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Oberleutnant posted:No, but I'll assume they're like 10p a packet and you get five trillion of them? Texture is a bit different though. e: 1935 - People get free crisps at George V's silver jubilee. 
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:What happened to IDS, anyway? I haven't seen hide nor hair of the guy since he flounced off in a strop. He could be dead for all I know. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gDL8xu2NMg
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May 30, 2016 18:54
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Oberleutnant posted:there are no good monster munch. they're all poo poo and you only get about three of them in a packet. Guavanaut posted:Have you tried Monster Claws? Oh my God I was going to post about this this week, literally bought two packs just now. Lidl owns. Oberleutnant posted:No, but I'll assume they're like 10p a packet and you get five trillion of them? 99p for a ten-pack - 6 onion, 2 beef, 2 spicy, 7-8 claws per pack the pickled onion actually tastes like pickled onion and not just the pickling sauce like with monster munch these days
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May 30, 2016 19:28
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Small Monster Munch bags are a waste of time but the big 75p ones are packed full of deliciousness so
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May 30, 2016 19:43
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Just had an urgent phone call from my grandmother. She's apparently got very bad news about my sister. She was seen 'kissing a half-cast boy at a bus stop' Yes, that's Malcolm. He's a very nice boy. Glad to see racism is still very much alive and well in boomers 
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May 30, 2016 22:04
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Ddraig posted:Just had an urgent phone call from my grandmother. She's apparently got very bad news about my sister. She was seen 'kissing a half-cast boy at a bus stop' watch her change her tune if your sister marries him
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May 30, 2016 22:18
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Tesseraction posted:watch her change her tune if your sister marries him You're being very optimistic.
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May 30, 2016 22:46
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Anyone got a book recommendation on the history of the E.U. including the sort of antecedents that led to its creation? I got chatting to a right arse last night and in between him flat denying I everything I said while grinning like a bad Joker impersonator and the alcohol it did occur to me that I need to brush up on my specifics. Something that does a good analysis tied into a UK perspective is what I'm thinking of.
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May 30, 2016 22:48
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Ddraig posted:Just had an urgent phone call from my grandmother. She's apparently got very bad news about my sister. She was seen 'kissing a half-cast boy at a bus stop' The same generation that has the "wisdom" to vote Tory and is anti-EU. And benefited from massive state spending which is now an unaffordable luxury. 
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May 30, 2016 22:59
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Oberleutnant posted:there are no good monster munch. they're all poo poo and you only get about three of them in a packet. This is treason, Johnny.
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May 30, 2016 23:01
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Miftan posted:You're being very optimistic. My granddad told me in the last years of his life that he'd never believed the negro could be civilised until my father asked him for my mum's hand in marriage (as is Catholic tradition) and he realised that they were capable of following the Bible. He said that my dad went from his least favourite to the all-time favourite of his children-in-law.
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May 30, 2016 23:02
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Fun fact: while handing out the invites to their wedding, one of my aunts refused point-blank to accept my mum marrying a non-white and thus would not go under any circumstances. Thanks to that the rest of my family were so horrified with the overt racism that they cancelled their plans to be 'ill' on the day or 'busy' and all of them were there sans that aunt. Funny how peoples' racism can change in the face of more overt racism.
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May 30, 2016 23:04
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Tesseraction posted:My granddad told me in the last years of his life that he'd never believed the negro could be civilised until my father asked him for my mum's hand in marriage (as is Catholic tradition) and he realised that they were capable of following the Bible. I realise that it isn't Catholic but he does... know about Ethiopia, right?
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May 30, 2016 23:08
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OwlFancier posted:I realise that it isn't Catholic but he does... know about Ethiopia, right? Schools in the 1930s did not feel like teaching kids there were Christians in our colonies because that would suggest they deserved dignity. He was more surprised that a savage was capable of following the spirit of the rules instead of just assuming that turning up to church once a week would cover it.
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May 30, 2016 23:12
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Am I the only person whose grandparents weren't racist???
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May 30, 2016 23:15
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My grandma, bless her soul, was thrilled that Obama was going to kick the poo poo out of the Republicans, and thought it was great that the U.S. would have a black president. Then she said "mind you, I don't agree with mixing". Sigh.
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May 30, 2016 23:18
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Am I the only person whose grandparents weren't racist??? Well, on the other side of the family they weren't. Kinda hard to be racist when you're racially discriminated against, mind.
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May 30, 2016 23:25
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One of my grandmothers died last year and I never heard a racist word leave her mouth. The one that's still alive though has always been bad. She'll jump through hoops to keep her racism going. We once went for a big family meal at an Indian restaurant and naturally all the servers were incredibly polite, accommodating, friendly, essentially did their jobs. As we left she goes "I like the Indians, they're a very nice bunch aren't they? Not like the Pakis"
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May 30, 2016 23:30
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Tesseraction posted:Well, on the other side of the family they weren't. Kinda hard to be racist when you're racially discriminated against, mind. Whether that's racism or not would vary depending on whether you only consider it a systemic thing, but the language used is certainly eyebrow raising. e: Sudden Javelin posted:"I like the Indians, they're a very nice bunch aren't they? Not like the Pakis" Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 23:33 on May 30, 2016 |
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May 30, 2016 23:31
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My gran was pretty racist but mostly in a "races exist and you must think about people as representatives of their race" kind of way.
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May 30, 2016 23:33
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Oh I'm aware that it's not impossible to be racist, but my grandparents grew up as outsiders of mainland India and later as citizens of Tanganyika. They never knew where to belong and let that colour their idea of how to consider people from outside their historical 'in-group.' My grandpa apparently cooked the books to let poor black families get mortgages when the white owners of the bank would otherwise reject them.
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May 30, 2016 23:36
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I think there are quite a lot of old folk who aren't horribly racist in that they don't particularly dislike or fear people of other races, but still find it just a little surprising when they encounter one. I notice it in people who don't say anything awful about other races, but will for instance always still refer to their "black doctor" rather than just "a doctor".
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May 30, 2016 23:39
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Tesseraction posted:99p for a ten-pack - 6 onion, 2 beef, 2 spicy, 7-8 claws per pack NEVER EVER buy multipacks imo. loving rip off.
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May 30, 2016 23:52
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happyhippy posted:NEVER EVER buy multipacks imo. Why?
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May 30, 2016 23:59
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Lord of the Llamas posted:The same generation that has the "wisdom" to vote Tory and is anti-EU. It's nowhere near as clear-cut as that - less than half of OAPs voted Tory in 2015 65+ was the only demographic the Tories dominated (interestingly in an exact reversal of the 18-24 demo) and the Tories had a worryingly good-showing with under-30s, the generation they've most hosed over. People are lovely no matter what the age group. (A cynic would point out that 65+ Tory voters were at least voting in their own best interests, the 27% of people aged 18-24 have absolutely no excuse)
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goddamnedtwisto posted:It's nowhere near as clear-cut as that - less than half of OAPs voted Tory in 2015 It was only less than half because 17% voted UKIP......
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May 31, 2016 00:22
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Tesseraction posted:Well, on the other side of the family they weren't. Kinda hard to be racist when you're racially discriminated against, mind. You'd think so, but I've got grandparents who literally will not acknowledge my or my siblings existence, and completely disowned their son because he married a Romani. Indian families are loving hardcore racists with stuff like that. Even when my dad was dying of cancer they refused to acknowledge him.
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May 31, 2016 00:27
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Less than half is still well in excess of the national average also.
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May 31, 2016 00:28
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What is the word for the reverse of Anti-intellectualism, where I hate stupid people?goddamnedtwisto posted:It's nowhere near as clear-cut as that - less than half of OAPs voted Tory in 2015 A cynic would point out that the main reason is because of people in the countryside are loving retarded.
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Extreme0 posted:What is the word for the reverse of Anti-intellectualism, where I hate stupid people? In this case, Irony.
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May 31, 2016 01:09
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Why? I could have sworn I wrote why when I posted. Depends on the crisp and manufacturer but most skimp on the crisps inside each bag. Skips and Monster Munch are the worst offenders, 5-6 in each multipack bag. So much loving plastic waste too.
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May 31, 2016 02:01
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OwlFancier posted:In this case, Irony. Nice. My grandparents on my mum's side were homophobic and quite racist, and then my mum came out as a lesbian. For a while they wouldn't speak to her but after a year or two my mum's long term partner (now wife) was a much loved part of the family, and when my cousin came out a few years ago my grandad called my mum and said quite excitedly 'Have you heard? We've got another one!' Sadly my grandad's not with us any more, but whenever my nana says something a bit racially out of line (she's definitely not as bad as she used to be), my mum counters with 'how would you feel if somebody called me a dyke or a human being?' 'Well I'd be furious and give them what for' etc. etc. Strange how attitudes can change. Also strange how sometimes they don't. How do people feel about the 'well it was just how it was, too old to change' argument (used in relation to the elderly not by them). I find it stupid and patronising and don't think prejudiced behaviour should ever be excused, but it seems to be a popular one with a lot of people I've spoken to.
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I would say you may have more luck waiting for the elderly to die than trying to change those deeply set in their ways. They may be capable of changing but many are probably very distinterested in doing so. "I'm old and don't give a gently caress" is a pretty common sentiment I find.
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May 31, 2016 02:48
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Jakabite posted:How do people feel about the 'well it was just how it was, too old to change' argument (used in relation to the elderly not by them). I find it stupid and patronising and don't think prejudiced behaviour should ever be excused, but it seems to be a popular one with a lot of people I've spoken to. It's clearly self-reinforcing regardless, changing long held beliefs at any point in your life is hard and who's going to be bothered trying if they know they're not expected to? Even then it's not like they really need to change, they could just not voice their lovely opinions and nobody would know.
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May 31, 2016 06:59
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I can't wait until we're old and intolerant
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May 31, 2016 08:19
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What do you think we'll be intolerant about? I think about hypothetical future moralities a lot. "Back in my day we ate meat whenever we wanted, we could have kids whenever we wanted, and we locked up pedophiles instead of celebrating Pedo Pride every year"
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My best guess: society's understanding of gender is about to change in a huge way, there's an entire generation growing up which has a much wider understanding of what gender means and has acknowledged that gender is mostly a social construct. We're going to loving HATE their kids.
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May 31, 2016 08:41
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Boing posted:What do you think we'll be intolerant about? It's a very interesting question. Will some thing like eating meat be seen as barbaric if they manage too produce a nice tasting artificial version? That would seem possible. Socially, who knows, identity politics could go full circle (like that nambla thing?) I always think that kids will laugh at all of our generation who are covered in tattoos on our disgusting saggy skin and won't go near them.
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May 31, 2016 08:42
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Well most likely future generations will see as animal-genociding barbarians.
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UnquietDream posted:Anyone got a book recommendation on the history of the E.U. including the sort of antecedents that led to its creation? I got chatting to a right arse last night and in between him flat denying I everything I said while grinning like a bad Joker impersonator and the alcohol it did occur to me that I need to brush up on my specifics. Something that does a good analysis tied into a UK perspective is what I'm thinking of. John McCormick's 'Why Europe Matters' and the one he's just published 'Why Europe Matters for Britain' are great as general introductions to the EU and the history/theories/justifications for its existence (I use them as supplementary readings for students). The author is quite pro EU, but it's factually accurate. Another one that may be of interest is 'The EU: An Obituary' by John Gillingham, which presents a more pessimistic view of the EU's problems and why it's failing given its lofty aims.
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