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Weirdos in Bond villain lairs building absurd contraptions if no one else can help and you know where to find them is boring? Boring would be 'well done star commando 4th class, take this rank badge and heat damage railgun'.
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May 28, 2016 00:27
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Boring is the grind this game has become.
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May 28, 2016 00:31
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Always funny when people play a sandbox but get bored and confused without a flashing arrow over the next waypoint and a dot point mission list.
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May 28, 2016 00:40
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The apparent change to the lighting system on planets is cool. There's a lot more obvious visual variety between planets orbiting different colors of stars, which goes well with the surface enhancements. And the performance optimization is just great. EDIT: Does anyone know what's the significance of an orange cargo container instead of the typical blue? Not finding any info from some initial searching. timn fucked around with this message at 01:17 on May 28, 2016 |
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May 28, 2016 00:47
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DancingShade posted:Always funny when people play a sandbox but get bored and confused without a flashing arrow over the next waypoint and a dot point mission list. E:D is not really a "sandbox" though, you can't build or change anything other than your bank account balance.
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Hierophant posted:E:D is not really a "sandbox" though, you can't build or change anything other than your bank account balance. That's the real problem. It's a sandbox, we have shovels, but even with our shovels we can barely move the sand.
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There's 100 billion stars in the milky way, literally every person on earth could have ten stars, yet the devs seem completely terrified of the idea of player owned anything.
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I'm sure the people who play FSX get pissed that they can't buy airports.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I'm sure the people who play FSX get pissed that they can't buy airports. At this point I can't even tell if he is ironically posting. Or is this like a deep meta wherein he posts on behalf of the frontier forum masses?
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Knifegrab posted:At this point I can't even tell if he is ironically posting. Or is this like a deep meta wherein he posts on behalf of the frontier forum masses? I think that's almost all of us at this point. The lines where we all complain about something, and then sass someone else later for complaining about the same thing blur more as time goes by.
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Knifegrab posted:At this point I can't even tell if he is ironically posting. Or is this like a deep meta wherein he posts on behalf of the frontier forum masses? your a garbage poster all t all shade
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As the days slowed and time began to cease so too did the arguments. The grind is good became the grind simply was. And so it went on until the end of time, a grind which was neither good nor bad. A grind to ships that were all the same in a galaxy filled with the same stars and masses. Space hauling became space living. Elite wasn't just a game, it was my career.
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I'm sure the people who play FSX get pissed that they can't buy airports. But they can: http://www.fseconomy.net/
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Truga posted:But they can: http://www.fseconomy.net/ This link sent my AV software crazy and I've never seen it do that lmao
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZN_yZ07-18 Someone post that everything is fine jpeg.
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Xae posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZN_yZ07-18 Umm its Elite: Dangerous not Elite: Game People Play for Fun 
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Zest posted:This right here was my last straw. Why they chose to go this route, I don't know, but it's just... boring Can I gently caress inside your ships? A ship unfucked in is a shame.
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Friends, I am beginning to worry that Frontier doesn't know what makes games fun.
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Toops posted:Friends, I am beginning to worry that Frontier doesn't know what makes games fun. There is a fight going on inside Frontier and I wonder who is winning.
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Toops posted:Friends, I am beginning to worry that Frontier doesn't know what makes games fun. It's okay, you do; that's why you're making one. 
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nightwisher posted:FDev are the kind of people who care more about the headcannon of whatever stupid dumb thing they implemented than how the playerbase reacts to it and how good or bad it is for the game. Engineer-modded weapons could simply have been folded into the standard weapon selection and leave the actual module enhancement as a recipe you use. I'm glad they added deterministic ways to choose the special effect, but it just seems like a hell of a stretch of REALISM to have these genius tinkerers literally just throwing poo poo together and being like "Hey i uh just trivially invented an entirely new weapon concept, um take it i guess". I think people (including me) would've been more or less fine if not slightly disappointed with what the engineers offered if they hadn't put the gun special effects literally as a headline feature of this patch. When they reduced the probability and everyone started bitching they came up with that lame-rear end excuse for not being able to choose your thing, but whatever, we got our deterministic way to get them so v  v.They really need to learn to manage people's expecations and stop pulling the rug from under people.
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Is there a support group for people like me who still have fun in the space game.
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Kurr de la Cruz posted:Out of curiosity: what are people looking for, exactly, content-wise? Everyone always throws that line around, no content, mile wide, inch deep etc etc, but I never really got what people are expecting. There seems to be plenty of stuff to do in the game, especially now that there's this whole randomized loot/farming/grinding thing added in. Lots of interesting ways to customize your ship. Like at what point do you say "OK, there's an adequate amount of things to do"? The game needed to go in the direction of more stuff to do. Instead it went in the direction of more things to grind. Game design has been in an insane devolution phase since cod4, where almost all multiplayer games are focused almost entirely on an endless treadmill of "you got stuff, means you had fun" at the expense of things being actually fun. There's no need of endlessly patching in new things to grind, just things to do. If they're fun, people will enjoy them. It doesn't matter if you eventually hit an endgame state where money is meaningless if the mechanics are good and you get the urge to do (insert activity you find fun here) every once in a while, because the entire loving reason to play games is to have fun, not to jack off in some faux-work environment where you don't actually earn anything real. What discourages people from playing is when you put in a bunch of bullshit that they have to grind for if they want to feel like they're doing that enjoyable activity "right". A lot of the things in the game are indeed a mile wide and an inch deep. Simple things like adding new, different spawns to various zones, reworking combat zones to have more of an ebb and flow rather than just a nonstop single-level orgy of combat... Just making more of the things the game already had fun would have kept people going. K8.0 fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 28, 2016 |
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spaph posted:It's okay, you do; that's why you're making one. Why yes. Yes I do. It's immersive getting into your cockpit animations. Unskippable, of course. 
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grilldos posted:Is there a support group for people like me who still have fun in the space game. Discord I guess.
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K8.0 posted:There's no need of endlessly patching in new things to grind, just things to do. If they're fun, people will enjoy them. It doesn't matter if you eventually hit an endgame state where money is meaningless if the mechanics are good and you get the urge to do (insert activity you find fun here) every once in a while, because the entire loving reason to play games is to have fun, not to jack off in some faux-work environment where you don't actually earn anything real. What discourages people from playing is when you put in a bunch of bullshit that they have to grind for if they want to feel like they're doing that enjoyable activity "right". Conversely, adding things to achieve while doing the things you already do in the game adds to some people's enjoyment. I get your point tho, but it seems like you and the developers see things differently.
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KakerMix posted:There is a fight going on inside Frontier and I wonder who is winning. Sarah Jane Anderson is winning.
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Xae posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZN_yZ07-18 The people who make this game are unintelligent.
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Xae posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZN_yZ07-18 What's the big problem? I don't see anyth- 
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Gonna reiterate that grind and weirdness would be 100% more tolerable if the game had any more character than Microsoft Samantha telling you if your docking request was approved. Really what is any game with leveling and progress but a grind? It's all in how you dress it up. Elite does no dressing but for some reason when someone says "this is really boring" they interpret it to mean everyone was bored because they were too extreme. Oops I got drunk and posted about this bad game again. Anime Store Adventure fucked around with this message at 04:15 on May 28, 2016 |
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Good news! They added Space Traffic Control which helps a lot for that immersion! Sorry to interrupt the circlejerk D:
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Good news! They added Space Traffic Control which helps a lot for that immersion! I think this is good and cool.
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"Check it out guys! Now, after much grinding, you can upgrade your ship more!" "Why bother?" "Ehm..."
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Spent an hour or two running a quad stack of missions retrieving poo poo from a planet. Can't turn them in now. A++ Would patch again. I'm going to miss that 250k I could have earned!
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Xae posted:Elite Dangerous 2.1: The Grind Will Increase Until Morale Improves
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You guys weren't kidding about the AI difficulty bump. While pootling back into the bubble I was repeatedly interdicted in my Python by a single Deadly-rated Cobra IV. This is my Python http://coriolis.io/outfit/python/06...o%20Communicate The Cobra IV proceeded to shred my shields in under 2 seconds and managed during our first tangle to stay entirely out of my forward hemisphere. I got away, only for him to interdict me .5ls from the station I was heading for. This time I managed to actually shoot him up somewhat but in dealing a paltry 14% damage to him, he once more stripped my shields and did 26% hull damage before I jumped to cruise again. THEN he appears right behind me as I'm within 7km of the station and proceeds to try finishing the job. I chanced the no-fire-zone violation fine to put a stop to it though it was the station and its interceptors that really did the job. Holy. poo poo. So basically I just hosed off my bottom-tier powerplay alignment because dealing with that poo poo every 2 minutes and risking a 3.5mil rebuy because of bullshit reasons is not on my list of cool and fun things to do. P.S. Any build tips for that Python would be appreciated. It was previously used mostly for supplementing my income with Robigo shuffling hence its slight underspeccing. Same goes for my Clipper http://coriolis.io/outfit/imperial_...l%20End%20Badly Hexenritter fucked around with this message at 05:34 on May 28, 2016 |
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