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May 27, 2016 05:32
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Okay, so, Veronica Dean killed that guy. I don't know how, but she did it. She's also the one behind all those weird insurance shell companies Cyril found. She's somehow rigged it so she gets the money if production stops, which it has and which is good for her since she drowning in dept. Pretty likely. Also she was cementing the time in Archer's mind for her alibi by repeating the time so much. He didn't look at a clock or anything, he was naked.
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May 27, 2016 05:40
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Okay, so, Veronica Dean killed that guy. I don't know how, but she did it. She's also the one behind all those weird insurance shell companies Cyril found. She's somehow rigged it so she gets the money if production stops, which it has and which is good for her since she drowning in dept. they made this patently clear, so there's gonna be yet another twist
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May 27, 2016 05:47
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taqueso posted:Thoughts on what CDL stands for? It's a Commercial Drivers License.
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May 27, 2016 06:07
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Okay, so, Veronica Dean killed that guy. I don't know how, but she did it. She's also the one behind all those weird insurance shell companies Cyril found. She's somehow rigged it so she gets the money if production stops, which it has and which is good for her since she drowning in dept.
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May 27, 2016 06:13
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Given that she didn't seem to recognise Archer, I'm wondering if the Veronica Dean that Archer saved in this episode is not the Veronica Dean he met in the mansion.
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May 27, 2016 06:47
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Jo Joestar posted:Given that she didn't seem to recognise Archer, I'm wondering if the Veronica Dean that Archer saved in this episode is not the Veronica Dean he met in the mansion. Do you think Kreiger might have had a Veronica Dean robot? Because I kind of do now. Either that or Veronica Dean is just bad at remembering names and/or faces.
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May 27, 2016 07:17
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Do you think Kreiger might have had a Veronica Dean robot? Because I kind of do now. Please not prosopagnosia. I don't need more 999 in my life.
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May 27, 2016 07:51
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Does anyone else really dislike the silhouettes sliding onto the screen with the little spy jingle at commercial breaks this season? I feel like after a scene-ending joke it drags out the moment a few seconds too long and ruins the timing, where a quick cut is usually a lot funnier.
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May 27, 2016 08:14
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WilliamAnderson posted:Please not prosopagnosia. I don't need more 999 in my life. First off, yes you do. Second, you'll get it next month. ShakeZula posted:I feel like it's going to turn out that she left Archer in the dressing room in time to kill Ellis at 2:14, but just because she said it was almost 3 so many times he believed her and never bothered to check. We don't know how long it was between her leaving and Lana arriving, and "too lazy to check a clock"' seems like a very Archer way to accidentally provide an alibi to a murderer. I'm half expecting the watch to have been an elaborate set-up that was entirely useless because Archer is lazy. On the other hand Deen being the killer seems a little obvious. I also expect Shapiro's gun to have been the murder weapon.
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May 27, 2016 08:48
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Okay, so, Veronica Dean killed that guy. I don't know how, but she did it. She's also the one behind all those weird insurance shell companies Cyril found. She's somehow rigged it so she gets the money if production stops, which it has and which is good for her since she drowning in dept. I'm guessing that Veronica Dean has some sort of weird multiple personality disorder thing going on, and her lawyer has been helping to cover it up. Also that the guy driving the tow truck hauling Archer around will be killed. Then, after all the complicated plot twists are revealed, Archer will say something like, "Wait, did we ever figure out who killed my driver?" Then cut to credits. I know it's a semi-obscure reference, but it's not that obscure, and this is a show that does obscure references all the freaking time. thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 09:57 on May 27, 2016 |
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May 27, 2016 09:23
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sticklefifer posted:Does anyone else really dislike the silhouettes sliding onto the screen with the little spy jingle at commercial breaks this season? I feel like after a scene-ending joke it drags out the moment a few seconds too long and ruins the timing, where a quick cut is usually a lot funnier. While I agree that fast cuts can be funny if a joke is dropped immediately before, the animation and jingle is a reference to Charlie's Angels, as that's exactly how they always went to commercial break.
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May 27, 2016 10:55
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There has to be more to it than that. Why didn't anyone hear the gunshot? And why would Veronica Dean make such a big deal as to the exact time unless she knew the watch would would give an exact time of death? I'm guessing he was killed earlier and the whole thing was setup somehow.
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May 27, 2016 12:32
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With the whole not remembering Archer thing, and her repeated insistence on what time it was, I just assume she was a robot or otherwise doppelganger too. e: oh, one other thing. Mallory to just skulk around in the shadows, I caught him once doing so, but did he do it throughout the episode? I kept forgetting to pay attention to backgrounds. rafikki fucked around with this message at 13:35 on May 27, 2016 |
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May 27, 2016 13:33
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ShakeZula posted:I feel like it's going to turn out that she left Archer in the dressing room in time to kill Ellis at 2:14, but just because she said it was almost 3 so many times he believed her and never bothered to check. We don't know how long it was between her leaving and Lana arriving, and "too lazy to check a clock"' seems like a very Archer way to accidentally provide an alibi to a murderer. Unless the show is going to rely on some extremely cheap shenanigans, we know that there wasn't much, or really any, time between Veronica leaving and Lana arriving. If you watch it again, you'll see that there is no cut after she announces that it's almost the stroke of 3 and leaves the room. The scene continues to proceed smoothly and with no cuts (cuts that would allow for a time shift) until Lana enters the room. I timed it, and the amount of time between when Veronica opens the door and when Lana shows up is 15 seconds. Besides, it couldn't have been too long of a period of time, even if we didn't have 15 seconds of continuous footage of Archer to prove it. I mean, there wasn't enough time for the aroma of Veronica's formerly cobwebby old snooch to dissipate appreciably.
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May 27, 2016 14:21
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thrakkorzog posted:I'm guessing that Veronica Dean has some sort of weird multiple personality disorder thing going on, and her lawyer has been helping to cover it up. Also that the guy driving the tow truck hauling Archer around will be killed. Then, after all the complicated plot twists are revealed, Archer will say something like, "Wait, did we ever figure out who killed my driver?" Then cut to credits. The Longwater disc contains images of Veronica Deane in a Chinese dress sitting in a Chinese chair. How scandalous!
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May 27, 2016 18:34
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counterfeitsaint posted:There has to be more to it than that. Why didn't anyone hear the gunshot? And why would Veronica Dean make such a big deal as to the exact time unless she knew the watch would would give an exact time of death? I'm guessing he was killed earlier and the whole thing was setup somehow. Twin Veronica Deans, also the lawyer's gun is going to be found or used in some manner.
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May 27, 2016 18:43
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Please ignore my previous statement, it was an ill-advised attempt at levity.
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May 27, 2016 21:07
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There's also the possibility that Ellis's watch was incorrect, or deliberately set to the wrong time.
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May 27, 2016 21:54
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Or that a bullet traveling through the face of a watch would move the hands significantly.
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May 27, 2016 22:12
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Wasn't the lawyer with Pam and Cheryl at the time? Lana seems like the most likely patsy.
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May 27, 2016 22:39
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criscodisco posted:Or that a bullet traveling through the face of a watch would move the hands significantly. Yeah, the Archer universe tends to take things seriously that other shows don't. For example, getting knocked out is no big deal on literally every other show that isn't a medical drama, but on Archer, someone will tell you (when you wake up) that you should see a doctor because getting knocked out is "super-bad for you." I find it difficult to believe that they want us to suspend our disbelief enough to imagine that shooting a wristwatch could possibly leave the watch in any condition that reveals the time the watch was shot. The fact of the matter is, the only people saying that it happened at 2:14 are a pair of bumbling detectives, and their only evidence is a watch that's been shot. It could be totally inaccurate. And even if it is accurate, the only one saying that Veronica was with Archer until almost exactly 3:00 was Veronica, and Archer never bothered to verify that that was the actual time. And, it's very possible that the whole emphasis on the crack of 3:00 is a red herring anyway; the guy maybe was killed at 2:14 by the world's most carefully destructive bullet by someone who wasn't having the cobwebs swept off of her disused snooch.
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May 27, 2016 22:42
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Aren't these bumbling detectives not actually police officers? Didn't they run away when the police chief showed up to the hostage situation, and didn't he expressly ask "who were those guys"?
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May 27, 2016 22:45
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My Q-Face posted:Aren't these bumbling detectives not actually police officers? Didn't they run away when the police chief showed up to the hostage situation, and didn't he expressly ask "who were those guys"? I've been wondering about that, but I figured them running away was more that they didn't want responsibility for the failing hostage negotiations. If they aren't cops, why pretend to be cops when no-one is watching them in the first episode? taqueso fucked around with this message at 23:06 on May 27, 2016 |
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May 27, 2016 23:03
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My Q-Face posted:Aren't these bumbling detectives not actually police officers? Didn't they run away when the police chief showed up to the hostage situation, and didn't he expressly ask "who were those guys"? I took it as them quickly passing the buck to the SWAT team lead with a jokey ending line to the scene.
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May 27, 2016 23:04
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taqueso posted:I've been wondering about that, but I figured them running away was more that they didn't want responsibility for the failing hostage negotiations. Maybe they're just really dedicated method actors.
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May 27, 2016 23:17
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the running gag of Archer not being able to drive his Italian sports car is hilarious to me
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May 27, 2016 23:33
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Speaking of Veronica Deanes, did anyone else notice that the impostor in the first one had Katya's voice? The wiki confirms that she was voiced by Ona Grauer. taqueso posted:Thoughts on what CDL stands for? Canadian Down Low
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May 27, 2016 23:56
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Maybe they're just really dedicated method actors. This is my thinking. They are up for roles as detectives and have method acted their way into the police force.
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May 28, 2016 00:04
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swickles posted:This is my thinking. They are up for roles as detectives and have method acted their way into the police force. Jives with one saying "wow you're really good at this".
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May 28, 2016 00:08
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Didn't one of the arrest Lana for stalking?
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May 28, 2016 01:30
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Yeah, the bald blackish cop arrested Lana in episode 3. They're at least somewhat legit.
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May 28, 2016 03:57
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tarlibone posted:I find it difficult to believe that they want us to suspend our disbelief enough to imagine that shooting a wristwatch could possibly leave the watch in any condition that reveals the time the watch was shot. In advance, not a modern pistol, religious hoohah, mormons don't believe this, yada yada yada
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May 28, 2016 05:41
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Carlosologist posted:the running gag of Archer not being able to drive his Italian sports car is hilarious to me
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May 28, 2016 07:39
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Problematic Pigeon posted:The Longwater disc contains images of Veronica Deane in a Chinese dress sitting in a Chinese chair. How scandalous! Blame the Hays Code. Seriously, what decade is this? thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 10:45 on May 28, 2016 |
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May 28, 2016 10:18
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DarklyDreaming posted:I wonder if this is how Tenzing Norgay always feels? Yay, another episode with a highbrow reference that I have to loving Google! sticklefifer posted:Does anyone else really dislike the silhouettes sliding onto the screen with the little spy jingle at commercial breaks this season? I feel like after a scene-ending joke it drags out the moment a few seconds too long and ruins the timing, where a quick cut is usually a lot funnier. They were a fun touch the first few times, but are overplayed at this point.
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May 28, 2016 23:25
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I like them a lot but they do kinda break the flow a bit. Still though. 
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May 28, 2016 23:28
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CBJSprague24 posted:Yay, another episode with a highbrow reference that I have to loving Google! I wouldn't call that highbrow at all. If you asked anyone to name you a mountain climber and they had an answer at all, it would be Tenzing Norgay/Edmund Hillary
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May 29, 2016 01:04
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Henchman of Santa posted:I wouldn't call that highbrow at all. If you asked anyone to name you a mountain climber and they had an answer at all, it would be Tenzing Norgay/Edmund Hillary Maybe not a highbrow reference, but definitely an obscure one. Because, in reality, if you asked anyone to name a mountain climber, there's an extremely good chance that they wouldn't be able to name anyone at all.
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May 29, 2016 01:17
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JollyPubJerk posted:they made this patently clear, so there's gonna be yet another twist Yeah, I had the same thought. That leaves Shapiro as the only (?) non-ISIS character around with a connection to the main characters, and he has good reasons to shoot both Crane and (Kriegerbot) Archer to boot.
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May 29, 2016 01:20
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