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cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



Kawabata posted:

Roadhog questions:

It would seem that I'm an EU top 100 Roadhog on Master Overwatch (deheheheheeeeeeee) but the hero mechanics still feel super inconsistent. Sometimes hooking (especially when it's from max distance) doesn't seem to prevent the guy from using his escape ability before I mouse 1 them in the face which is incredibly loving stupid and aggravating. Does the stun not last long enough when you hook from far away? Is it a my ping vs their ping thing? Were they using the skill right before getting hooked?

Also, the way the target is hooked to you is often super wonky and awkward (sometimes they come in a curve, sometimes you don't even see them in your screen for some reason) and to my knowledge there's still no consensus on where you should shoot, head or body. You'd think on tanks it should be head because most if not all the pellets should hit at that distance, but on everyone else it's like whatever. I've hooked Reaper in 2 identical situations, both times he's at full life, my reticle covers his chest completely, but the first time my hook-mouse1-melee combo leaves him at 10hp, the second time he dies even before my melee hits him.

The stun has a fixed duration and the farther away the person is the longer it takes for them to reach you, so yes, long range hooks will sometimes let people dodge your shot.

Aim for the body because it's more consistent. Aiming for the head is typically a bit of a wash because Roadhog's gun has a really big spread and some of the pellets will miss while other ones will deal double damage. It works out to usually being the same amount of damage but sometimes a headshot will either whiff completely or instagib someone. However, a body shot will also instagib almost every non-tank hero in the game. As for tanks, you win a DPS race at close range against all of them as long as you don't miss, and aiming for the head just makes you more likely to miss. Not so much with Winston or D.va though because Winston's head is lower and in front of his torso when he's looking at you and the game basically considers D.va's mech to be a giant head with legs, but for Zarya and Reinhardt just go for the body.

and yeah sometimes the game just decides to drop the person somewhere weird and there's not much you can do about it other than be ready to actually aim at them

for some reason it's always Lucios when it does it to me

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Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
Goons should be nice to goons when you group up, save the salt for when you have to play solo queue if then. You're only really embarassing yourself by joining a premade and talking smack and pretty soon you'll end up with nobody but pubbies wanting to play with you and nobody wants that.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
Why the F is there no fire and/or flame based Overwatch character yet and if you say Junkrat or Torb I am going to slap you SO HARD

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

cock hero flux posted:

and yeah sometimes the game just decides to drop the person somewhere weird and there's not much you can do about it other than be ready to actually aim at them

for some reason it's always Lucios when it does it to me

Lucio, Tracer, Genji, Symmetra, will all do it a lot. I think it has to do with model size.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Lady Naga posted:

Why the F is there no fire and/or flame based Overwatch character yet and if you say Junkrat or Torb I am going to slap you SO HARD

you say that because you haven't seen my widowmaker she's hot fiyah

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Lady Naga posted:

Why the F is there no fire and/or flame based Overwatch character yet and if you say Junkrat or Torb I am going to slap you SO HARD

There is also no water/pirate hero.

I want a pirate.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Steve2911 posted:

There is also no water/pirate hero.

I want a pirate.

Ice is just frozen water you pleb

Brannock
Feb 9, 2006

by exmarx
Fallen Rib

Lady Naga posted:

I am going to slap you SO HARD

I used to be like that and then I took a long, hard look at my life and realized that it's much more fun and engaging to give hugs than it is to constantly threat violence, and I'm hoping that if others get called out on their violent behaviour they too might one day come to the same conclusion.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

Steve2911 posted:

There is also no water/pirate hero.

I want a pirate.

Torn is a pirate

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Steve2911 posted:

There is also no water/pirate hero.

I want a pirate.

The dwarf dude has a pirate costume.

flashman
Dec 16, 2003

Brannock posted:

I used to be like that and then I took a long, hard look at my life and realized that it's much more fun and engaging to give hugs than it is to constantly threat violence, and I'm hoping that if others get called out on their violent behaviour they too might one day come to the same conclusion.

nice meltdown

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.

Brannock posted:

The full-stack experience in this game is so good that it renders solo queue almost unplayable in comparison, even though solo queue in this game is leagues better than in many other multiplayer team games I've played.
I want to get to the point where I am not going to bring shame to my ancestors eternally before I start grouping with goons regularly

I figure I should get there right around the time my first great-granddaughter is born

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
Had a match last night where I saved my goon stack from a Zarya + Hanzo ult thanks to my timely Lúcio ult. We win and POTG is awarded to me. But it's me getting two kill assists while Pharah ults them on a chokepoint, three minutes before my ult. :v:

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo

Brannock posted:

I used to be like that and then I took a long, hard look at my life and realized that it's much more fun and engaging to give hugs than it is to constantly threat violence, and I'm hoping that if others get called out on their violent behaviour they too might one day come to the same conclusion.

You seem upset that someone said "please don't be a dick to a random person apropos of nothing".

Please chill.

edit: hah, this just popped up during the Combo Breaker stream:

https://www.brokentier.com/collections/shirts/products/get-good-white-tee

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Papercut posted:

Torn is a pirate

Lady Naga posted:

Ice is just frozen water you pleb

Tender Bender posted:

The dwarf dude has a pirate costume.
None of these are actual pirates. Why is this?

Pirates aren't engineers they wield either cutlasses or flintlocks pistols.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~
I want a fire hero since we already have ice and electric guys.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)
Dumb question is Overwatch only 5 gigabytes large? I tried googling around and some website said 5 gigs was the requirement, but wasn't sure if it was reliable or not. I only ask because i'm running out of room on my HD and want to be sure before i buy.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Mister Fister posted:

Dumb question is Overwatch only 5 gigabytes large? I tried googling around and some website said 5 gigs was the requirement, but wasn't sure if it was reliable or not. I only ask because i'm running out of room on my HD and want to be sure before i buy.

The Overwatch folder on my PC is 22.9GB.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

Steve2911 posted:

The Overwatch folder on my PC is 22.9GB.

Well, i was lied to :mad:

Thanks.

evilentity
Jun 25, 2010

Mister Fister posted:

Well, i was lied to :mad:

Thanks.

Mines 6, must be broken :shrug:

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames

Soothing Vapors posted:

I want to get to the point where I am not going to bring shame to my ancestors eternally before I start grouping with goons regularly

I figure I should get there right around the time my first great-granddaughter is born

Seriously, just join the Discord and play with goons. Don't try to get good playing with pubbies. Only the worst goons will complain if you're not pro-tier in their group.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



evilentity posted:

Mines 6, must be broken :shrug:

poo poo, really? I did download mine at the start of the closed beta (despite not being in the beta) so there might be a load of redundant data in there.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Steve2911 posted:

The Overwatch folder on my PC is 22.9GB.

Mine's only 6, are you sure you're not confusing your Overwatch install folder for your Overwatch porn folder? I do it all the time.

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Lady Naga posted:

Mine's only 6, are you sure you're not confusing your Overwatch install folder for your Overwatch porn folder? I do it all the time.

idiot

the overwatch porn folder would be at LEAST 50 gigabytes, more if he's not a scrub tier porn collector

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I was gonna ask why you're downloading Overwatch porn in this age of streaming but I realized Blizz is trying to take it down so it's a smart idea to archive it, lest it be lost in the mists of the Internet.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Really enjoying Zenyatta right now, though it seems like the only way to deal with the enemy team having a Widowmaker is to just change heroes. I don't know if anyone else in the game is countered that hard by any one other hero.

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!

Dias posted:

I was gonna ask why you're downloading Overwatch porn in this age of streaming but I realized Blizz is trying to take it down so it's a smart idea to archive it, lest it be lost in the mists of the Internet.

I need porn for the extended trips I take to my Shame Hovel, which does not have fiber.

Mister Fister
May 17, 2008

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
KILL-GORE


I love the smell of dead Palestinians in the morning.
You know, one time we had Gaza bombed for 26 days
(and counting!)

evilentity posted:

Mines 6, must be broken :shrug:

6 isn't too bad, just bought overwatch on amazon (which has a $15 sale if you're a prime member), thanks.

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold
When they release the patch that nerfs Widowmaker, McCree and Winston i hope they nerf Widowmaker in a way that she can't just bodyshot you then instantly bodyshot you a second time for the kill. Headshots are 2x damage right? They should reduce her base damage to 100 and set her crit multipler to 3x and also reduce her rate of fire. That way people who are actually good are still allowed to use her but you won't get killed by bodyshotting shitters.

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

CJ posted:

When they release the patch that nerfs Widowmaker, McCree and Winston i hope they nerf Widowmaker in a way that she can't just bodyshot you then instantly bodyshot you a second time for the kill. Headshots are 2x damage right? They should reduce her base damage to 100 and set her crit multipler to 3x and also reduce her rate of fire. That way people who are actually good are still allowed to use her but you won't get killed by bodyshotting shitters.

Either reduce her charge time, force her to reload between shots, or reduce bodyshot damage while keeping headshots the same. Does she have any sort of aim assist on PC? I feel like she might, having used her a fair bit and hitting stuff I feel I had no business hitting.

I'm pretty terrible at double tapping bodyshots with her, all my sniping muscle memory from TF2 either goes 150 damage shot (whether body or quickscope headshot) followed by an immediate bodyshot, while the timing is different for Widowmaker and you need to let it charge ever so slightly to get the 50 damage shot.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
Never nerf mccree

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Foehammer007 posted:

Never nerf mccree

McCree is in an awkward position where his flashbang is too powerful but nerfing it would let Tracers run wild and just keep getting in on your flanks without being punished.

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold
They can't nerf McCree because Tracer is ridiculous. I liked him more in beta when his flashbang was shorter duration so you still needed snap aiming to get the right click off before the stun ended. Then they buffed the flashbang to make it more reliable at killing Tracer and now it's a free kill pretty much every time.

a cat on an apple
Apr 28, 2013
I found out you can LoS D.Va's Ult using Mei herself when she's trapped in her ice.

Is there anything Mei can't do?

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

CJ posted:

They can't nerf McCree because Tracer is ridiculous. I liked him more in beta when his flashbang was shorter duration so you still needed snap aiming to get the right click off before the stun ended. Then they buffed the flashbang to make it more reliable at killing Tracer and now it's a free kill pretty much every time.

Buff Mcree because Jesus loving Christ playing against a good tracer is a goddamned nightmare

Bolivar
Aug 20, 2011

Harrow posted:

Really enjoying Zenyatta right now, though it seems like the only way to deal with the enemy team having a Widowmaker is to just change heroes. I don't know if anyone else in the game is countered that hard by any one other hero.

Yeah I'd really like to enjoy him more than I do now, but the whole concept of "go crawl in a corner and change hero if there's a somewhat capable sniper" is just way too bad for self-esteem. You gotta have good confidence level when playing this game and with Zen it's just not there for long-term.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

Papercut posted:

Buff Mcree because Jesus loving Christ playing against a good tracer is a goddamned nightmare

This is the truth but at the low levels I'm at (15-20) a good tracer is hard to come by.

Thankfully more people are playing mercy, which is nice to see.

lazorexplosion
Mar 19, 2016

McRee is easy you just turn the flashbang stun into 'cannot shoot or use abilities, move at 50% reduced speed' which is much more palatable in terms of still doing the original purpose but having some counterplay.

Tenacious J
Nov 20, 2002

Mcree's flashbang is fine, if you let yourself get within melee range of Mcree alone that's your fault and you deserve the hammer fanned at your face.

He doesn't have mobility and after the bang and roll are spent, he is very vulnerable.

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fadam
Apr 23, 2008

Tenacious J posted:

Mcree's flashbang is fine, if you let yourself get within melee range of Mcree alone that's your fault and you deserve the hammer fanned at your face.

He doesn't have mobility and after the bang and roll are spent, he is very vulnerable.

Nah I'd rather just bitch about him. Ask me anything about how much I hate Mei and Widowmaker too.

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