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Yeah, let's be fair, there are two Superman books in 2016 rehashing the death of Superman and Doomsdsay and everything from 23 years ago. Only one of them is written by someone who worked on the original story. The other one is written by a guy editing for DC at the time. REBIRTH
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Decius posted:DC's sales were basically in freefall. That's why. Of course if it fixes the underlying issue of bad comics with bad storylines is up in the air. it doesn't
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May 28, 2016 16:51
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Edge & Christian posted:Yeah, let's be fair, there are two Superman books in 2016 rehashing the death of Superman and Doomsdsay and everything from 23 years ago. Only one of them is written by someone who worked on the original story. The other one is written by a guy editing for DC at the time. dc bring back superboy's jacket
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May 28, 2016 16:51
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Literally The Worst posted:dc bring back superboy's jacket leather jacket, round shades and shaved sides is the only real superboy 
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May 28, 2016 16:54
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I love the gloves over the jacket
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May 28, 2016 17:10
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May 28, 2016 22:21
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I don't like armor on superheroes much but at least Tim has finally gotten rid of those God-awful wings. Although it kinda looks like he's put his utility belt on upside-down, Batzarro style.
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May 28, 2016 22:28
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I think is too much green. He just looks like Robin, needs to be more distinctly Red Robin.
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May 28, 2016 22:30
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I like the Bumblebee one.
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May 28, 2016 22:37
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Bizarro and Batman Beyond I'm not even sure why they bothered releasing. It's like... yeah, that's the Beyond suit? On another subject, as the only person reading JL 3001 in the forum, can I ask which book Giffen's writing in the Rebirth lineup, because it's likely the only chance of paying off the cliffhanger he and JMdM pulled in that book's final issue. The 3001 Flash and Batgirl are sent back to 2016 by the main villain, who is revealed to be the Flash's mother. Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 22:47 on May 28, 2016 |
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May 28, 2016 22:45
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Gaz-L posted:Bizarro and Batman Beyond I'm not even sure why they bothered releasing. It's like... yeah, that's the Beyond suit? They gave it a separate cowl, which gives the face some sweet fuckin' jowls.   Gaz-L posted:can I ask which book Giffen's writing in the Rebirth lineup Giffen's doing Blue Beetle with JL3001 artist Scott Kollins and the entire original JL3000 team is doing Scooby Apocalypse. I'm reading JL3K1. I haven't got to the latest issue, but I'm pretty into their Flash returning. 
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May 28, 2016 22:50
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Artemis looks dumpy (although it's marginally better than her Liefeldian proportions, I guess, but her ugly costume with boring muted colors looks bad as well). Batman Beyond's eyes look unbelievably stupid and I don't like buff Terry, he's a much cooler hero when he's sleek and streamlined in comparison to Bruce's hulking build. Bizarro's previous design looked better. New Super-Man's S looks stupid and I dunno about the whole "Chinese flag on the shoulder" bit, it's a bit on-the-nose and just as unnecessary as if they tried that with an American flag on Supes' costume. Red Robin's costume needs more red, as aforementioned. Bumblebee's costume is fine, but outside of that yeah these announced costumes don't look good at all.
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May 28, 2016 22:57
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Artemis and Bizarro look so sad that they're stuck in a book with Jason Todd.
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May 28, 2016 23:09
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God, that BB costume is freaking trash. Who decided it was a good idea to give him bat-jowls?
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May 28, 2016 23:44
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I really like Artemis costume, Bizarro loojs weird and honestly the t shirt he has in the first RHATO cover looks way better. Tim costume is a stepback and misses the drat point of him being Red Robin. His N52 costume was miles better.
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May 28, 2016 23:57
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I much prefer Tim Drake in his classic costume there. Before New 52 Tim was probably my favorite DC character so I like seeing him looking like he did then. That drawing of New Super-Man is just unfortunate in every way.
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May 29, 2016 00:02
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I just saw that note that New Super-Man should have the body type of a "17-year-old kid". Has...has anyone at DC ever seen a teen?
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May 29, 2016 00:29
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"Where I come from, the 'S' means "'stop'." Also, Artemis has a dick between her breasts. Codependent Poster fucked around with this message at 00:38 on May 29, 2016 |
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May 29, 2016 00:36
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The best Robin-related Tim Drake costume: The second best:  A distant third, I guess: 
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May 29, 2016 00:41
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Teenage Fansub posted:
I loved the sequence where she's lamenting how they can't possibly beat the robot army because they don't know how they work, and would need to be able to examine every inch of them while not being in range for more than a moment in order to figure it out... and suddenly  "...good thing I'm the Flash... the fastest woman alive!" Hell, the final line up was actually fairly neat in how it re-subverted the original gimmick. The revived JL3K league all had crappier versions of their powers, like a knockoff of the original, but by the end you have the real Supergirl, a Batgirl who was every bit as smart and resourceful as Bruce Wayne (and as smug and bratty as Damian Wayne) and a Flash who seemed to be getting more powerful with every issue, deliberately.
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May 29, 2016 01:06
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Toxxupation posted:I just saw that note that New Super-Man should have the body type of a "17-year-old kid". Has...has anyone at DC ever seen a teen? This is my favorite part.
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May 29, 2016 01:22
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Endless Mike posted:This is my favorite part. The insets do a better job of communicating youth in looks.
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May 29, 2016 01:26
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Putting Tim back in that suit is as close as we will ever get to an apology for the "Red Robin" name and long string of terrible costumes. It will make it much easier for me to photoshop a single R logo on him in every panel and pretend he is just Robin again.
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May 29, 2016 01:27
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I mean, it's really obvious that DC's trying to make Super-Man into Spider-Man. Only, you know, literally over a decade after Invincible made that idea novel. But jeez, everything about that character design reads like DC critically misunderstanding why Spider-Man works as a hero, and just sharing the most surface level similarities (Red suit! Teen who gets his powers one day out of the blue and has to grapple with getting control of them! Outsider! Hyphenated superhero name!) without actually getting why Peter Parker works.
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May 29, 2016 01:31
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I feel like anyone wanting to update the Batman Beyond costume needs to either have the best idea in the world, or get reprimanded for even suggesting a change. It's no joke the best new superhero look in like four decades.
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May 29, 2016 01:32
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Toxxupation posted:I mean, it's really obvious that DC's trying to make Super-Man into Spider-Man. Only, you know, literally over a decade after Invincible made that idea novel. But jeez, everything about that character design reads like DC critically misunderstanding why Spider-Man works as a hero, and just sharing the most surface level similarities (Red suit! Teen who gets his powers one day out of the blue and has to grapple with getting control of them! Outsider! Hyphenated superhero name!) without actually getting why Peter Parker works. Also they seem determined to wreck their two actual good attempts at a Spider-Man in the last 20 years: Blue Beetle (Jaime) and Batman Beyond (Terry's whole thing is "WHAT IF SPIDER-MAN.... WAS BATMAN!?")
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May 29, 2016 01:42
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Ah, yes, noted military experiment working for a global superpower Spider-Man. Maybe you can only notice surface level similarities between Spider-Man and Super-Man because they're not going for the same thing at all. Especially considering the fact DC is already publishing a book about a teen in New York trying to juggle his personal life as a student and the great responsibility that comes with some sort of great power. It's called Doctor Fate, it's by Paul Levitz and Sonny Liew, and it's actually pretty good.
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May 29, 2016 01:53
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Toxxupation posted:I just saw that note that New Super-Man should have the body type of a "17-year-old kid". Has...has anyone at DC ever seen a teen? Have you ever seen a high school football player?
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May 29, 2016 03:04
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JoshTheStampede posted:Have you ever seen a high school football player? I mean, they're football players, not swimmers 
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May 29, 2016 03:44
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Yuck. I don't like that Bizarro at all. Best Bizarro is Last Son/Escape from Bizarro World Bizarro.
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May 29, 2016 06:37
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SeannieDarko posted:Yuck. I don't like that Bizarro at all. Best Bizarro is Last Son/Escape from Bizarro World Bizarro. The gently caress is going on with his hair?
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May 29, 2016 06:41
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Please tell me I'm on crazy pills and that DC Rebirth seriously isn't putting loving Watchmen into the mainline DC continuity.
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May 29, 2016 07:04
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There's no need for spoiler tags. The comic is out.
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May 29, 2016 07:09
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FilthyImp posted:shredded beefcakes The British term for hamburgers. Crabtree posted:Please tell me I'm on crazy pills and that DC Rebirth seriously isn't putting loving Watchmen into the mainline DC continuity. Don't worry, they're just putting Geoff John's half-accurate recollections of Watchmen in.
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May 29, 2016 07:14
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BrianWilly posted:This is written by Tomasi. yea but its basically the same story in both books.
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May 29, 2016 08:05
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Alaois posted:leather jacket, round shades and shaved sides is the only real superboy Jacket Superboy was in the original Rebirth teaser:  Everyone deduced the guy in the middle was Wally and the others are obviously Supergirl, Jay Garrick, Green Lantern (Jessica Cruz), 90s Superboy, and uh....Green Arrow?
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May 29, 2016 08:08
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That isn't either of Supergirl, Superwoman or Lana Lang's costumes, so those can't be final designs. I imagine they just found a Superboy silhouette and made it small enough to represent an 8 year old (or however old Jon Kent is meant to be) e: Though with Eradicator and Doomsday in a green jumpsuit coming up, I guess you can't rule him out. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 08:26 on May 29, 2016 |
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May 29, 2016 08:20
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Gaz-L posted:(Terry's whole thing is "WHAT IF SPIDER-MAN.... WAS BATMAN!?") Apparently Batman would just murder/cause horrific fates for 90% of his villains if he was Spider-Man
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May 29, 2016 09:03
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Teenage Fansub posted:That isn't either of Supergirl, Superwoman or Lana Lang's costumes, so those can't be final designs. I imagine they just found a Superboy silhouette and made it small enough to represent an 8 year old (or however old Jon Kent is meant to be) Well we haven't seen Jay either and the Wally costume was just revealed a few days ago. I would bet on either a new Superboy showing up or Jonathan switches to the jacket at some point.
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X-O posted:There's no need for spoiler tags. The comic is out. Sorry, I didn't know the ground rules as far as talking about things that are technically still new in BSS. Squizzle posted:Don't worry, they're just putting Geoff John's half-accurate recollections of Watchmen in. It just feels like one of the worst moves they could pull in the infinite likely bad ideas they have to make.
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