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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Al Giordano just announced he's gonna challenge Sanders in 2018

Even if Bernie doesn't run again in 2018, Welch will smoke him. Railing against Bernie in Vermont ain't a smart move.

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Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

smg77 posted:

The libertarian party has been going buck wild for a while now. They are just getting more attention this year.

Sure, but I'm asking if there is an extra goal in mind this election year in giving them that bigger helping of attention?

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Al Giordano just announced he's gonna challenge Sanders in 2018

The guy who owns Screw magazine? Didn't he die a couple years ago?

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
spoiler:

https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/737096229675368448

https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/737097983884304384

he's trolling twitter

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
He should stick to hilarious jokes about Ann Coulter being trans.

Kafka Esq.
Jan 1, 2005

"If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

Thank you for meeting my uspol cancon quota.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
If you want some real crazy, there's always America's third-oldest continuously active party, and longest lived third party! The Prohibition Party!

professionalism!

Founded in 1869 and in continuous operation ever since, the Prohibition Party brings you right wing views and bizarre intra-party fights! From 2003 to 2007 when he died, Earl Dodge, the presidential nominee in the 1984, 88, 92, 96 and 2000 election years, ran a splinter group which nominated him for president in his Colorado living room by unanimous vote of the 8 delegates who were present. Even though he died 9 years ago, there's still a fierce legal battle between the factions for George Pennock's donation to the party enacted in 1930 - a fund set up to fund the Prohibition Party by approximately $8000 a year.

Recent national conventions have been held in such fancy locations as in 2004 at Fairfield Glade, Tennessee (for the main branch) and a Lakewood, Colorado living room. In 2008 the one branch left able to hold a convention did so at the Adams Mark Hotel,
Indianapolis - which has since closed (incidentally "In the late 1990s and early 2000s, Adams Mark faced several civil, state, and federal lawsuits for racial discrimination against Black customers. It was the first entire hotel chain to face a United States Justice Department inquiry into racial discrimination for violations of the Civil Rights Act of 1964." Classy!)

2012's convention was held at the very high class Holiday Inn Express of Cullman, Alabama (a town whose main attraction is that it's about halfway between Huntsville and Birmingham). And the 2016 convention? That was held as a conference call!

But hey, it's not all down points for them! Here's some of their illustrious office holders:

Susanna M. Salter – Mayor of Argonia, Kansas (1887): the first female mayor in the United States
Charles Hiram Randall – California State Assemblyman (1911–12) and U.S. Representative from the 9th District of California (1915–21)
Sidney Johnston Catts – Governor of Florida (1917–1921)
James Hedges – Thompson Township, Pennsylvania, Tax Assessor (2002–2007)

Well, that's actually the sum total of their members who actually got elected to any proven office in their 147 year history. Other people have been alleged but can't be backed up. And the guy who was governor of Florida was just a guy who narrowly lost the Democrat nomination and thus grabbed the Prohibition nomination to stay up for election, apparently, but he did get elected under their banner!

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/fbihop/status/737115981776982017

Haha I find this sort of endearing, until I remember their horrifying ideology.

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!
A short piece in this week's Economist talks about how and why Oklahoma's budget is hosed up.

quote:

A poll last year found 98% of Oklahomans back higher classroom pay, dividing only over whether to raise salaries across-the-board, or on merit. That consensus makes raising teachers’ pay a good test of basic governance. Alas, legislators negotiating a new budget have spent May failing it.
[...]
Budget negotiations ended without a pay rise for teachers (and indeed resulted in a 16% cut to higher education) [...]

smg77
Apr 27, 2007

Crabtree posted:

Sure, but I'm asking if there is an extra goal in mind this election year in giving them that bigger helping of attention?

Finally overcoming the tyranny of the two-party system?

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Gobbeldygook posted:

A short piece in this week's Economist talks about how and why Oklahoma's budget is hosed up.

It's been pretty funny watching the great right wing governance experiments failing horribly considering how they used to be touted as shining examples of the way forward. The Wisconsin-Minnesota Experiment indeed

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Epic High Five posted:

It's been pretty funny watching the great right wing governance experiments failing horribly considering how they used to be touted as shining examples of the way forward. The Wisconsin-Minnesota Experiment indeed

They'll just blame it on the gays probably.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
Market wasn't free enough.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

DemeaninDemon posted:

Market wasn't free enough.

Liberals chased off the Job Creators.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Gobbeldygook posted:

A short piece in this week's Economist talks about how and why Oklahoma's budget is hosed up.


CommieGIR posted:

They'll just blame it on the gays probably.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/11/19/2970531/oklahoma-national-guard/

Speak of the loving devil

quote:

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin (R) announced earlier this month that state-owned National Guard facilities will no longer allow any married couples to apply for spousal benefits, regardless of whether they are same-sex or opposite-sex. The Supreme Court’s decision overturning the Defense of Marriage Act means that servicemembers with same-sex spouses are now eligible for federal benefits. Fallin’s unusual tactic is designed to avoid having to recognize those couples, which she asserts would violate Oklahoma’s constitutional amendment limiting marriage to one man and one woman:

FALLIN: Oklahoma law is clear. The state of Oklahoma does not recognize same-sex marriages, nor does it confer marriage benefits to same-sex couples. The decision reached today allows the National Guard to obey Oklahoma law without violating federal rules or policies. It protects the integrity of our state constitution and sends a message to the federal government that they cannot simply ignore our laws or the will of the people.

This decision directly contradicts an order from Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordering states to provide same-sex couples with the federal benefits they deserve under the law. All married couples will now have to travel to one of the five federal facilities in Oklahoma to apply for benefits. Incidentally, the state’s facilities were built almost entirely with federal funds and 90 percent of the Oklahoma Military Department — which includes the National Guard — is funded by the federal government.

Pretty sure SCOTUS ruled on that Fallin :allears:

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

CommieGIR posted:

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2013/11/19/2970531/oklahoma-national-guard/

Speak of the loving devil


Pretty sure SCOTUS ruled on that Fallin :allears:

That was 2013.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Crowsbeak posted:

That was 2013.

Killed by dates again. Apparently it was actually about the 'update' at the bottom of the article where Fallin is distancing herself from her earlier claims.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

CommieGIR posted:

They'll just blame it on the gays probably.

DemeaninDemon posted:

Market wasn't free enough.

CommieGIR posted:

Liberals chased off the Job Creators.
It will never cease to amaze the ease with which the right copes with cognitive dissonance. Conservatism / trickle-down / austerity / blood magic / whatever, are self-evidently the best ideas theoretically possible obviously, and whenever they don't work in practice (which is always) it's because some liberal idea found its way into the system and contaminated it. Like, Oklahoma is a mess because they're paying teachers too much, or because they have public education at all, even if that's a small part of the economy and budget.

And then these same assholes will bleat that socialism "only works on paper" :rolleyes:

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
Conservatism cannot fail it can only be failed.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Gobbeldygook posted:

A short piece in this week's Economist talks about how and why Oklahoma's budget is hosed up.

Holy god, simple legislative majority required to lower taxes, three-fourths supermajority in the legislature to raise them back up if you find out you cut them too much :downs:

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

DemeaninDemon posted:

Conservatism cannot fail it can only be failed.

Are there guidelines/rules on what happens if a state is completely de-populated? Does the flag lose a star?

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum

smg77 posted:

Finally overcoming the tyranny of the two-party system?

I mean it's not exactly rocket science or high tier Machiavellian plotting to just let the Libertarians take a poo poo on the floor live on television as its just letting them show how much more stupid the right could look, but these people planned for Jeb to not be a mess so why not hope for that extra incentive for morons to pull Trump and not whatever wannabe Dictator the Libs pick this year.

PhazonLink posted:

Are there guidelines/rules on what happens if a state is completely de-populated? Does the flag lose a star?

The first ghost state.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

VitalSigns posted:

Holy god, simple legislative majority required to lower taxes, three-fourths supermajority in the legislature to raise them back up if you find out you cut them too much :downs:

So how long till Oklahoma goes bankrupt?

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
We've already had a state say "Check's in the mail this time. Promise!" When it comes to debts due, right?

Let's keep this going and get an honest to god state to Puerto Rico themselves.

cams
Mar 28, 2003


FilthyImp posted:

We've already had a state say "Check's in the mail this time. Promise!" When it comes to debts due, right?

Let's keep this going and get an honest to god state to Puerto Rico themselves.
I am for dropping Oklahoma as a state and adopting Puerto Rico.

PleasingFungus
Oct 10, 2012
idiot asshole bitch who should fuck off

Joementum posted:

The Libertarian Presidential debate is currently on C-SPAN, by the way.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

this is hosed up

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice
I voted against these mods so don't blame me.

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

PleasingFungus posted:

this is hosed up

it's shameful is what it is

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Sure this thread is bad, but did we need to be punished by three days without Joe?

Especially after stripping beard man showed us the true meaning of freedom!

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

We'll need to put this in the title somewhere before people start asking whether he's dead like last time he was gone for a while.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002
Why do so many people in this thread have that yoda avatar?

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT
They asked about the Yoda avatar.

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Rincewinds posted:

They asked about the Yoda avatar.

This happened to me. First rule of not-Yoda club is, don't talk about Yoda club :(

Also FREE JOEMENTUM!

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


I will be very sad if Joementum decides all this crap isn't worth it and stops posting regularly. :smith:

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


PleasingFungus posted:

this is hosed up

That is really stupid.

downout
Jul 6, 2009

The US presidential primaries have nothing to do with US politics! This is clear to everyone right? Right?

VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




Stereotype posted:

I voted against these mods so don't blame me.

We can vote for mods?

Usually AA is a real good mod, but banning Joementum for good and funny posting about the libertarian convention is dumb. Free Joementum!

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Joementum posted:

The Libertarian Presidential debate is currently on C-SPAN, by the way.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

hosed up

unprobate joe

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Joementum's name means every post is cyberbullying senior Democratic Statesman Joe Lieberman. Three cheers to the mods for putting an antisemitic (white, male?) poster in their place.

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Sloppy Milkshake
Nov 9, 2004

I MAKE YOU HUMBLE

McDowell posted:

Joementum's name means every post is cyberbullying senior Democratic Statesman Joe Lieberman. Three cheers to the mods for putting an antisemitic (white, male?) poster in their place.

no

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