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Is there any damage falloff in this game? Or can you do full damage at any range (shotguns excluded), I mean more for characters like Torb and Soldier than WIdowmaker or Reaper.
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May 30, 2016 15:08
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Evernoob posted:From the Wiki (I know this isn't considered actual testing, i'll try it out tonight) That doesn't really address the situation we're talking about though. When I play someone with shields and have torb armor I haven't noticed my shields lasting longer, but again that isn't some strict testing.
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May 30, 2016 15:10
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VodeAndreas posted:Is there any damage falloff in this game? Or can you do full damage at any range (shotguns excluded), I mean more for characters like Torb and Soldier than WIdowmaker or Reaper. Yes, most hitscan weapons have a damage falloff. Especially McCree and Soldier come to mind. Most projectile based weapons do not suffer this.
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May 30, 2016 15:11
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ZypherIM posted:That doesn't really address the situation we're talking about though. When I play someone with shields and have torb armor I haven't noticed my shields lasting longer, but again that isn't some strict testing. I'll try to test this somehow later tonight when I get home. I would like to know for sure myself. Remember armor doesn't help much against rockets or such. Best way to test this would be by standing in front of a turret.
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May 30, 2016 15:13
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Well you can tell it's a bank holiday. Seriously had some of the worst teams today, worse then day one. Also had a defense Watchpoint match and when I picked Pharah my team freaked out because we were 'defending not attacking' and then they picked 2 D.vas and a Reinhardt. The payload went uncontested straight through.
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May 30, 2016 15:29
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Evernoob posted:Yes, most hitscan weapons have a damage falloff. Especially McCree and Soldier come to mind. Light-Gun D.Va, Genji, Junkrat, Lucio, Mei, Mercy, Pharah, Roadhog's secondary, Torbjorn's primary, Assault Widowmaker, Winston, Zarya's secondary and Zenyatta all don't fall off. The catch is that most of them (pretty much all the higher DPS ones) are either projectiles or have a straight up effective range where anything past it doesn't do damage at all. e: whoops I forgot to include characters that have a charge mechanic. So Symmetra, Widowmaker's Sniper, and Zarya's primary also don't have falloff. Neither do Torb's sentries. Lady Naga fucked around with this message at 15:36 on May 30, 2016 |
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May 30, 2016 15:32
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Internet Kraken posted:How do I play Reinhart good Put Looking for Freedom on loop. Go for the gold.
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so... mei she has annoying mechanics and the most stupid healing skill in the game. but sometimes i genuinely wonder if she has a weakness. people always get pissed when they see similarities between tf2 and overwatch but mei just straight up takes 2 of the most hated mechanics and play styles from tf2... then makes them worse so for those of you who play tf2 just think of a natascha and a wm1 pyro then attach a sniper rifle to that abomination and that about sums up mei. i just hate seeing the annoying play style that mei encourages. so in closing i don't think mei is unfixable but she is a 3 star character and in my opinion needs a big rebalance so she lives up to the 3 star dificulty rating. it will shock you to learn he is a ~genji main~
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May 30, 2016 15:39
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So on the Change Hero screen is there a key I can press equivalent to "Change Hero?" You can scroll through them with the arrow keys but Enter just brings up the chat window and Space does nothing?
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May 30, 2016 15:39
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I'm really bugged by Widow's low-res tattoo for some reason. In a game where everything looks so pretty it stands out like a sore thumb:
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May 30, 2016 15:41
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Reo posted:So on the Change Hero screen is there a key I can press equivalent to "Change Hero?" You can scroll through them with the arrow keys but Enter just brings up the chat window and Space does nothing? click their faces
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May 30, 2016 15:41
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Soothing Vapors posted:click their faces
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May 30, 2016 15:43
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Reo posted:I mean to confirm my selection. The point being I don't want to have to locate my mouse cursor i feel like some sort of fast select would be good for competitive games but its not surprising that clicking on faces is a skill in a game where clicking on faces is a skill
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May 30, 2016 15:53
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Edmond Dantes posted:I'm really bugged by Widow's low-res tattoo for some reason. In a game where everything looks so pretty it stands out like a sore thumb: Roadhog's tattoo looks bad too, as does Zarya's nails in her punk skins. Not sure what this game's issue with textures is.
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May 30, 2016 15:54
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I really don't understand why D.Va is classed as a tank hero. Nothing about the way I play D.Va involves me soaking damage for anyone else in any way whatsoever.
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Soothing Vapors posted:so... mei she has annoying mechanics and the most stupid healing skill in the game. but sometimes i genuinely wonder if she has a weakness. people always get pissed when they see similarities between tf2 and overwatch but mei just straight up takes 2 of the most hated mechanics and play styles from tf2... then makes them worse so for those of you who play tf2 just think of a natascha and a wm1 pyro then attach a sniper rifle to that abomination and that about sums up mei. i just hate seeing the annoying play style that mei encourages. so in closing i don't think mei is unfixable but she is a 3 star character and in my opinion needs a big rebalance so she lives up to the 3 star dificulty rating. I think once people learn the maps better, Mei players will have a harder time flanking. She has no mobility skills, so she gets by just on catching people unaware. Her combos are pretty tough to deal with, but they take a long time to set up. She has to fully freeze you to land her headshots, so if you have a teammate nearby they might be able to save you or at least take her out while she reloads. I've seen some extra annoying Mei's who are good at the self heal / ice wall combo, where they heal up and immediately wall you off to get away. Unless you can trap her or jump over the wall, you can't really do much there.
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May 30, 2016 15:57
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Widow's skins are pretty dope and it sucks that I'm a terrible sniper because I like playing the characters with the pretty poo poo.
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May 30, 2016 16:01
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Dias posted:Widow's skins are pretty dope and it sucks that I'm a terrible sniper because I like playing the characters with the pretty poo poo. Just play solo queue, everyone's a terrible sniper and if you want to play Widowmaker you're not going to get any better avoiding her.
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May 30, 2016 16:15
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They key to playing Reinhardt is to remember that some people stand in the darkness, afraid to step into the light. Don't be one of them. Also some people need to help somebody when the edge of surrender is in sight. You need to do that too.
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May 30, 2016 16:16
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When can you leave a match and still get rewarded your experience for participating. Before the play of the game, during the card voting, or not until the actual experience meter pops up? VV cool, thanks.
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May 30, 2016 16:17
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LibbyM posted:When can you leave a match and still get rewarded your experience for participating. Before the play of the game, during the card voting, or not until the actual experience meter pops up? As soon as the match is decided (the "Victory" or "Defeat" animations begin), you are awarded experience and can leave the game without penalty until the next round/game begins.
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May 30, 2016 16:18
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A Magical Lamp posted:Just play solo queue, everyone's a terrible sniper and if you want to play Widowmaker you're not going to get any better avoiding her. She's my "well, we lost this game, whatever" pick.
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May 30, 2016 16:23
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Torbjörn's gun feels like too much to me because it can be spammed at distance, doesn't seem to have damage falloff, and can do headshots. I've gotten a lot of kills spamming it at a choke because of lucky headshots that seem like total bullshit. I want to like tracer because she plays a lot like the scout but I feel like tracer's guns have to be held on the target's head for a full clip in order to get kills and I'm not great at that. Scout's meatshots are easier.
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May 30, 2016 16:26
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A Magical Lamp posted:I really don't understand why D.Va is classed as a tank hero. Nothing about the way I play D.Va involves me soaking damage for anyone else in any way whatsoever. There's no flanker category.
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May 30, 2016 16:27
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Germstore posted:There's no flanker category. Actually, that's assault (except 76)
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May 30, 2016 16:28
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Dren posted:I want to like tracer because she plays a lot like the scout but I feel like tracer's guns have to be held on the target's head for a full clip in order to get kills and I'm not great at that. Scout's meatshots are easier. The scouts vertical mobility was a huge and important part of the character too, tracer is lacking that in the direct comparison.
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May 30, 2016 16:29
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Yeah offense is more about mobility than damage. Mcree is the outlier
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May 30, 2016 16:30
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Slowpoke! posted:I think once people learn the maps better, Mei players will have a harder time flanking. She has no mobility skills, so she gets by just on catching people unaware. She can wall under her to get up to some places, but generally she's only ok yea. Typically when I have a Mei on my team it's the dreaded "Mei main" and they're always terrible and block everyone's shots with random rear end walls.
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May 30, 2016 16:32
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Hero roles are a social construct.
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It's actually kind of shocking for all the categorization devs seem to get wrong with their games usually FPS roles are solid.
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May 30, 2016 16:36
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Best mei ice walls are to get her or team mates to unexpected places. No Mei ever bothers to do this though. On Volskaya you can get bastion, torbjorn and Reinhardt ontop of that bunker infront of point A and nobody expects it. Likewise you can get on top of the roof of the little building outside attack spawn. Good luck finding a Mei that uses her walls effectively though.
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May 30, 2016 16:36
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Ddraig posted:They key to playing Reinhardt is to remember that some people stand in the darkness, afraid to step into the light. Don't be one of them. now I want a reinhardt red speedo costume
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May 30, 2016 16:37
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i had a game where our mei icewalled as our phara ulted two different times and we still won because it was a koth and it only cost us one map the hero categories are like project titan leftovers and i think they should rethink them but they probably wont
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May 30, 2016 16:38
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quote:the hero categories are like project titan leftovers Overwatch is/was Project Titan?
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May 30, 2016 16:40
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May 30, 2016 16:41
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Radical posted:i had a game where our mei icewalled as our phara ulted two different times and we still won because it was a koth and it only cost us one map There's nothing wrong with the hero categories other than arguably that D.Va doesn't play like the other tanks.
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Ddraig posted:Best mei ice walls are to get her or team mates to unexpected places. No Mei ever bothers to do this though. On Volskaya you can get bastion, torbjorn and Reinhardt ontop of that bunker infront of point A and nobody expects it. Likewise you can get on top of the roof of the little building outside attack spawn. I try to get Bastions to follow me all the time but I'm not entirely convinced most bastion players are sentient human beings Radical posted:i had a game where our mei icewalled as our phara ulted two different times and we still won because it was a koth and it only cost us one map There was much spamming of the "sorry sorry sorry" key
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Junkrat is another odd one because he is literally one of the best offense classes and destroys embedded defenses like nobody else.
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