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ToxicSlurpee
Nov 5, 2003

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Pillbug

pentyne posted:

"But what if these illegals have kids who are citizens, and who despite all the economic and social disadvantages against them somehow manage to seriously compete at the same academic level as my kids society will crumble!"

It takes a special set of stupid to openly admit "Yes I'm selfish for wanting my children to succeed" while also saying you want any potential challengers to them to be deported or prevented from ever being a threat and still expecting anyone to say that is a reasonable response.

That's been something as old as society, though; those with power and wealth rig they game so their own children do well and everybody else does not. Then they say "see? Everybody but us sucks, we deserve our wealth and power." Then when their wealth and power increases they rig the game and gently caress everybody else even harder.

What do you mean that tends to lead to unrest and rebellion? Those people should know their place.

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Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
The one good thing about Nepotism though is it breeds the kind of ruler or authority that has no idea how to wield its own power nor inspire loving subservience from regular people. Inevitably, generations of people that have never known real struggle or how do anything except demand the success God will surely give to them results in Ted Cruz or Bush the 3rd.

Oh good, at least the most important word filter still exists. :)

Crabtree fucked around with this message at 08:33 on May 29, 2016

Schizotek
Nov 8, 2011

I say, hey, listen to me!
Stay sane inside insanity!!!

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

i think the most offensive thing about the racist white boy is his asian girlfriend

Technolibertarian freaks fetishize Asians to hell and back. They're pretty much the ultimate lolbert status symbol. Not only because they're your favorite anime character come to life, but now you can confidently shout dindu jokes into your headset all night without having to worry about being Racist.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

It actually doesn't surprise me when paired with his desire to see affirmative action dismantled. Isn't there a fair number of Asians who want to get rid of it (because those drat black/Latino kids don't deserve to get into college over their straight-A children, a thing which totally isn't stdh.txt)?

Reminds me of a very amusing study I read about a while back that polled White people on what they think about AA, and the vast majority said they staunchly oppose it. But when they were asked if they felt the same way when presented a hypothetical situation where a major university accepted Asian students at a much higher rate than Whites (as it the case for many UC schools), well surprise surprise! Turns out nearly all of them flipped their positions! :iiam: It seems that meritocracy is all well and good, but come on now, let's not go overboard here. A little government enforced help never hurt nobody.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Schizotek posted:

Technolibertarian freaks fetishize Asians to hell and back. They're pretty much the ultimate lolbert status symbol. Not only because they're your favorite anime character come to life, but now you can confidently shout dindu jokes into your headset all night without having to worry about being Racist.

That and Asians being the "model minority" let's them have an "exotic" other that is almost as good as a white trophy spouse.


Crabtree posted:

The one good thing about Nepotism though is it breeds the kind of ruler or authority that has no idea how to wield its own power nor inspire loving subservience from regular people. Inevitably, generations of people that have never known real struggle or how do anything except demand the success God will surely give to them results in Ted Cruz or Bush the 3rd.

Oh good, at least the most important word filter still exists. :)

True, but the sheer volume of damage these idiot noble children do can take centuries to undo and the rigging usually ensures that someone just as bad will take hold after the upheaval assuming they can keep the bulk of public anger off them.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

TheOneAndOnlyT posted:

It actually doesn't surprise me when paired with his desire to see affirmative action dismantled. Isn't there a fair number of Asians who want to get rid of it (because those drat black/Latino kids don't deserve to get into college over their straight-A children, a thing which totally isn't stdh.txt)?

the dylann storm liu wing of the asian american community hates affirmative action for that reason, yeah; they're delusional enough to think that they're actually white people and don't comprehend that our honorary white status can be revoked at a whim

it says a lot to me that these people who profess to value hard work aren't impressed by these black and latino kids, who manage to do at least 90% as well as their special snowflakes despite having access to a fraction of their resources, instead start howling about how those black and brown untermenschen from compton or richmond stole babby's rightful space at berkeley. and these people shell out thousands of bucks on SAT prep courses to pump up their SAT and SAT II and AP scores. and heck, i went to one of these filthy rich, virtually all-asian high schools in the silicon valley; test prep centers made a killing because almost all my peers would spend the summer before their junior and/or senior years taking these prep courses. and i can absolutely attest that a lot of my peers and their parents felt entitled to admission to the top-tier UCs and ivy league schools as a result, and that the only difference between dylann roof and a lot of these people is that roof actually acted on his sociopathic levels of hatred for black people.



thankfully, the vast majority of asian america supports affirmative action; the racist reactionaries are but a very vocal (and overblown by the media, which seems to like portraying us all as hating black people) minority of the community, much like the dylann storm liu's who cheered when peter liang wasn't sent to prison

Jerry Manderbilt fucked around with this message at 14:51 on May 29, 2016

Loeb CL
Nov 18, 2011

:toot: It's someone's birthday today! :toot:

Caiden Cowger, the voice of a generation, turns 18 years old today!

https://twitter.com/caidencowger/status/736629057379565568

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


He sure has a wide head.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
And one of the most punchable faces I've ever seen.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Nice to see Slitheryn Head Prefect survived the year so far.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
He also looks like a pycho.

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Inspector Gesicht posted:

He sure has a wide head.

he should have built a wall around it, so all his success didnt go there

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!

Loeb CL posted:

:toot: It's someone's birthday today! :toot:

Caiden Cowger, the voice of a generation, turns 18 years old today!

https://twitter.com/caidencowger/status/736629057379565568



Well now I'm curious what his book is about. What are the odds it's just a bunch of clichéd conservative platitudes loosely strung together by vaguely connective sentences.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Loeb CL posted:

:toot: It's someone's birthday today! :toot:

Caiden Cowger, the voice of a generation, turns 18 years old today!

https://twitter.com/caidencowger/status/736629057379565568



He's legal now! :swoon:

Ha:
https://twitter.com/CaidenCowger/status/731612006520893440

deoju
Jul 11, 2004

All the pieces matter.
Nap Ghost
Just visually that cover is atrocious. The teal shirt, orange lighting, obviously stock photo in the background.

And the name? He is 18. Does he want to restore the halcyon days of the W administration?

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

dylann storm liu

drat.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

i mean, fitting nickname for the racist rear end in a top hat asians who seem to go out of their way to live up to roof's description of us in his manifesto: "naturally very racist, will make great allies for the white race when RaHoWa comes"

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/scrowder/status/736391573085261825

Zanzibar Ham
Mar 17, 2009

You giving me the cold shoulder? How cruel.


Grimey Drawer



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o53N9pUFBHQ&t=156s

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Chilichimp posted:

Opposition to the civil rights act came from Southern Democrats. It represented a party rift, and Republicans played along with getting the law passed as best they could, and even helped draft the compromise bill that ended the ~60 day filibuster.


They got the bill out of this shitheads committee using a legislative judo move called a "legislative discharge"


Look, I'm familiar that these southern democrats soon left the party and slowly the ideology and bigotry they represented would shift to the "solid south" for Republicans, but... there's really no reason to phrase your statement the way you did:


That ain't how the Civil Rights act went down.

Yeah, that's fair. I probably should have said "conservatives" instead of Republicans. The point I was trying to make is that civil rights was seen by its opponents as a unique issue that was beyond compromise, while conservatives today treat practically every issue as beyond compromise.

Nihilarian
Oct 2, 2013


Looks like he's having fun :)

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you



I wanna give this tweet a swirlie.

Barswine
Jan 8, 2015

I opened pandora's box and all this shit came out??

Xanderkish posted:

Well now I'm curious what his book is about. What are the odds it's just a bunch of clichéd conservative platitudes loosely strung together by vaguely connective sentences.

Here's the table of contents, as per Amazon:

Part One: Destroying America
1. Unconstitutional
2. War on Religion
3. Freedom of Silence
4. Immorality
5. Ignorance
6. Give Me Your Money
7. War on Wealth
8. Value of Life
9. Rise of a U. S. S. A.

Part Two: Restoring America
10. Restoring Unity
11. Restore Balance
12. Communism Shall Not Prevail
13. Restore Patriotism

You — yes, you — can read these fine 144 pages for the mere price of $54.99!

(He also cites Jesus-Is-Savior.com unironically.)

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Loeb CL posted:

Caiden Cowger, the voice of a generation, turns 18 years old today!


So is that guy like the 2nd to last "notable" young conservative/republican?

I seem to recall a black kid making the rounds on social media/wingnut media last year for his epic youtube burn of Obama. Also the kid, who is in middle school trying to start a Kids for Zodiac Killer club at his school.

Then he jumped ship to Bernie(after Rubio?) and mysteriously all his DEFINITELY NOT ASTROTURFED media stuff stopped.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

RareAcumen posted:






Thank god we're keeping our wives and daughter safe from those filthy transgender 'people'!

God these people are so dense.

In light of the child molestation fearmongering aimed at trans folks, columnist Da Savage has resurrected "Youth Pastor Watch", chronicling the actual and widespread child abuse at the hands of youth ministers. He usually writes about 5-6 per week.

http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2016/04/29/24022546/the-return-of-youth-pastor-watch

But yeah, bathrooms are where predators are lurking to abuse kids.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

It's funny how racists think that if Trump is elected he will magically cause "racism" to disappear, and racists everywhere will be able to say racist things publicly and there will be no accountability.

beatlegs fucked around with this message at 19:15 on May 29, 2016

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Trump will outlaw the act of calling people racist, thereby ending racism.

Loeb CL
Nov 18, 2011

If Donald Trump outlawed the act of calling people racist, I bet he'd use that Stormfront talking-point about how Trotsky invented the word "racism," and therefore anyone who says that word is a communist.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Republicans posted:

I wanna give this tweet a swirlie.

It definitely reads as someone who is not going to prom and trying to make it as boring for everyone else.

BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.


gently caress it, this proves that The Captain becoming A Hydra agent is not he worst idea of all time.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

The Ape of Naples posted:

It definitely reads as someone who is not going to prom and trying to make it as boring for everyone else.

What, you mean all the right wing columnists/bloggers are actually turbo dorks that hate anyone that got to have fun, drink or gently caress while they got high off of following all the rules? But, they always act like they're the popular ones, who actually had to try to follow Conservative dogma to remain pure - not because they were completely repulsive freaks that made sure absolutely no one could like them!

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

You know if I could make a career out of cosplay, I would probably do it.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Mr Interweb posted:

Reminds me of a very amusing study I read about a while back that polled White people on what they think about AA, and the vast majority said they staunchly oppose it. But when they were asked if they felt the same way when presented a hypothetical situation where a major university accepted Asian students at a much higher rate than Whites (as it the case for many UC schools), well surprise surprise! Turns out nearly all of them flipped their positions! :iiam: It seems that meritocracy is all well and good, but come on now, let's not go overboard here. A little government enforced help never hurt nobody.

personally, i read that as "white people favor meritocracy, it's just that they'll bend the criteria to come up with a definition of the word that benefits them the most"

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

personally, i read that as "white people favor meritocracy, it's just that they'll bend the criteria to come up with a definition of the word that benefits them the most"

"Everyone should just lift themselves up by their bootstraps and work harder if they want to get ahead. The only reason I need welfare is that the lazy liberals in congress forced the plant to outsource to India and now hardworking honest Americans like me are helpless victims who deserve everything we want from the commies running the show"

"Abortion is wrong and should be illegal and doctors should go to jail for it. My daughter needs this abortion because she was tricked by some scummy Hispanic who probably isn't even in this country legally so clearly she is the exception."

"Literally everyone should be allowed to carry guns where ever they want without fear of being stopped by the police. Those BLM protestors are waving their guns in the air and are clearly planning to murder a bunch of tax paying white people the cops need to arrest them and take away their guns."

Everyone has a strong opinion about something until suddenly exceptions need to be made because of their personal inconveniences or circumstances, while at the same time continuing to yell about their beliefs to anyone who will listen and that they are the sole and only exception but it doesn't mean they're wrong.

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




pentyne posted:

Everyone has a strong opinion about something until suddenly exceptions need to be made because of their personal inconveniences or circumstances, while at the same time continuing to yell about their beliefs to anyone who will listen and that they are the sole and only exception but it doesn't mean they're wrong.

Politics.txt

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
You forgot "Criminals don't deserve rights or any sort of comfort of regular civilian life, but I got arrested for asserting my sov cit beliefs, give me my guns in jail".

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~
Can't forget "Handouts for are staling from hardworking Americans for the lazy few. Now give me my Medicare and Social Security because I earned it!"

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/05/29/opinion/sunday/the-liberal-blind-spot.html

quote:

CLASSIC liberalism exalted tolerance, reflected in a line often (and probably wrongly) attributed to Voltaire: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

On university campuses, that is sometimes updated to: “I disapprove of what you say, so shut up.”

In a column a few weeks ago, I offered “a confession of liberal intolerance,” criticizing my fellow progressives for promoting all kinds of diversity on campuses — except ideological. I argued that universities risk becoming liberal echo chambers and hostile environments for conservatives, and especially for evangelical Christians.

As I see it, we are hypocritical: We welcome people who don’t look like us, as long as they think like us.

It’s rare for a column to inspire widespread agreement, but that one led to a consensus: Almost every liberal agreed that I was dead wrong.


“You don’t diversify with idiots,” asserted the reader comment on The Times’s website that was most recommended by readers (1,099 of them). Another: Conservatives “are narrow-minded and are sure they have the right answers.”

Finally, this one recommended by readers: “I am grossly disappointed in you for this essay, Mr. Kristof. You have spent so much time in troubled places seemingly calling out misogyny and bigotry. And yet here you are, scolding and shaming progressives for not mindlessly accepting patriarchy, misogyny, complementarianism, and hateful, hateful bigotry against the LGBTQ community into the academy.”

Mixed in here are legitimate issues. I don’t think that a university should hire a nincompoop who disputes evolution, or a racist who preaches inequality. But as I see it, the bigger problem is not that conservatives are infiltrating social science departments to spread hatred, but rather that liberals have turned departments into enclaves of ideological homogeneity.

Sure, there are dumb or dogmatic conservatives, just as there are dumb and dogmatic liberals. So let’s avoid those who are dumb and dogmatic, without using politics or faith as a shorthand for mental acuity.

On campuses at this point, illiberalism is led by liberals. The knee-jerk impulse to protest campus speakers from the right has grown so much that even Democrats like Madeleine Albright, the first female secretary of state, have been targeted.

Obviously, the challenges faced by conservatives are not the same as those faced by blacks, reflecting centuries of discrimination that continues today. I’ve often written about unconscious bias and about how many “whites just don’t get it.” But liberals claim to be champions of inclusiveness — so why, in the academic turf that we control, aren’t we ourselves more inclusive? If we are alert to bias in other domains, why don’t we tackle our own liberal blind spot?

Frankly, the torrent of scorn for conservative closed-mindedness confirmed my view that we on the left can be pretty closed-minded ourselves.

As I see it, there are three good reasons for universities to be more welcoming not just to women or blacks, but also to conservatives.

First, stereotyping and discrimination are wrong, whether against gays or Muslims, or against conservatives or evangelicals. We shouldn’t define one as bigotry and the other as enlightenment.

When a survey finds that more than half of academics in some fields would discriminate against a job seeker who they learned was an evangelical, that feels to me like bigotry.

Second, there’s abundant evidence of the benefits of diversity. Bringing in members of minorities is not an act of charity but a way of strengthening an organization. Yet universities suffer a sickly sameness: Four studies have found that at most only about one professor in 10 in the humanities or social sciences is a Republican.

I’ve often denounced conservative fearmongering about Muslims and refugees, and the liberal hostility toward evangelicals seems rooted in a similar insularity. Surveys show that Americans have negative views of Muslims when they don’t know any; I suspect many liberals disdain evangelicals in part because they don’t have any evangelical friends.


Sure, achieving diversity is a frustrating process, but it enriches organizations and improves decision-making. So let’s aim for ideological as well as ethnic diversity.

Third, when scholars cluster on the left end of the spectrum, they marginalize themselves. We desperately need academics like sociologists and anthropologists influencing American public policy on issues like poverty, yet when they are in an outer-left orbit, their wisdom often goes untapped.

In contrast, economists remain influential. I wonder if that isn’t partly because there is a critical mass of Republican economists who battle the Democratic economists and thus tether the discipline to the American mainstream.

I’ve had scores of earnest conversations with scholars on these issues. Many make the point that there simply aren’t many conservative social scientists available to hire. That’s true. The self-selection is also understandable: If I were on the right, I’d be wary of pursuing an academic career (conservatives repeatedly described to me being belittled on campuses and suffering what in other contexts are called microaggressions).

To improve diversity, universities have tried to increase the numbers of minority scholars in the pipeline, in part by being more welcoming. Maybe a starting point to bolster ideological diversity would likewise be to signal that conservatives are not second-class citizens on campuses: We liberals should have the self-confidence to believe that our values can triumph in a fair contest in the marketplace of ideas.

There are no quick solutions to the ideological homogeneity on campuses, but shouldn’t we at least acknowledge that this is a shortcoming, rather than celebrate our sameness?

Can’t we be a bit more self-aware when we dismiss conservatives as so cocky and narrow-minded that they should be excluded from large swaths of higher education?

Cocky? Narrow-minded? I suggest that we look in the mirror.

I've been waiting for the point where mainstream liberals / the Jon Chait crowd drop the pretense of common cause with the left and start openly throwing redbaiting tantrums in defense of their privileges as the rightful aristocratic rulers of the filthy idiot masses. I think this election is it

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 00:50 on May 30, 2016

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Why can't you stupid liberals just stop saying mean things about us. Only we can say mean things! You're the ones that are supposed to be tolerant and forgiving and take the burden of others, so take all the burden I put on you and smile correctly when I do!

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icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Crabtree posted:

Why can't you stupid liberals just stop saying mean things about us. Only we can say mean things! You're the ones that are supposed to be tolerant and forgiving and take the burden of others, so take all the burden I put on you and smile correctly when I do!

You have to understand that liberals of the NYT/Atlantic/New Republic bent do not actually want progressive/left-wing change. They want to be able to feel like Serious, Reasonable Adults by defending the status quo. That is the entire basis of their politics. Opposing the Tea Party and the Republican right is a good way to do that, and while the right is still a major threat allying with the left is convenient for them. But if/when the left gains actual power they'll do the same thing in reverse. They're never going to let the left kick the football, so to speak, because doing so would mean meaningful sacrifice on the part of the liberal aristocratic class

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 01:30 on May 30, 2016

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