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scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

IOwnCalculus posted:

Are you subscribed to Finnegan's Garage on Youtube?



You should be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjmuSyg2CS0
That burnout had me thinking "how would Red Green solve this?"

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Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски
James May assembles a 1950's lawn mower and other things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZgEI626Kw

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Preoptopus posted:

James May assembles a 1950's lawn mower and other things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giZgEI626Kw

His calibrated torque wrench at about 4 minutes is great.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

Uthor posted:

His calibrated torque wrench at about 4 minutes is great.

Episode #2: "It does take me back, much like meeting a kid with the mumps."

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpiiv4Nq0H8

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





I don't really understand the point of government spending money to destroy private property. Then again, I don't really understand why we allow our government to seize private property in the first place.

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

I don't agree with destroying it, but seizing it is a different story.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/17/nypd-crushes-illegal-dirt-bikes-as-a-message-to-knuckleheads/

quote:

We want to send out a very strong message to the nitwits and knuckleheads who insist on operating these illegal vehicles on the streets, sidewalks, parks, and housing developments of the city of New York, creating extraordinary danger not only for themselves but more importantly for the public, said Bratton after the crushing.

Bratton said the seizures of the illegal vehicles are up 96 percent from last year, with 679 of them confiscated by cops so far this year. As of this year, a total of 104 operators of the vehicles have been arrested on reckless-endangerment charges.

Applebees Appetizer fucked around with this message at 05:16 on May 18, 2016

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





My problem with seizure of private property is that it is very commonly done without due process, with the owners having no way to reclaim the property without spending a lot of time and money. I still believe in innocent until proven guilty, yet the property seizure's typically assume guilt, and immediately take the property. I'm not necessarily talking about these specific vehicles, as I've got no way to know the circumstances of each of them, but it wouldn't shock me at all to find out that someone who ended up with dropped charges, or reduced charges still had their property destroyed here.

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

The Locator posted:

My problem with seizure of private property is that it is very commonly done without due process, with the owners having no way to reclaim the property without spending a lot of time and money. I still believe in innocent until proven guilty, yet the property seizure's typically assume guilt, and immediately take the property. I'm not necessarily talking about these specific vehicles, as I've got no way to know the circumstances of each of them, but it wouldn't shock me at all to find out that someone who ended up with dropped charges, or reduced charges still had their property destroyed here.

You'll be happy to know that cash can be seized if the officer deems it as 'drug money' in VA.
No proof required that it is drug money, only suspicion. The fact that you're carrying a large sum (like, a month's rent) of money is considered reasonable-enough suspicion to declare it drug money.


I'm all for sending messages, but why destroy all those bikes? Why not donate them, or SOMETHING, instead of creating more waste.

drzrma
Dec 29, 2008

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

You'll be happy to know that cash can be seized if the officer deems it as 'drug money' in VA.
No proof required that it is drug money, only suspicion. The fact that you're carrying a large sum (like, a month's rent) of money is considered reasonable-enough suspicion to declare it drug money.


I'm all for sending messages, but why destroy all those bikes? Why not donate them, or SOMETHING, instead of creating more waste.

Not just in VA, most states I believe. Alternatively it's done while cooperating with a federal agency, which allows them to split any assets seized between the federal agency and the locals. Highway robbery never went away, the robbers just realized it was easier if you had a shiny tin star on your chest.

And yeah, all those cheap ebay spare parts just gone, all to send a message that will be ignored by the people it's supposedly targeted at.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
A large number of them are stolen. I'd rather see them returned to their rightful owners, TBH.

Lawless dirtbike/atv troublemakers are becoming a serious problem in some cities though. Boston just started up the same sort of thing, they are mostly unregistered, uninsured, ridden like absolute dickheads, by absolute dickheads, and they're more than happy to run from the police if anyone even bothers to try pursuing them because they know a cruiser can't keep up.

Quite frankly I'm surprised they managed to seize that many.

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
Hey, this was found on YouTube and is apropos of the current discussion!

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
Civil forfeiture is absolute bullshit.

Then again, it's a different issue from seizing the cars and bikes and ATVs of lawless fuckheads and teaching them a lesson. Not sure quite where I stand on that, especially if they aren't convicted.

Youtube search for "boston bike life":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfFCx69P7oI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWdJNoOZqDU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMsdw2IrSfE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdkWbtyAmPE

Here's a great example, those honks are frustrated drivers who are being blocked by a giant group of "bikelife" douchebags, they only disperse when the cops are on the way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uHzyieFhDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCLXau1vrR4

"New York bike life":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-8QfpdlfEw

1:20 or so, there's a great example of why this poo poo should be shut down, a biker and an ATV collide when they almost rearend a squadcar with the lights on. 3:40, a "do not chase" tshirt, clear sign of a responsible operator:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09axl-GVIuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ci06BzA5g

Police arresting one in Atlanta:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeP5cTvDqRc

Wrecks, hit-and-runs, and police chases:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oo-W3edSz0
more wrecks, more police chases, what looks like a really nasty compound ankle fracture at like 2:30:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vR9UBKdaG8

Miami, gun stuck in someone's pants at 2:20, soundtrack is a great example of what's wrong with this too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo56UBLBQ7I

Wheelies everywhere, burnouts, no safety gear, no registration, no insurance, incredibly unsafe operation in general, running red lights, blocking traffic during green lights, riding in the bike lane, going the wrong way, crossing the double yellow, sideshows, you'll see it all. In a few cases dirtbike/atv gangs have decided they own the road and caused accidents with a car, then chased them down. It's like a cross between GTA and Mad Max and it's really not OK.

It does look like a hell of a lot of fun, and there are some pretty skilled stunt riders involved who do some cool poo poo - if no one else lived there. Seeing as they're loving up the roads for literally everyone else in the city and not only don't feel bad about that, they're reveling in it, they can go straight to hell.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Remember that canadian nissan micra series where you could buy a car for $20k and go racing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJkmAFi0nI4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IesHgXGd8E

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
I think that's the first time I audibly shouted "oh my god" at my computer. Is this a Nissan sanctioned event? Are they having second thoughts, haha?

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

kastein posted:

bikelife

There are a bunch of d-bags in STL that do similar stuff. Every year they have the "RIDE OF THE CENTURY" which is basically just a mob of them taking over the streets of St Louis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgH9yQzsHlE

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Powershift posted:

Remember that canadian nissan micra series where you could buy a car for $20k and go racing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJkmAFi0nI4

This is terrible, but I can't stop laughing. I can feel that guy's frustration as he bumper taps the guy in front of him.

"IT'S THE ONE ON THE RIGHT. THE GODDAMN LONG SKINNY PEDAL. gently caress YOU STUPID gently caress MOVE!"

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


#bikelife

There's a superb documentary on this whole thing called '12 O'clock Boys' which is well worth a watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOMQY6k16TU

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

kastein posted:

Civil forfeiture is absolute bullshit.

Then again, it's a different issue from seizing the cars and bikes and ATVs of lawless fuckheads and teaching them a lesson. Not sure quite where I stand on that, especially if they aren't convicted.


It's ALWAYS bullshit if they are not convicted or havent basically plead guilty. Even if they are caught red handed, I'll only accept impounded until due process has gone the full course. After that.... yeah okay, seizure is acceptible, just. That's a legit part of the punishment.

Even if they are loving shitrags, due process MUST be done. Even if said due process is removing themselves from the gene pool without harming others.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

GnarlyCharlie4u posted:

You'll be happy to know that cash can be seized if the officer deems it as 'drug money' in VA.
No proof required that it is drug money, only suspicion. The fact that you're carrying a large sum (like, a month's rent) of money is considered reasonable-enough suspicion to declare it drug money.


I'm all for sending messages, but why destroy all those bikes? Why not donate them, or SOMETHING, instead of creating more waste.

Various states seem to like destroying things that still have utility and value if they deem it "bad." It's why serviceable firearms are often destroyed after being turned in to states or seized legally rather than reselling them or even saving the historically relevant ones for museums.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

It's ALWAYS bullshit if they are not convicted or havent basically plead guilty. Even if they are caught red handed, I'll only accept impounded until due process has gone the full course. After that.... yeah okay, seizure is acceptible, just. That's a legit part of the punishment.

Even if they are loving shitrags, due process MUST be done. Even if said due process is removing themselves from the gene pool without harming others.

A lot of it is whole piles of intertwining bullshit. Young black men who will be stopped and harassed regardless of the legality of their vehicle, so why not use something they have a chance to run with. Once they're caught they can sit in jail until a court date or plead guilty and get out immediately.

If you're automatically placed on the wrong side of the law, you run with it. In for a penny, in for a pound.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
Not to mention it's probably the only time a lot of them feel free. If I lived in the hood with poo poo job prospects and had no money for a car you better believe I'd be illegally riding dirtbikes around.

The Prong Song
Sep 7, 2002


WHITE
DRIVES
MATTER

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

Not to mention it's probably the only time a lot of them feel free. If I lived in the hood with poo poo job prospects and had no money for a car you better believe I'd be illegally riding dirtbikes around.

Would you also choose to hit people (killing them instantly) and then ride off? How about get insulted by someone being white and driving in your hood, and drag them from their car and beat them into the hospital in front of their wife and child? How about a huge gang of you and your buddies ride up to cop cars, cause damage to them, and ride off at high speed through traffic? gently caress it, man, it's all about feeling free.

Anarchist Mae
Nov 5, 2009

by Reene
Lipstick Apathy
Roadkill 50th Episode Special! 10-Car Showdown!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFg3abe8NF4

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


This Fairlane is mad as balls, I love it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UonisqLOnXo

427 SOHC Cammer best motor.

KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 19:25 on May 20, 2016

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe

Measly Twerp posted:

Roadkill 50th Episode Special! 10-Car Showdown!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFg3abe8NF4
Aww man, this is a good one :allears: I love that vettecart

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti
lmao that some idiot made some sort of pipe bomb threat against them for turning that piece of junk into a masterpiece

angryhampster
Oct 21, 2005

The new episode is on Motor Trend on Demand. It's pretty excellent. :)

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

angryhampster posted:

The new episode is on Motor Trend on Demand. It's pretty excellent. :)

theme song of that episode

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti
Normally it's Mustangs crashing when leaving Cars and Coffee, but stupidity knows no bounds and someone wrecks a pretty nice drag prepped Camaro instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHA6DimbkgY

Valt
May 14, 2006

Oh HELL yeah.
Ultra Carp

`Nemesis posted:

Normally it's Mustangs crashing when leaving Cars and Coffee, but stupidity knows no bounds and someone wrecks a pretty nice drag prepped Camaro instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHA6DimbkgY

I'm the handicap sticker.

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

Cars and Coffee needs mandatory signage at exists that simply says, "Don't Lift".

kill me now
Sep 14, 2003

Why's Hank crying?

'CUZ HE JUST GOT DUNKED ON!

Valt posted:

I'm the handicap sticker.

I'm the guy revving the poo poo out of the big dollar engine with a smashed up radiator

Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски
Pipers Parrots and Pure F1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1_cqop3LX0

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

kill me now posted:

I'm the guy revving the poo poo out of the big dollar engine with a smashed up radiator

I'm the guy waving at you to stop backing up, with no results

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


New Leno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBYpWmMi9-A


Valt posted:

I'm the handicap sticker.

I noticed this too. Arf.

toplitzin
Jun 13, 2003


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMc5Z3xJgUU

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009



Are there any "same announcer announcing the whole 24 hour race" audio streams?

I love hearing the descent into madness that comes along with those.

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRWz8Hj-ngY

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Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски

Ok I didnt see that comming. What are the chances of that shot lmfao

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