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Scroll through the forums. No really, do it. I've noticed 2 things from reading over these posts the last 24-36 hrs: a) Players are extremely dissatisfied with this garbage game and b) an example of the worst gaming community (yes, worse than league) is on display. Even in constructive and well written posts about desires for adjustments to ANY character, or game modes etc., players too often reply with 'git gud' or 'l2p' or something similar. Worse, this happens in game just as (probably more) frequently as it does the forums. I personally am in disgust of not only the state that this game was released live as, but also at how awful its community is, and it hasn't even been a week yet. Players are so salty towards Blizzard, and each other, that there are countless posts about refunds, nerfs, X character needs nerf, and Y character needs buffs and Z game mode is terrible. This mentality then carries over in-game, infecting the player-base like a rampant virus, and suddenly, not even a week after release, you have a catastrophic failure of a game on your hands. And that is exactly what Overwatch is shaping up to be. Throw aside all the terrible balancing that has been allowed to go live. (Looking at you Mcree, Tracer, Bastion, Torb, Hanzo) The maps themselves have little to no strategic value put into them. Attack, Defense, and escort modes throw teams into 1 of 2 chokepoints on many of the maps. Being unable to use terrain like roofs and railings etc as a vantage point is awful. Poor Pharah + Widowmaker players cant even get to an advantageous vantage point because 'NOPE NO ROOF FOR YOU!' The Gameplay modes are terrible. In high level play, and many streams I've viewed, the defending team is auto-win about 70% of the time. Mainly because they stack 4 Torbs and 2 bastions and the assaulting team is shredded by turret auto-aim. This is not fun or balanced gameplay. There is potential for this game to NOT suck, but it is need of a hasty, and in depth hot-fix, and a complete overhaul of player actions towards one another before any improvement will be seen in game, or in forums.
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hi it's me, the person who just figured out that pressing V allows you to melee the gently caress out of people after playing the game for like a week
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May 29, 2016 22:29
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Kilometers Davis posted:The first thing that made me fall in love with Overwatch was the option to turn voice chat volume all the way down. I haven't heard a single voice since and it's been perfect. You can just disable joining voice channels entirely if you want.
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May 29, 2016 22:29
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this is from the official forums right? lotta serious brain issues on there i used to read comments on diablo 3 balance patches on mumble while doing rifts and it was a pretty enjoyable experience
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May 29, 2016 22:32
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Theta Zero posted:After a while playing Widowmaker, I'm beginning to feel like the only good counter to Widowmaker is another Widowmaker. I can generally deal with Widowmaker as Tracer but I'm thinking that's because their team just doesn't notice. Meanwhile while I was on a communicative team, I was very frequently able to kill the other team and then have my teammates shoo away any Tracers or Genjis who got near. I've also very frequently had games where the enemy team was essentially a brick wall until one of my teammates forced them onto the point and I killed everyone once I killed their Widowmaker because there wasn't anything to stop me from just headshotting everyone that ran into my sight, either because they just ran out or my teammate wittingly lured them. Agreed, and well put. The chucklefucks trying to smugly hand wave this away are pretty annoying. I have zero sniping experience and not a ton of overall time played compared to a lot of people, and I was able to go 20/2 and swing a losing game on my first ever game with her (premade vs premade, on attack), despite being hunted by a Tracer and a Pharah on the enemy team. She has an answer to almost every situation, and can go toe to toe with most of the harrassers who should be her counter. It's crazy that she has an automatic fire mode when not scoped, and venom mine, AND grapple to quickly get into and out of position. Meanwhile poor hanzo's bow isn't even hitscan. Oh, and lol@"counter her with Winston," I've played three games with her now and found perches on all three maps he couldn't get to. Temple of Anubis was especially rich
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May 29, 2016 22:35
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Kashuno posted:You know what a team with 2 widowmakers needs? a third. We had a group of four and one of the pubbies picked her, so we all switched to widowmaker to try and make them change. They switched to hanzo...
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May 29, 2016 22:37
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I have no idea how to play Symmetra. My brain shuts down completely at the idea of a support without constant healing.
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May 29, 2016 22:38
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:Agreed, and well put. The chucklefucks trying to smugly hand wave this away are pretty annoying. I have zero sniping experience and not a ton of overall time played compared to a lot of people, and I was able to go 20/2 and swing a losing game on my first ever game with her (premade vs premade, on attack), despite being hunted by a Tracer and a Pharah on the enemy team. She has an answer to almost every situation, and can go toe to toe with most of the harrassers who should be her counter. It's crazy that she has an automatic fire mode when not scoped, and venom mine, AND grapple to quickly get into and out of position. Meanwhile poor hanzo's bow isn't even hitscan. It's so easy to be bad with widowmaker that I think people are just confused when one does well. So many of them stand still in one spot and don't care to move even if they get kills. I usually get 1 maybe 2 from a perch and then hook my way off somewhere else because all the people who chill in the same perch forever get killed so much
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May 29, 2016 22:40
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poptart_fairy posted:I have no idea how to play Symmetra. My brain shuts down completely at the idea of a support without constant healing. Put the shield on, drop the car wash on side points and rev up the lazer chainsaw.
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May 29, 2016 22:40
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poptart_fairy posted:I have no idea how to play Symmetra. My brain shuts down completely at the idea of a support without constant healing. I put sentries in annoying places like above doorways near the objective then spam her charged orb thing at the chokepoint/reinhardts and it seems to work ok
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May 29, 2016 22:41
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FAUXTON posted:Tick rate is the rate at which the server updates data, I.e. the "frame rate" of the telemetry. a better tick rate makes the game function better. i don't know why you would be hostile to the idea of increasing it
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May 29, 2016 22:42
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:
If this is possible then it needs to be fixed but it doesn't really make sense to me because is the max range of her hook really longer than Winston's jump? Maybe, I dunno. All I know is I have yet to encounter a widow in the wild that didn't immediately melt to a half decent Winston.
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May 29, 2016 22:42
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poptart_fairy posted:I have no idea how to play Symmetra. My brain shuts down completely at the idea of a support without constant healing. Mei is a support. Zarya is a support. It just means you help your teammates do their job, don't think of it in terms of heals. Just spam your turrets around to control spots, spam your right click through Reindhardt and Winston's shields, left click to kill people who are distracted (if you can chain it people will just melt), get your teleport up and running asap.
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May 29, 2016 22:43
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Verranicus posted:Scroll through the forums. No really, do it. I've noticed 2 things from reading over these posts the last 24-36 hrs: a) Players are extremely dissatisfied with this garbage game and b) an example of the worst gaming community (yes, worse than league) is on display. Even in constructive and well written posts about desires for adjustments to ANY character, or game modes etc., players too often reply with 'git gud' or 'l2p' or something similar. There are idiots like that who I ignore in every game community. I would say Overwatch is about middle of the road in terms of an awful community. Verranicus posted:Throw aside all the terrible balancing that has been allowed to go live. (Looking at you Mcree, Tracer, Bastion, Torb, Hanzo) I'm not sure if you're saying these characters are all overpowered but in my opinion they're just incredibly mindless and don't need much effort to do well as. Except slightly less so for Hanzo and Tracer, they seem like decent classes to me, although Hanzo is needlessly deadly at any range. Verranicus posted:The maps themselves have little to no strategic value put into them. Attack, Defense, and escort modes throw teams into 1 of 2 chokepoints on many of the maps. Being unable to use terrain like roofs and railings etc as a vantage point is awful. Poor Pharah + Widowmaker players cant even get to an advantageous vantage point because 'NOPE NO ROOF FOR YOU!' I do agree that the game is heavily in favor for defenders in payload and attack/defend maps just because a majority of said maps are one giant chokepoint except for El Dorado, and usually their final point being at the literal exit of the defender's spawns. I do disagree in how you said there's not a lot of vantage points. A lot of attack/defend maps have a ton of vantage points you could use. But ultimately king of the hill is my favorite game mode just because there's literally no way for the maps to be imbalanced to one team because they're symmetrical. There isn't a single KOTH map I hate compared to a majority of the payload and attack/defend maps. I think this game is fun but it needs some polish in terms of gameplay and map balancing. The game's presentation is wonderful but there's a quite a few issues that need attention.
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:Agreed, and well put. The chucklefucks trying to smugly hand wave this away are pretty annoying. I have zero sniping experience and not a ton of overall time played compared to a lot of people, and I was able to go 20/2 and swing a losing game on my first ever game with her (premade vs premade, on attack), despite being hunted by a Tracer and a Pharah on the enemy team. She has an answer to almost every situation, and can go toe to toe with most of the harrassers who should be her counter. It's crazy that she has an automatic fire mode when not scoped, and venom mine, AND grapple to quickly get into and out of position. Meanwhile poor hanzo's bow isn't even hitscan. People honestly say Winston is a counter? His shield drops in two pops and he needs to get ridiculously close and spend so much time around you just to do any damage.
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May 29, 2016 22:45
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A widow is literally only as good as the number of people on the other team that know how to play against her. This may or not be true for most of the cast, but know how to flank her, how to bait her, how to countersnipe her... this is something everyone on the team needs to be doing to be an effective counter instead of a walking target.
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May 29, 2016 22:46
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The solution to Widowmaker is to pick Mei and shoot icicles at her forever
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May 29, 2016 22:47
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Luigi Thirty posted:The solution to Widowmaker is to pick Mei and shoot icicles at her forever have fun gettin shot
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May 29, 2016 22:48
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I find Hanzo to be the more annoying sniper in the game. I'll peak Widowmaker with S76 or Mei any day of the week, but if Hanzo watches a corner that corner basically becomes a guaranteed kill zone in my experience.
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May 29, 2016 22:49
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Theta Zero posted:People honestly say Winston is a counter? His shield drops in two pops and he needs to get ridiculously close and spend so much time around you just to do any damage. He has a gap closer that negates her range advantage, armour that increases his survivability to assault mode and a pretty decent taser tentacle gun thing. She's still pretty broken but it's definitely one of the better ways to shut her down. D.va would be an excellent counter if her giant critical hitbox didn't mean that she gets blown up every time she attempts to close a gap but I'm just going to bitch about how badly they ruined her until the end of time.
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Some of you guys must not have run into the actual good Widowmakers. The ones that snap headshot and can drop 3 people in the open in less than 2 seconds. lovely Widowmakers are easy to deal with, just get in their face and muck them up. The good ones are nigh impossible to catch, and you sure as poo poo are not gonna be able to outsnipe them as Mei..
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May 29, 2016 22:54
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Broken Cog posted:Some of you guys must not have run into the actual good Widowmakers. The ones that snap headshot and can drop 3 people in the open in less than 2 seconds. lovely Widowmakers are easy to deal with, just get in their face and muck them up. The good ones are nigh impossible to catch, and you sure as poo poo is not gonna be able to outsnipe them as Mei.. "The ones that kill me are pro and the ones you guys are talking to suck, it can't be that I'm just bad at countering them"
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Randler posted:I find Hanzo to be the more annoying sniper in the game. I'll peak Widowmaker with S76 or Mei any day of the week, but if Hanzo watches a corner that corner basically becomes a guaranteed kill zone in my experience. The problem is Widow requires aim, while Hanzo on the other hand: Elman posted:https://gfycat.com/ChiefAncientGentoopenguin
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From my experience Winston is slow, falls apart against hitscan, and easy to run away from, and Mei is slow, a non-threat at a distance, and call me crazy but her head hitbox feels like it's gigantic. And I have never struggled with a D.Va unless I put myself in a situation where I act stupid and go where she can just fly up to me.
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May 29, 2016 22:57
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Your Loyal Vizier posted:Oh, and lol@"counter her with Winston," I've played three games with her now and found perches on all three maps he couldn't get to. Temple of Anubis was especially rich I can't really think any any inaccessible perches for Winston on Anubis unless you mean ones the require him to expose himself to get to her. Winston is a great counter to her on most maps as long as the she is alone AND nobody turns around to help her AND she can't grapple to nearby building to rejoin her team AND she isn't good enough to just shoot you in the head before she dies. This is all intentional too, the game directly tells you that Winston is supposed to leap onto snipers, and don't get me started on trying to kill Hanzo.
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Theta Zero posted:From my experience Winston is slow, falls apart against hitscan, and easy to run away from, and Mei is slow, a non-threat at a distance, and call me crazy but her head hitbox feels like it's gigantic. And I have never struggled with a D.Va unless I put myself in a situation where I act stupid and go where she can just fly up to me. Again theoretically D.Va should be good against Widowmaker but in practice she's slow as poo poo, huge and has a giant critbox which means that a widowmaker with half a brain will see her coming and output 290 DPS straight into her dome. It's another example of Widowmaker having more advantages than flaws because on paper the idea should be that dudes with armour should be really good at getting in her face and assault mode can do nothing against it but she makes up for it by ALSO having one of the best armour-ruining weapons in the game. Lady Naga fucked around with this message at 23:02 on May 29, 2016 |
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May 29, 2016 22:59
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Verranicus posted:"The ones that kill me are pro and the ones you guys are talking to suck, it can't be that I'm just bad at countering them" I just have to go Reinhardt most of the time now anyway, and the pubbies I play with are usually smart enough to utilize his shield, so Widowmakers are usually not my biggest concern. The only real counter to her at this point is another Widowmaker countersniping her though, as most are backed up by their team so good luck trying to Winston leap over there. Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 23:03 on May 29, 2016 |
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May 29, 2016 23:01
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Lady Naga posted:Again theoretically D.Va should be good against Widowmaker but in practice she's slow as poo poo, huge and has a giant critbox which means that a widowmaker with half a brain will see her coming and output 290 DPS straight into her dome. There is nothing in d's kit that made me ever consider using her a widow counter least of all worrying about the critbox
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Lady Naga posted:Again theoretically D.Va should be good against Widowmaker but in practice she's slow as poo poo, huge and has a giant critbox which means that a widowmaker with half a brain will see her coming and output 290 DPS straight into her dome. I do have a question about D.Va, though. Does her armor not recharge or does it take it very long time? When I'm playing Lucio, it's very irritating to hit heal boost on her only to realize that the game is yelling at me to heal somebody with unhealable damage.
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Kashuno posted:There is nothing in d's kit that made me ever consider using her a widow counter least of all worrying about the critbox She does a lot of damage up close, has a gap closer, a bullet shield and a bunch of health that is specifically made to counter heroes with fast-firing, low damage-per-hit guns. Should be a recipe for success, and yet... Theta Zero posted:I do have a question about D.Va, though. Does her armor not recharge or does it take it very long time? When I'm playing Lucio, it's very irritating to hit heal boost on her only to realize that the game is yelling at me to heal somebody with unhealable damage. Armour doesn't recharge at all, only barriers do.
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Everybody else who's been playing longer and know how to deal with equally-skilled Widowmakers are the chucklefucks for trying to give advice on how to deal with them. (there is no advice that will help when the widowmaker is significantly better than you, especially if you're bad at her counters.)
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May 29, 2016 23:05
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Is there a goon chat room in the game ?
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verbal enema posted:im playing rn add me my name is verbalenema on bnet Adding you too if you don't mind, ingame is Briarios
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May 29, 2016 23:06
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FAUXTON posted:Tick rate is the rate at which the server updates data, I.e. the "frame rate" of the telemetry. Sort of late on this but this is a good demonstration of what tickrate is if you don't feel like watching a long video. It's basically where their shootzone for your hurtbullets to go and how often it changes with their position. 
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If you want to play with a cool dude who may not be the best but has fun anyway add Verranicus#1333.
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Verranicus posted:If you want to play with a cool dude who may not be the best but has fun anyway add Verranicus#1333. I added you as ThetaZero#11890. I'm not going to be playing for a while, though.
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FAUXTON posted:Tick rate is the rate at which the server updates data, I.e. the "frame rate" of the telemetry. tick rate is pretty loving important to live action multiplayer games idiot
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24 kills as reinhardt i dont even fuckin care and i got the potg thats wassup
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May 29, 2016 23:27
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Like as a decent widowmaker all it takes to shut me down is one aggressive and sneaky flanker or Winston, it doesn't matter if I can down his barrier in like two charged shots if he's right on top of me and juking around because he doesn't need to aim at all. A widow who can take on a Winston 1v1 in close range is a drat good player.
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I caved in and bought the white mariachi outfit for Reaper. What are some good maps/situations for Reaper? I find myself too often playing the same heroes on the same maps (well, mostly Junkrat on everything) and I'm sure there's some where Reaper shines. Conversely, what are some maps/situations where you absolutely don't want to play as him?
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