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Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Theta Zero posted:

You generally hang back and pick a partner. You can hit people with the heal orb and orb of shame from so far away, and hanging back lets you take advantage of the fact that a majority of your health regens while circumventing that you have one of the lowest health caps. The orb of shame turns people into paper for your teammates to rip apart, and you're a walking glass cannon, so your purpose is to be support from afar. Playing like this lets you build up your ultimate very quickly and help with a lot of pushes. Your biggest threats are people who can flank you or shoot you from a distance like Widowmaker or Tracer, though.

It's important to note that Zenyatta is more of a support role that just so happens to be able to heal, rather than a dedicated healer, so much sure you and your team is aware that he's not comparable to Lucio or Mercy and is more supplemental to a team with one.

Ah, that might be the problem--I'd been thinking of Zenyatta as a healer and felt like I haven't been helpful at keeping my team alive. Thinking of him as offensive support might be a useful change of perspective.

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Vermain
Sep 5, 2006




Thank you for linking this. Pharah's even more fun to play now.

Zedsdeadbaby
Jun 14, 2008

You have been called out, in the ways of old.

Lady Naga posted:

I have literally no explanation for why this specifically is a thing worth being a cock over.

Like imagine if you were just talking to one of your friends and they were like "geez they said there weren't going to be showers yesterday but the minute I left my house it started raining! What are the odds!?" and you responded with "oh yeah real fuckin weird you dumb idiot bitch"

Because goons

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Wow already competitive tournaments for this game. I guess advertisers and creepy middle aged men couldn't wait to exploit a new crop of esporters.

Follow That Fish!
Mar 8, 2007
Chaser of the stray sea-life, clad in a trench and a fedora.
I refuse to believe I'm the last one to know, so here's a little tip:

You can steer Reinhardt's charge left and right with A and D.

Learning about this made Reinhardt duty infinitely more fun. I might be providing my teammates slightly less shield but on the other hand I am providing the other team a lot more hammer in the face.

DrManiac
Feb 29, 2012

How are you supposed to handle Anubis' temple on the attack? If the enemy has a decent composition and build their poo poo near the first two entrances there's nothing I can do to penetrate that killzone.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

XyrlocShammypants posted:

Wow already competitive tournaments for this game. I guess advertisers and creepy middle aged men couldn't wait to exploit a new crop of esporters.

What is the appropriate length of time to wait between release and starting up a competitive scene?

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

DrManiac posted:

How are you supposed to handle Anubis' temple on the attack? If the enemy has a decent composition and build their poo poo near the first two entrances there's nothing I can do to penetrate that killzone.

literally just went against a 5 man torbabybjorn squad on this map :suicide:

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Zedsdeadbaby posted:

Because goons

At least most goons have the presence of mind to save their hostility for when someone has a different opinion than them, this is spewing vitriol at a dude making smalltalk.


Brannock posted:

What is the appropriate length of time to wait between release and starting up a competitive scene?

Once the mourning period of competitive TF2 has passed (when HL3 is released).

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Lady Naga posted:

I have literally no explanation for why this specifically is a thing worth being a cock over.

Like imagine if you were just talking to one of your friends and they were like "geez they said there weren't going to be showers yesterday but the minute I left my house it started raining! What are the odds!?" and you responded with "oh yeah real fuckin weird you dumb idiot bitch"

I totally would do this to my friends and they would do it to me, and we'd think it was funny and not 'hateful' or 'vitriolic'

How do you play multiplayer games for this long and still have thin skin?

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009

DrManiac posted:

How are you supposed to handle Anubis' temple on the attack? If the enemy has a decent composition and build their poo poo near the first two entrances there's nothing I can do to penetrate that killzone.

Pharah/Genji/Widowmaker can use their mobility to take the high ground, and Reinhardt/Roadhog can draw focus from them.

I've got a 64% win rate with Reinhardt, with a 14/43 K/D ratio. I like the wins, but MAH NUMBERZZZ

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

DrManiac posted:

How are you supposed to handle Anubis' temple on the attack? If the enemy has a decent composition and build their poo poo near the first two entrances there's nothing I can do to penetrate that killzone.

Junkrat is custom-built to wreck encampments

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Brannock posted:

I totally would do this to my friends and they would do it to me, and we'd think it was funny and not 'hateful' or 'vitriolic'

How do you play multiplayer games for this long and still have thin skin?

Well, there's this thing called a "proportional response" and...

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Lady Naga posted:

Well, there's this thing called a "proportional response" and...

Why are you even engaging, it's ~~goon humor~~

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Dias posted:

Why are you even engaging, it's ~~goon humor~~

I dunno man, I used to be like that and then I took a long, hard look at my life and realized that it's much more fun and engaging to be positive than it is to constantly sneer at peeps, and I'm hoping that if others get called out on their negative behaviour they too might one day come to the same conclusion.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Brannock posted:

I totally would do this to my friends and they would do it to me, and we'd think it was funny and not 'hateful' or 'vitriolic'

How do you play multiplayer games for this long and still have thin skin?

Your friends probably dont like you tbh

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Lady Naga posted:

I dunno man, I used to be like that and then I took a long, hard look at my life and realized that it's much more fun and engaging to be positive than it is to constantly sneer at peeps, and I'm hoping that if others get called out on their negative behaviour they too might one day come to the same conclusion.

yeah but something something thin skin nice meltdown chill goons

It's really not worth the headache.

Let's instead talk about Junkrat is somehow more annoying at pipe spamming than Demoman. Yesterday I got paired against two of them in Gilbraltar and a couple of times I just turned a corner with no one around and ooops i'm dead now.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Listening to grown men become audibly upset that their shootyman is dying in the video game is more embarrassing than Tracer porn.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
The amount of kills I get by blindly firing my slowmoving icicles into doorways at approximately head height is hilarious

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

exquisite tea posted:

Listening to grown men become audibly upset that their shootyman is dying in the video game is more embarrassing than Tracer porn.

I like playing these games in a group because while I'm the grown man that gets audibly upset that my shootyman is dying, other people kinda make me both more restrained and less...tryhardy? Like, I'll play fuckin' Widowmaker because I know at least half my team is aware we'll lose and it's fine.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Opposing Farce posted:

Does anybody have advice for getting better at Genji without being a burden to my team? He's a lot of fun and I like playing him but I'm pretty bad at it and even when I do okay I can tell I could be doing a lot better and would probably be contributing more if I picked a character I'm more comfortable with like Tracer or McCree. The specific thing I find holding me back is really his shurikens; I'm relatively decent with hitscan but I've always had trouble with projectiles and the shurikens in particular are a fairly unusual weapon I can't exactly practice with except by playing Genji. I know that at the end of the day it really is just a matter of playing a lot until I get better at it, but is there anything specific I can do to improve my aim or at least compensate for my bad aim so I don't have to feel so bad about being a bad?

When weapons travel the way the shurikens do, and especially for genji who doesn't want to be in the poo poo, accuracy means less than just general placement. Same with dva's zero suit gun. Focus more on avoiding fire (ie running on walls like a nutcase) and just painting the area where baddies are with shurikens, some will miss just because the dudes move but its ok as long as you're still alive and able to toss more.

Im on ps4 so I switched the jump button to L3 so I could aim and jump, I'd suggest everyone try that if you're on console and olaying anyone who jumos a lot. Plus you can set it per char.

Balon
May 23, 2010

...my greatest work yet.

Soothing Vapors posted:

The amount of kills I get by blindly firing my slowmoving icicles into doorways at approximately head height is hilarious

Getting free kills with Junkrat or Symmetra just by blind firing is pretty great. The Ilios cap point that's a lowered pit is Junkrat's nirvana.

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
Huh, just encountered my first bitching goon. You'd think being in a premade you'd be slightly less cringey and more self-aware.

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Lady Naga posted:

I dunno man, I used to be like that and then I took a long, hard look at my life and realized that it's much more fun and engaging to be positive than it is to constantly sneer at peeps, and I'm hoping that if others get called out on their negative behaviour they too might one day come to the same conclusion.

I dunno why you're defaulting to interpreting the tone as "sneering" but I suppose that does explain why you view playful ribbing as hateful and vitriolic

A Saucy Bratwurst posted:

Your friends probably dont like you tbh

Hey man did you remember to wear a shirt today?

MorsAnima
Nov 29, 2010
I just feel completely shit on. These changes won't make a cat in hell's difference.

Balon posted:

Getting free kills with Junkrat or Symmetra just by blind firing is pretty great. The Ilios cap point that's a lowered pit is Junkrat's nirvana.

Just about every final capture point is junkrat heaven. Stand behind something, point over it, aim at the nicely highlighted-through-walls payload. Taunt frequently in case you accidentally get potg.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Soothing Vapors posted:

The amount of kills I get by blindly firing my slowmoving icicles into doorways at approximately head height is hilarious

It's great! I'm also partial to corner-firing as Lúcio, especially on KOTH. I get way too many elims that way.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Just so it's clear, everyone's figured out that Lucio's hockey skin is because he has skates right?

SHAOLIN FUCKFIEND
Jan 21, 2008

Nothing's better than clutching out a game during overtime as Genji on attack. Goddamn. He really has the tools to do almost whatever he wants provided you don't get cornered or move out in the open. Killed the bastion with reflect, popped ult, sliced up three people, escaped and then got back in and sniped their Reinhardt from above with shurikens. Payload in.

I think I just wanna become a total sperg at Genji now. Keep underestimating just how far his shift moves you, but it's amazing when people expect you to be unable to close the gap. Anime as hell.

MorsAnima
Nov 29, 2010
I just feel completely shit on. These changes won't make a cat in hell's difference.

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Just so it's clear, everyone's figured out that Lucio's hockey skin is because he has skates right?

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Brannock posted:

I dunno why you're defaulting to interpreting the tone as "sneering" but I suppose that does explain why you view playful ribbing as hateful and vitriolic


Hey man did you remember to wear a shirt today?

If you don't think being unnecessarily sarcastic to someone who's just making small talk isn't incredibly rude then I really have nothing more to say on the issue, you either can't or won't admit that certain behaviours are less humorous than you think they are.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Just so it's clear, everyone's figured out that Lucio's hockey skin is because he has skates right?

...sure?

Also he plays hockey.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Cause people were really overthinking it at some point

RanKizama
Apr 22, 2015

Shinobi Heart

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Just so it's clear, everyone's figured out that Lucio's hockey skin is because he has skates right?
I thought it was because he was Canadian? Or is that kind of the same thing?

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

T.G. Xarbala posted:

Cause people were really overthinking it at some point

Were they? The most I remember people saying (including myself) is that it's silly that a Brazilian is that interested in ice hockey, plus stealth Canadian jokes.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
All the Overwatchers are Canadian.

Jinh
Sep 12, 2008

Fun Shoe
hi i have 2k unread posts for this thread and its because instead of reading or talking about the game, i just play it. its a lot more fun!

ZypherIM
Nov 8, 2010

"I want to see what she's in love with."

DrManiac posted:

How are you supposed to handle Anubis' temple on the attack? If the enemy has a decent composition and build their poo poo near the first two entrances there's nothing I can do to penetrate that killzone.

If you go to the left right at the arches, there is an alternate path. Once there, in the health pack room, some classes can exit out the windows at the very top. This lets you do a complete flank from behind. If someone on your team gets in the left way, people at the front have to turn to deal with them. Going to the right while they're split lets you pincher the point as well. Usually once you get anyone into the back by the point you should be able to break it soon after, because pulling people away from the choke to deal with the single guy means they can't hold your team out.

Point B is harder, mainly you need to group and push as a team, preferably have some decent team ults.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

DrManiac posted:

How are you supposed to handle Anubis' temple on the attack? If the enemy has a decent composition and build their poo poo near the first two entrances there's nothing I can do to penetrate that killzone.

Switch to Zarya and soak up all that sweet sweet damage and then kill everything

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib
The full-stack experience in this game is so good that it renders solo queue almost unplayable in comparison, even though solo queue in this game is leagues better than in many other multiplayer team games I've played.

Lady Naga posted:

If you don't think being unnecessarily sarcastic to someone who's just making small talk isn't incredibly rude then I really have nothing more to say on the issue, you either can't or won't admit that certain behaviours are less humorous than you think they are.

You should take yourself less seriously.

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Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
Any time I get a Tracer or Roadhog in my face I panic and inevitably die.

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