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I love when the drama gets going. Gimme a good ol' fashioned melt down any day. Is it a distraction? Yes. Do people take fake pointless games too seriously? Absolutely. At the end of the day it's all in a good fun. At least for me. I mostly get feigngry.
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Here's what I think I'll do: I'll make it part of the sign up process of the next game. When you sign up, you must also vote if you want the rule. Over 50% and we'll try it.
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May 29, 2016 14:23
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Anomalous Amalgam posted:I love when the drama gets going. Gimme a good ol' fashioned melt down any day. This. I think maybe once I've gotten IRL mad at mafia and it was probably at TMM
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May 29, 2016 14:34
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Shadow0 posted:These slapfights we get from time-to-time really drag down games and don't seem to help anyone. No. Generally speaking some of the forums rules are lax in mafia games. I wholeheartedly disagree with banning the same two people slapfighting for multiple pages. Let em' do their thing man.
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May 29, 2016 14:41
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Shadow0 posted:Here's what I think I'll do: I'll make it part of the sign up process of the next game. When you sign up, you must also vote if you want the rule. Over 50% and we'll try it. Making things needlessly complicated imo.
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May 29, 2016 14:42
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CapitalistPig posted:Making things needlessly complicated imo. It's neither needless nor complicated imo. But I think if we're going to talk about it, I should wait until my games are finished. There's a non-zero chance this discussion could potentially leak info or affect someone's play-style.
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May 29, 2016 15:03
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If my play style can't be used within the rules a mod sets out, I just won't sign up to that game. I think you're going to have a hard sell on this one mate. Look at my Stargate game and the antilurking rules I pinched from Podima. They're working great for me.
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May 29, 2016 15:20
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Kashuno posted:Also star trek talk: Janeway was far and above the WORST captain in star trek Woah, woah, woah. I would agree that Janeway was the least "Star Trek"-y of the captains in Star Trek, but she was out in the Delta quadrant without the expected backings and support of the United Federation of Planets. She had to make tough choices without a net. She put the needs of her crew ahead of the Prime Directive on many occasions, but it was never taken lightly. It was a moral dilemma, and is what made the character interesting. It is all about the choices that are made, and their long term consequences. Well if you ignore the whole temporal time war poo poo where they kill a bunch of people then hit the hard reset at the end of the season. Janeway was a good captain and a fine leader of men.
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May 29, 2016 15:24
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May 29, 2016 15:30
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Kashuno posted:This. I think maybe once I've gotten IRL mad at mafia and it was probably at TMM Same, but then we each killed the other on N1 as scum once and we were square again.
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May 29, 2016 15:32
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Shadow0 posted:It's neither needless nor complicated imo. Either make it a rule for your games or don't, but making it up for a vote every time just makes it extra stuff that isn't needed. In any case i very seriously doubt it would become part of standard mafia rules because it is a bit too controlling to put a limit on who posts how many times in a row and which people are posting on a page.
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May 29, 2016 15:32
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Also re: star trek chat, Sisko is the best captain, sorry for anyone who has an incorrect opinion regarding this.
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May 29, 2016 15:34
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Shadow0 posted:Here's what I think I'll do: I'll make it part of the sign up process of the next game. When you sign up, you must also vote if you want the rule. Over 50% and we'll try it. Shadow - I know you like trying to micromanage your games and codifying this stuff, but I suspect it won't go over well. Let things progress naturally and see what happens. That being said, I agree that threadshitting to the level of making things unreadable (i.e. Infinitum's poop emoji spam in Shine and other things in ongoing games) should get a PM from the mod telling them to cut it out. Nothing beyond that though!
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May 29, 2016 15:34
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Who is the worriedman Shadow0 and why does he type exclusively in verse?
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May 29, 2016 15:44
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CapitalistPig posted:Also re: star trek chat, Sisko is the best captain, sorry for anyone who has an incorrect opinion regarding this. I mean this is like fact. It probably goes Sisko > Kirk > Picard > Janeway although you can switch around Kirk/Picard depending on what part of being a captain you're discussing
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May 29, 2016 15:45
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CapitalistPig posted:Also re: star trek chat, Sisko is the best captain, sorry for anyone who has an incorrect opinion regarding this. If you want a
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Podima posted:Shadow - I know you like trying to micromanage your games and codifying this stuff, but I suspect it won't go over well. Let things progress naturally and see what happens. I'm just trying out potential solutions. People seems to really hate when it happens, but no one wants to do anything about it. Personally, I don't see why everyone gets so upset enough to actually keep the dumb fights going. I'll just leave it alone. It's probably not even that big of a deal as I'm making it. Little Mac posted:Who is the worriedman Shadow0 and why does he type exclusively in verse? No one; don't mind me.
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May 29, 2016 15:48
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Shadow0 posted:I'm just trying out potential solutions. People seems to really hate when it happens, but no one wants to do anything about it. Feel free to try it out in your next game and see what happens. 
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May 29, 2016 15:56
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I think there's a difference between arguing about the game (like tmm tends to do) and people just straight up being dicks
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AnonymousNarcotics posted:I think there's a difference between arguing about the game (like tmm tends to do) and people just straight up being dicks Exactly. Which is why I'm trying to figure out how to curtail the dickery without hurting the presumably legitimate strategies. I feel like if you're arguing about the game and there's at least 7 people in the game, at least one of them will have something to say about what people are saying. Otherwise, it just dissolves into insult-slinging, and no one reads it anyway. So what's the point except to keep people from having fun? I'll think about it some more. Though I don't know if/when I'll do my next game.
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May 29, 2016 16:07
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The fabulous thing about Mafia is that if someone is being a dick, you can vote them out! Either they stop being a dick after this happens enough times or they stop playing.
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May 29, 2016 16:09
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Well, everyone stops playing eventually.
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May 29, 2016 16:15
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I gotta say, "ONGOING GAME IN QUESTION" is pretty toxic, and won't say more about it. Everyone is just scrubs though, it's ok. This is life. You could make them Hated. Like put it in the OP, if you are an egregious dick just for the sake of it, I will deem you hated on the votecount. 
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May 29, 2016 16:17
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Personally i find these kinds of slapfights entertaining.
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May 29, 2016 16:26
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CapitalistPig posted:Personally i find these kinds of slapfights entertaining.
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PSA: if you take poo poo so personally that you actively refuse to play the game as a result then please take a step back
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May 29, 2016 17:33
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Kashuno posted:PSA: if you take poo poo so personally that you actively refuse to play the game as a result then please take a step back Don't talk about ongoing games  (But agreed.)
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May 29, 2016 17:36
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Podima posted:Don't talk about ongoing games Doesn't just apply to that one :p
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Kashuno posted:PSA: if you take poo poo so personally that you actively refuse to play the game as a result then please take a step back 
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Kashuno posted:PSA: if you take poo poo so personally that you actively refuse to play the game as a result then please take a step back I think he better PSA is "Don't play against your win condition." I can't tell you the number of times I've seen someone tank something or screw over their own team "to prove a point" or "it'll show you!". It's so stupid. And then, basically always, they double down and try to act like they have the high ground even though they intentionally sabotaged their team mates. The most egregious example of this to me will always be imgay in Wild and Crazy kids mafia where he threw the game in LYLO because "Asiina was mean" and jake was his friend even though it was 100000% obvious Jake was the last non town. Playing against your win condition ruins games, full stop.
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May 29, 2016 18:18
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Apparently one of my moms little dogs grieved itself to death after the first one died. Was worried that might happen but still sad news
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chaoslord posted:I think he better PSA is "Don't play against your win condition." I can't tell you the number of times I've seen someone tank something or screw over their own team "to prove a point" or "it'll show you!". It's so stupid. And then, basically always, they double down and try to act like they have the high ground even though they intentionally sabotaged their team mates.  chaoslord posted:Apparently one of my moms little dogs grieved itself to death after the first one died. Was worried that might happen but still sad news 
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May 29, 2016 18:37
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CapitalistPig posted:Also re: star trek chat, Sisko is the best captain, sorry for anyone who has an incorrect opinion regarding this. Correct. Also B'elanna is the best engineer in Star Trek canon, full stop. She is the type of engineer I hope to be someday.
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May 29, 2016 18:44
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Bright is the best leader of a ship
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May 29, 2016 18:46
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RE: Trek. Captain Data. 
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May 29, 2016 18:48
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Poison Mushroom posted:RE: Trek. Data is not fit to be a captain
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May 29, 2016 18:50
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CapitalistPig posted:Also re: star trek chat, Sisko is the best captain, sorry for anyone who has an incorrect opinion regarding this. This is correct and cool and good.
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chaoslord posted:Apparently one of my moms little dogs grieved itself to death after the first one died. Was worried that might happen but still sad news   chaoslord posted:I think he better PSA is "Don't play against your win condition." I can't tell you the number of times I've seen someone tank something or screw over their own team "to prove a point" or "it'll show you!". It's so stupid. And then, basically always, they double down and try to act like they have the high ground even though they intentionally sabotaged their team mates. This was so aggravating and 
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The only Star Trek thing I've ever seen is Star Trek Into Darkness. It was pretty good. Kirk seemed like a good captain.
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I think slapfights are fine because they are people being engaged and the people who aren't participating can just suck it up and post. Anything that stops someone from posting is a bad thing that makes games worse. When I get into a back and forth with someone that causes 10000 posts it's because I'm really invested in making my point, whether that be defending myself or calling someone out for being scum. I always wish other people would contribute when it turns into a back and forth between me and another person, but I'm not going to stop arguing what I believe (or know if I'm on the defensive) just because of some arbitrary threshold. People need to accept that mafia requires a lot of reading. Get over it and actually post, goddamnit.
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