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I have shot plenty of video (for work even) with XE1. Manual video is fine with older Fuji body.
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May 27, 2016 15:40
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Isn't volume control not a huge deal either since you can just record audio on a dedicated device for things that need to sound good? I bought a Tascam DR-22WL a while back for a project that never panned out and for a $100 device it sounds pretty great and is super easy to use.
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May 27, 2016 17:25
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So Samyang's cheaper Chinese cousin, Meike is releasing 3 new APSC lens. They have mounts for Sony/Fuji/m43/Canon/Nikon too. The prices are quite cheap 28mm/2.8 $86 35mm/1.7 $90 50mm/2.0 $77 http://www.aliexpress.com/store/1196450 Don't asks me why they are in FF focal length instead of APSC appropriate focal length. Anyone want to give them a try.
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May 27, 2016 17:59
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Yeah RAW video isn't a deal breaker, but no volume control kind of is. You can use an external recorder and that's what I do, but it's more work in post and some people prefer to use a preamp setup that needs to plug in to the camera directly and the XPro2 still doesn't have a headphone jack and still uses a 2.5mm input that you'll probably have to adapt. Fuji lenses are also not ideal for video since they focus by wire and it's difficult to impossible to use any kind of follow focus system or find accurate focusing "stops". They also record at a low bit rate, 36 vs. the GH4's 100. No log recording options, no 4K, no clean HDMI output for external recorders, etc. etc. My X-T1 starts to overheat at around 45 minutes of continuous recording time. Granted these things are all "if you need it" kinda deals and it's totally fine for home movies but if you're actually looking to do professional video work, Fuji isn't the best.
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May 27, 2016 18:12
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whatever7 posted:So Samyang's cheaper Chinese cousin, Meike is releasing 3 new APSC lens. They have mounts for Sony/Fuji/m43/Canon/Nikon too. They're probably old manual focus lens designs (especially those ones with the old-school M42-type focusing rings) where all they did was reverse-engineer the existing design, adapt it for smaller/cheaper lenses and then call it good. The only thing even approaching a bargain with those lenses is the 35mm f/1.7, otherwise you might as well go find some old glass and a cheap adapter and get the same or better results for less money.
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May 27, 2016 18:44
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You can pick up the sigma 2.8 primes for MFT and E mount second hand for the same money.
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May 27, 2016 18:49
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learnincurve posted:You can pick up the sigma 2.8 primes for MFT and E mount second hand for the same money. Good point but these are in different focal length and are available in more mounts. Also there are other 35mm/1.7 c mount lens. If they have the 28mm/2.8 for cheap I wouldn't mind getting one to do a comparison with my AIS 28mm/2.8.
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May 27, 2016 19:43
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learnincurve posted:I have the Panasonic 14-42 and the olympus 14-42 and neither of them suck in fact they are both perfectly acceptable when used outside. Yeah man, they're all fine at f8. And I don't care about noise or fine image detail in these situations. I just want even performance in the center, with symmetrical decrease in sharpness toward the edges. There has to be at least one kit lens in the m43 lineup that has good centering across the zoom range.
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May 27, 2016 23:24
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I think you may have had a bad copy of the Panasonic 14-42. Most of them are amazingly sharp across the zoom range but there are a few dogs. I ended up giving mine to my mother so she could buy a body only and regret it.
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May 27, 2016 23:55
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I recently picked up a Wesley 34mm 1.7 lens for my Lumix G7, it's pretty awesome. Has the added benefit of making me concentrate on aperture/shutter speed to get exposure rather than relying on priority modes. http://www.ebay.com/itm/371620748530?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT If I wasn't so lazy I'd link some sample shots, but I haven't gone outside my backyard to test it out yet.
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May 28, 2016 01:49
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I've heard of a Michael lens, but never Wesley. I'm surprised there isn't a Thomas. learnincurve posted:I think you may have had a bad copy of the Panasonic 14-42. Most of them are amazingly sharp across the zoom range but there are a few dogs. I ended up giving mine to my mother so she could buy a body only and regret it. I think you're right, and I'm an idiot for not returning it when I was still within the window to do so. (KEH I thought you were better than this.. and you can't even keep my identity safe!) Speaking of which, has anyone else gotten a letter from KEH telling them that their servers got breached and they're offering free ID protection service to potentially affected customers?
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May 28, 2016 02:06
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It has a ridiculous DOF at 1.7 Sorry for the cat picture, but it shows it's decently sharp, pretty impressed for a $90 lens. This is straight from camera.  Whoops, totally missed focus on the eyes, got her ear instead.
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May 28, 2016 02:28
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Haha I also have that 33mm 1. 6 "Shanzhai" c-mount lens. Someone brought it for me directly from China. I think it was like $60. Only used it once though. It has this quirk that the focus ring floats back and fore, so I can't manually put a focus distance scale sticker on the focus ring. I tried to find some sample photos on my flickr page and to me surprise I don't have any. whatever7 fucked around with this message at 02:45 on May 28, 2016 |
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May 28, 2016 02:42
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XE2+18-55mm f/2.8-4 bundle $689 http://www.adorama.com/IFJXE2BK.html?utm_medium=Affiliate&utm_source=rflaid62905 Both black and silver versions available.
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May 28, 2016 05:39
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Is the X-Pro2 + a WR lens good enough to purposely shoot in the rain?
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May 28, 2016 14:17
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Anarkii posted:Is the X-Pro2 + a WR lens good enough to purposely shoot in the rain? Probably. I haven't had any issue with mine in the rain but I haven't shot in a heavy rain.
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May 28, 2016 22:25
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Picked up a X-Mount to M42 adapter to use all of my analog lenses. Man, this in combo with the focus peek is a dream.
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May 29, 2016 00:09
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Anarkii posted:Is the X-Pro2 + a WR lens good enough to purposely shoot in the rain? if you are "purposely" shooting in the rain, then get something like this: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/Rain-Capes-Covers-Slickers/ci/3313/N/4075788778 I mean, theoretically the camera & lens are weather sealed by why risk it when rain covers are so cheap? not to mention it's kind of a pain to shoot with a camera that is slippery from being in a downpour.
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May 29, 2016 01:27
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BlackMK4 posted:Picked up a X-Mount to M42 adapter to use all of my analog lenses. Man, this in combo with the focus peek is a dream. Any particular lenses you'd suggest trying out? I have an M42 adapter in the mail from amazon and picked up a Super Takumar 55/1.8 and 135/3.5 off of craigslist for $30 total today to get started, but other suggestions would be great.
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May 29, 2016 01:49
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The 35mm 3.5 super takumar is great, too.
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May 29, 2016 06:36
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This is a dumb question but is there a benefit to set the sensor to a lower resolution? For example, I have an a5100 which has a 24mp sensor. Is there any benefit if I set the camera to take 16mp photos?
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I've been using the GX85 and a6300 for the past day, and I think I'm going to return the a6300 and keep the GX85. The a6300 definitely has advantages over the Panasonic: the EFV looks much better, the AF is better, the battery lasts longer, supposedly weather-resistant, and right now the pics look better (because I bought the 35mm 1.8, while the GX85 is with the kit lens -- though I bet the Sony still has an edge overall). THAT SAID (and sure this is probably influenced by all of the stupid dumb reviews I have been reading over and over bc I am dumb): I hate feeling like Sony does not really "care" about this camera, aka overheating while recording 4K (happened to me on a warm-ish day), amazingly bad menu design, no touch screen, and poor lens selection (at least for me: I want something more wide-angle than 35mm, but still smallish and not crazy expensive). Just stupid design decisions that give me little faith that my user experience matters to them & makes it tough to spend $1400 on their stuff. I also honestly don't need the best AF performance, and it seems like that's where the Sony really rules. Also for whatever reason Panasonic is giving 3-year warranties on their cameras right now (if you send in proof of purchase), which tbh is sorta nice. SO I will keep the GX85 I think (still sorta want to get the XT-2 when it releases tho oops, or actually maybe X200). I'm looking at lenses, and it seems like the Panasonic 15mm 1.7 is what I should get. Any other recommendations for fast, wide-ish, smallish, not super expensive lenses? grahm fucked around with this message at 08:43 on May 29, 2016 |
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May 29, 2016 08:28
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your 2nd paragraph makes me think you're dumb for choosing the GX85 over the a6300 choosing a camera is all about touchy-feely "looks good" "sounds good" "feels good" intangibles, but you listed a ton of them with points towards sony the olympus 12mm and 17mm are generally better reviewed than their <20mm panasonic counterparts and have a nice "manual focus" ring snap, but the panasonic 25mm 1.4 is really good and has a half stop advantage.
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May 29, 2016 09:02
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Why are you putting money into a m43 if you really want Fuji? Buy a Fuji and then build your collection from there. If you stay with the GX85 and build up your m43 stuff, then it'll be more difficult to switch to Fuji later. I mean I'm hardly the biggest Fuji fan in the world, but drat.
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May 29, 2016 09:25
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I think we might be right back to fuji not being the best option for video.
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May 29, 2016 09:29
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Let's talk about how Fuji is not the best: They wanted to charge me $150 to put the connector door back on my out of warranty X-T1.
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May 29, 2016 10:04
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learnincurve posted:I think we might be right back to fuji not being the best option for video. But then why get a Fuji at all? It's not like the image quality out of an X-T2 is going to be worth keeping around two systems for. Honestly kinda sounds like grahm has a case of the gear lust that pretty much everyone has gone through. You said originally that you're using these for SM posts? Considering the amount of compression that IG and Twitter applies to pictures I think you might be way overthinking things. As for the problems with the a6300, overheating is definitely an issue, I shot with one last week and it overheated after maybe 25 minutes of recording in a hot as hell kitchen. I'd imagine that under normal room temperature you could probably get away with an hour or so. Depends on how much you need to shoot and if you need the 4K I guess. In your original post you mentioned that you were running up against limitations with your 6s+ which has a pretty drat fine camera. What limitations are those? If you described what doper/better looking pics means to you it might be a little easier to make a recommendation.
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not everyone must buy a Fuji that enters the thread and I made the same choice RE: feel vs features with Olympus VR a6000. You'll get better AF once you ditch the kit i would assume. I like the Panasonic 20 pancake, the first version but autofocus is slow. If that'll allow you to just throw the camera in your pocket I highly recommend it. Any of the 25s are good.
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May 29, 2016 13:06
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G85 is a good camera for the price.
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May 29, 2016 14:50
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It worries me when people read reviews and start chasing better bodies that are only one generation older than one they already have, like it's a magic bullet which will fix everything, when the reality is that the money would be much better spent on a trip to the zoo or a carnival.
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learnincurve posted:It worries me when people read reviews and start chasing better bodies that are only one generation older than one they already have, like it's a magic bullet which will fix everything, when the reality is that the money would be much better spent on a trip to the zoo or a carnival. That much is true. If you're a pro, and your business is paying for your gear, sure. Or if you're well-to-do and the difference in prices can be covered easily by your walking around money, ok. But the price difference between an a6000 and an a6300 would pay for a trip to Iceland (or a lot of other places besides).
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May 29, 2016 18:29
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It's easy to get caught up in gear hype though, so I understand the chase for shiny. I see these awesome photos from other photographers, look at what gear they are using, and imagine myself getting the same great photos if I just had x body or y lens. Once you realize you're a poo poo photographer, the chase for latest and greatest fizzles out.
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May 29, 2016 18:57
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What helped to cure my GAS was going on Flickr and looking up photos that people were taking with the same camera/lenses - there's some amazing stuff that can be done even with a kit lens on any system.
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May 29, 2016 19:42
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What cured mine was that we had a print of Aladdin Sane by Brian Duffy on the wall in my parents house for as long as I could remember (the one with his eyes open) and 30 something years later someone pointed out the red eye to me
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surrender posted:What helped to cure my GAS was going on Flickr and looking up photos that people were taking with the same camera/lenses - there's some amazing stuff that can be done even with a kit lens on any system. And the inverse, looking at pictures taken by scrubs with the gear you are lusting after.
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May 29, 2016 20:35
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Animal posted:And the inverse, looking at pictures taken by scrubs with the gear you are lusting after. I do notice a much higher proportion of HDR taken on Sony equipment than any other gear...
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May 29, 2016 20:38
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I’m not too worried about the XT-2. I have yet to find a situation where the 1 has failed me. Still an incredible camera.
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Hey I appreciate all of the replies even though I feel like my what-should-I-buy posts are turning this into some other, more terrible forum. V sorry and I promise I'm almost done. For now I think I am going to say "gently caress video" and hop on that EX-2 deal from Adorama (thx to whoever posted that). $690 is a nice 1/2 of the $1400 the Sony setup costs, and if I'm crazy into it and become the world's most professional photographer I can get the XT-2 (and already have a decent lens for it), or if I'm mildly into it I can keep the EX-2 and be very happy, or if I quit all of my jobs and burrow underground and live there and never take photos again I'm not out too much $$ (comparatively) and can probably eBay it and make back most of what I paid since it's a good deal and comes with free stuff. Cool For reference the two Insta accounts I run are @dapperandwise and @lateshake. The latest photo on each was taken with the a6300. Not amazing photos but def achieving a vibe you can't get with the iPhone. 99% of the rest are with the iPhone. We do have video stuff on the D&W account that my friend recorded with a GH2 -- I'll probably just continue to hire him and stick to taking photos. The idea of video sounded fun but when I think about sitting down and editing it I do not love that thought. On the other hand I like editing photos and I've enjoyed starting to learn Lightroom. AGAIN thanks for the help and replies  
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Animal posted:And the inverse, looking at pictures taken by scrubs with the gear you are lusting after. On of the things that deflated my appreciation for my a6000 was the massive amount of HDR and bad travel snapshots that people seemed to take with it on Flickr. I guess its wider availability is part of the reason for that. Weird thing to gaf about, I know. Not that the OM-D groups have it a whole lot better, it seems. I tend to like the results I get from searching for fuji X stuff the most out of all the mirrorless brands. No lie - I don't even shoot fuji myself. Borachon posted:Any particular lenses you'd suggest trying out? I have an M42 adapter in the mail from amazon and picked up a Super Takumar 55/1.8 and 135/3.5 off of craigslist for $30 total today to get started, but other suggestions would be great. Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm f/2.4. Speaking of Flickr, search for it there. The bokeh is very distinctive. Seems to have come into higher demand these days, but worth it IMO if you can find it for under $200.
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