to things they might not have done before, has been replaced by grinding npcs for random drops. Realism!
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What the poo poo is it that this game still has a devoted group of people that want it more punishing? Is this just the same "I got my billions early and now I want to be the Elite:Dangerous oligarch" or something? I hate to keep feeling like I'm shitposting in this thread but Elite hurts me. It is so close to being awesome, if they could just give it character and make it feel sensible to play a few hours a week and not cater to grognards (who for argument I assume are already in min-maxed anacondas and only fight when they know they'll win) who tell me I'm "playing the game wrong" because I want to fly a Clipper before dumping 200 hours into the lifeless husk. Frontier please bring back Robigo and then balance all progress to +/- 20% of that instead of Robigo being like +200% the rest of the game. Nothing kills me like "Trading is good (if you have a 120mil ship and load out)!" "Bounty hunting is easy money (with a 70mil full kitted ship in these circumstances)!"
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radintorov posted:Currently the various Engineers can only be found at various planetary bases, so you need Horizons to land on them. That's understandable but still kinda blows. Arrath posted:Seems alright? 74k from a Federation dropship in a HighRez, 104k from an AspE in a Haz. Was hoping for a bump but at least it didn't go down I guess?  rex rabidorum vires posted:So RES is now not very good because of NPCs being able to mount equipment you don't have and wreck you with no reward increase. This however is some hot garbage.
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Panch posted:What the poo poo is it that this game still has a devoted group of people that want it more punishing? Is this just the same "I got my billions early and now I want to be the Elite:Dangerous oligarch" or something? Just the usual brand of people who equate inconvenience with "Hardcore difficulty". See also, item durability in the vast majority of games with item durability. You know, people who will tell you that you don't need credits for anything, such as exploring. Then dismiss you if you if you so much as point out that gas and fuelscoops cost credits. Very rarely will anyone telling you to just suck it up in a stock sidewinder and "Just enjoy the game, anything else means you are a mindless grinder  ", be in a position where they are stuck in a sidewinder. Though I am sure there is at least one dedicated player who has hit triple elite piloting nothing but a Stock Sidewinder the whole time.But really, that kind of mentality can be found in every game with anything approaching tangible progress to be had. With the same defensiveness. Even shooters like Hawken back when I was playing it. "Levels and credits should take longer to gain! Also the Air Dash part that is level gated if you don't buy it early with Real Money is hot garbage we swear!" "My KDR literally flipped from negative 2, to positive 2 with the entire enemy team dominated about two hours after unlocking it" "Pfft, doesn't count! INCREASE the Grind!"
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Section Z posted:Just the usual brand of people who equate inconvenience with "Hardcore difficulty". See also, item durability in the vast majority of games with item durability. I suppose when I posted I more or less knew this, but you've hit the nail on the head. I have no problem making the Cutter and things like that take a lot of time and effort. I agree with the base premise that a little bit of "grind" can enrich the reward, but when the grind is balanced against "I play 10 hours every day" instead of "I have a house and a full time job" it's infuriating. The exploration thing is super annoying. I tried to explore (I guess because I love horrible procedural generation) in earlier ships, but a 60mil~ kitted Asp is so crazy heads and tails above anything else it feels insane to "enjoy" exploring in literally anything else. And it circles back around to grinding just to get to the dumb lifeless activity I'm trying to enjoy! I promise I'll be positive now and only post good things about Elite.
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There's a follow-up CG, also at Skvortsov. The launcher is dumb, and mentions it in two seperate articles. One says is starts on May 26, the other says it ends on May 26. https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/5747284b9657ba83162ffc95 (Deliver water purifiers, HE suits, and coffee to Skvortsov) Also, just FYI, I am awesome, and personally delivered over 5 kiltons of Narcotics for the previous CG (and got 3 million spacebucks for finishing in the top 10%). Zaardvark fucked around with this message at 04:22 on May 27, 2016 |
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