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Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:
Dredge is sorta coming back, so Leyline of the Void is also a target.

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Oldsrocket_27
Apr 28, 2009

DangerDongs posted:

There is a guy at my store who ordered 3 boxes of Eternal Masters before seeing the full spoiler. Poor guy.

If he's dead-set on gambling, he should switch to betting on horse races. At least that way you can get fancy drunk and make an afternoon of it. Plus, you need not have any illusions about the fact that you're gambling.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

Oldsrocket_27 posted:

If he's dead-set on gambling, he should switch to betting on horse races. At least that way you can get fancy drunk and make an afternoon of it. Plus, you need not have any illusions about the fact that you're gambling.
When I want to gamble like an mtg player I play blackjack because splitting tens is like flip-or-rip except there's a chance I get more money out of it.

Johnny Landmine
Aug 2, 2004

PURE FUCKING AINOGEDDON

DangerDongs posted:

There is a guy at my store who ordered 3 boxes of Eternal Masters before seeing the full spoiler. Poor guy.

I mean, holy gently caress, what was he expecting though? Given MMA2, etc. EMA looks a lot better than anyone who's been paying attention would expect it to be.

ShadeofBlue
Mar 17, 2011

Johnny Landmine posted:

I mean, holy gently caress, what was he expecting though? Given MMA2, etc. EMA looks a lot better than anyone who's been paying attention would expect it to be.

Yah, I 100% agree.

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:


I guess Night of Soul's Betrayal rarely sees play, too? Very rarely.

Its used as a 1-of in Jund alot. Stops Souls tokens, good against Affinity. If you can get rid of a Bogle and then drop that before they rebuild they are finished.

Kilo147
Apr 14, 2007

You remind me of the boss
What boss?
The boss with the power
What power?
The power of voodoo
Who-doo?
You do.
Do what?
Remind me of the Boss.

Regarding shufflechat, I use a sleeved card in a different color as cut card, at least until I can get an actual cut card from a local casino. Since I can't riffle with sleeves, I mash instead. Typically I'll go mash, mash, strip cut/box cut, pile, mash, strip/box, pile. With seven shuffles of varying types it almost ensures randomness.

Mouth Ze Dong
Jan 2, 2005

Aint no thing like me, 'cept me.

Kilo147 posted:

Regarding shufflechat, I use a sleeved card in a different color as cut card, at least until I can get an actual cut card from a local casino. Since I can't riffle with sleeves, I mash instead. Typically I'll go mash, mash, strip cut/box cut, pile, mash, strip/box, pile. With seven shuffles of varying types it almost ensures randomness.

Look at this troll-rear end post.

Don't do it. Leave this post alone to die.

Kilo147
Apr 14, 2007

You remind me of the boss
What boss?
The boss with the power
What power?
The power of voodoo
Who-doo?
You do.
Do what?
Remind me of the Boss.

I was told you're supposed to spend a full three minutes shuffling, so I found a way.

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


Kilo147 posted:

I was told you're supposed to spend a full three minutes shuffling, so I found a way.

This post is a delight.

So the rule USED TO be that you got 3 minutes to sideboard and shuffle, not that you had to take all 3 minutes. However they changed that rule because people kept thinking you could take the full 3 minutes to shuffle if, for example you were up 1/0 and needed to Jim Davis someone. So now you just have to do it in a reasonable time.

Kilo147
Apr 14, 2007

You remind me of the boss
What boss?
The boss with the power
What power?
The power of voodoo
Who-doo?
You do.
Do what?
Remind me of the Boss.

suicidesteve posted:

This post is a delight.

So the rule USED TO be that you got 3 minutes to sideboard and shuffle, not that you had to take all 3 minutes. However they changed that rule because people kept thinking you could take the full 3 minutes to shuffle if, for example you were up 1/0 and needed to Jim Davis someone. So now you just have to do it in a reasonable time.

Huh. That changes a hell of a lot. Quick loving mashes it is.

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde
Worship also sees some modern sideboard play.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

First I pile shuffle, then I riffle shuffle until the deck is well and truly randomized before presenting it to my opponent to cut. Finally I put the Simian Spirit Guide, Amulet of Vigor, Golgari Rot Farm, Summer Bloom and Primeval Titan that I palmed earlier on top of the deck.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

stinkles1112 posted:

Is Nature's Claim a better card than Natural State in modern?

Yes. Much better.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
Corner case rules question- if I put a land card under a Hideaway land (Shelldock Isle etc.) and activate it on my opponent's turn, does the land card come into play?

Babylon Astronaut
Apr 19, 2012
Sure. Shelldock ignores timing restrictions. Edit: on second thought, no. There is a rule specifically against playing land on your opponent's turn.

Babylon Astronaut fucked around with this message at 05:37 on May 30, 2016

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer

rabidsquid posted:

It's a tough lesson to learn about the lottery, but maybe he won't spend as much on it in the future.

I kind of get the feeling that Magic is the only thing he can get excited about in life, so he just likes the fact that cards are coming his way.

I also think his income isn't a concern, because he bought 7 boxes of Shadows. I still fill bad for the guy when he opens World Gorger Dragon ( I feel bad for anyone who experiences this).

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.
Do y'all think there's some MTGFinance acolyte who was sitting on forty thousand Nevinyrral's Disks, and when the news came out that Disk was in Eternal Masters, this doofus got angry at Wizards? "God drat it WotC, stop devaluing my investment!"

Sigma-X
Jun 17, 2005

Hellsau posted:

Do y'all think there's some MTGFinance acolyte who was sitting on forty thousand Nevinyrral's Disks, and when the news came out that Disk was in Eternal Masters, this doofus got angry at Wizards? "God drat it WotC, stop devaluing my investment!"

I can only hope

Judd Stackington
Oct 27, 2015
I know it's idiot behaviour but I find a lot of joy in cracking packs. If I have :10bux: hanging around I don't mind overpaying for a selection of cards I don't necessarily want. I'm less than a booster box of packs deep in my MTG career but I enjoyed all of them, a lot.

born on a buy you
Aug 14, 2005

Odd Fullback
Bird Gang
Sack Them All
You buy EMA boxes to put in a closet and sell a year later for $100 more. Or you draft them with friends.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."

Judd Stackington posted:

I know it's idiot behaviour but I find a lot of joy in cracking packs. If I have :10bux: hanging around I don't mind overpaying for a selection of cards I don't necessarily want. I'm less than a booster box of packs deep in my MTG career but I enjoyed all of them, a lot.

After much internal debate I cashed in my GP tickets on SoI packs and cracked them in front of the TV in the hotel room. The stack of commons I left for the cleaners almost had a Westvale Abbey in.

My 18 packs also had Sorin, Arlin and a couple of Always Watching, so not too bad at all.

torsoboy
Sep 9, 2001

lesbian armada overlord
I'm not sure how I'd get the booster box to fit in my hand luggage, so I might have to crack my box to save space.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
You might get away carrying a bit more than you might think. You can just crack them at the check in desk if needed.

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

BizarroAzrael posted:

You might get away carrying a bit more than you might think. You can just crack them at the check in desk if needed.

No dude, gotta get value, run a phantom draft with the TSA agents

Under no circumstances declare that you're holding an Explosive Apparatus tho

torsoboy
Sep 9, 2001

lesbian armada overlord
I could also tape the boosters to my arms and legs. What's in those packs you say? Just bomb rares?

Serperoth
Feb 21, 2013




Do you guys think that flip Jace and/or Narset Transcendent will go up? A friend is selling his collection that includes one of each for 40 euros, and I was thinking of grabbing it, mostly to flip (heh) Jace a few months down the line for profit, but I'm not too familiar with that kind of thing.

My reasoning is that it sees play in Eternal stuff, and it's waning out of Standard, so comparing him to something like Breeding Pool, maybe he'll go up? Not really looking for sick MTG FINANCE GAINZ, but he's getting rid of them anyway, might as well, yknow?

Snacksmaniac
Jan 12, 2008

AceClown posted:

No dude, gotta get value, run a phantom draft with the TSA agents

Under no circumstances declare that you're holding an Explosive Apparatus tho

"This is a limited bomb!"

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


Serperoth posted:

Do you guys think that flip Jace and/or Narset Transcendent will go up? A friend is selling his collection that includes one of each for 40 euros, and I was thinking of grabbing it, mostly to flip (heh) Jace a few months down the line for profit, but I'm not too familiar with that kind of thing.

My reasoning is that it sees play in Eternal stuff, and it's waning out of Standard, so comparing him to something like Breeding Pool, maybe he'll go up? Not really looking for sick MTG FINANCE GAINZ, but he's getting rid of them anyway, might as well, yknow?

Jace is bad in non-standard formats. And he's apparently not all that good in standard either.

the Orb of Zot
Jun 25, 2013

Apport: the Orb of Zot
The orb shrieks as your magic touches it!
Yoink! You pull the item towards yourself.
You see here the Orb of Zot.

suicidesteve posted:

Jace is bad in non-standard formats. And he's apparently not all that good in standard either.

I thought Flip Jace was seeing Modern/Legacy play.

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


the Orb of Zot posted:

I thought Flip Jace was seeing Modern/Legacy play.

Nobody should ever play him in legacy except maybe Reanimator in the board. He could be ok in modern maybe but playing a 2 mana 0/2 that takes at least a turn to do anything and even then doesn't do all that much in the Lightning Bolt format seems pretty bad. I think I've seen one game of vintage where he was good and several dozen where he was a card to pitch to Force at best. And even in that one game he probably would have been better as big Jace or a Snapcaster.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

Entropic posted:

Well what's the point of Dark Ritual with no Hypnotic Spectre?

Swamp, ritual, ritual, spectre, hymn was like the most feelsgood start to a game when I was a kid.

Hail Mr. Satan!
Oct 3, 2009

by zen death robot

suicidesteve posted:

Jim Davis someone.

God dammit first Garfield, now slow shuffling

Pussy Snorkel
Sep 12, 2008

With the Pussy Snorkel, any man can be a dive master.

suicidesteve posted:

Jace is bad in non-standard formats. And he's apparently not all that good in standard either.

Jace VP is the vintage powerhouse.

sit on my Facebook
Jun 20, 2007

ASS GAS OR GRASS
No One Rides for FREE
In the Trumplord Holy Land

suicidesteve posted:

Jace is bad in non-standard formats. And he's apparently not all that good in standard either.

He's good in standard but he's not $90 good and he's probably not $35 good either. I'd expect his price to go nowhere but down from here considering he's got like 4 months left in the format. After that he won't be more than maaaybe $15.

TheMaestroso
Nov 4, 2014

I must know your secrets.

stinkles1112 posted:

He's good in standard but he's not $90 good and he's probably not $35 good either. I'd expect his price to go nowhere but down from here considering he's got like 4 months left in the format. After that he won't be more than maaaybe $15.

His place in 20% of the vintage metagame seems to me to suggest he'll stay well above $15.

PleasantDirge
Sep 7, 2009
ASK ME ABOUT HOW NOT BEING A FUCKING ASSHOLE ON THE ROAD IS JUST LIKE BEING A JEW AT A NAZI GATHERING BECAUSE I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO NOT BE A FUCKING ASSHOLE AND WHEN PEOPLE TREAT ME LIKE I'M A FUCKING ASSHOLE THAT IS JUST LIKE GENOCIDE

AceClown posted:

No dude, gotta get value, run a phantom draft with the TSA agents

Under no circumstances declare that you're holding an Explosive Apparatus tho

PSA from you're fav dumbass wizard: BE CAREFUL FLYING WITH MAGIC CARDS!

Last time I flew back to D.C for the wifeys birthday I brought my trade binder and a few decks to play some games at my old store with friends I had not seen in a few years. I just threw them in my usual FNM backpack because play mat/binder/decks still leaves me room for toothbrush, contact lens crap etc and a few pairs of socks/boxers BC gently caress paying extra for more bags.

Cut to the TSA line, St. Louis airport. The lady goes through with her carry on no worries, I get x rayed as well and 10/10 no hidden shoe bombs can fly. Then they put my backpack through the machine. You know what a large stack of 3x3 cardboard looks like in a xray? Well it looks like 9 perfect stacks/bindles of cocaine slash heroin, especially when your fat rear end left a metal spoon that you used to eat your yogurt before round 1 in the bag at the bottom.

After some splainin' and careful/slow removal of my cards to show that I'm not in fact the most clueless recreational pharmacist ever born they swabbed my rear end down and let the dog chew on me I got to board my flight but it was no fun AND the TSA agents did NOT want to learn how to play. Asking them to draft is a waste of time I'm p sure.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

TheMaestroso posted:

His place in 20% of the vintage metagame seems to me to suggest he'll stay well above $15.

Highly-available cards that are only used by the twenty people that actually play Vintage on the reg don't tend to maintain their price.

MiddleEastBeast
Jan 19, 2003

Forum Bully
It's cool that Madness didn't end up being good/important enough to counteract the loss of fetches (the real only reason he was good, it turns out), and now Jace sucks.

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Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
I was looking forward to a madness deck, personally (w/ or w/o Jace).

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