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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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ImpAtom posted:Nah, the "Krillin throws the disc, it breaks on Cell" is only from the anime. In the manga he just tries to punch Cell. I don't remember the disc even happening and was just talking about him punching cell. I never mentioned the destructo disc
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May 30, 2016 21:21
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Rutibex posted:What exactly is the deal with Super Saiyan Gohan anyway? Like, he was fighting Super Buu in his base form after the Elder Kai "unlocked his power". If base form Gohan is stronger than Super Buu, is he now 50X stronger than he was in the Buu saga, seeing as he can transform into a Super Saiyan? Best guess it probably wore off. That or there is the fan joke that it transferred to Pan.
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May 30, 2016 21:28
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Whoever said that DBZ runs off of Lamarckian genetics was right.
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May 30, 2016 21:31
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Manatee Cannon posted:I don't remember the disc even happening and was just talking about him punching cell. I never mentioned the destructo disc I assumed you were talking about him throwing the Destructo Disk since that's also a pretty big no-sell. My bad
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May 30, 2016 21:32
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Rutibex posted:What exactly is the deal with Super Saiyan Gohan anyway? Like, he was fighting Super Buu in his base form after the Elder Kai "unlocked his power". If base form Gohan is stronger than Super Buu, is he now 50X stronger than he was in the Buu saga, seeing as he can transform into a Super Saiyan? Elder Kai's power boost allegedly pushed him to his max potential, meaning going Super Saiyan wouldn't have done anything except burn energy since he was already at his ceiling. It could even be theorized that he was already at the line between Mortal and God while he was fighting Super Buu and that only God Ki could have surpassed his power at that time. But by the time of Freeza's resurrection that power boost had worn off and his lack of training made even Super Saiyan useless since 50X nothing is still nothing. Which begs the question as to just how powerful Vegetto is in comparison now. He was the strongest character in the existence according Toriyama himself. But he didn't have God Ki which means, depending on how anal about canon you want to get, that Vegetto surpassed Gods in power using regular ki.
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May 30, 2016 21:38
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Esroc posted:Elder Kai's power boost allegedly pushed him to his max potential, meaning going Super Saiyan wouldn't have done anything except burn energy since he was already at his ceiling. It could even be theorized that he was already at the line between Mortal and God while he was fighting Super Buu and that only God Ki could have surpassed his power at that time. But by the time of Freeza's resurrection that power boost had worn off and his lack of training made even Super Saiyan useless since 50X nothing is still nothing. To be fair Freeza can surpass God Ki with regular Ki, so that's not too surprising.
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May 30, 2016 21:43
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I'm pretty sure even Videl could beat up King Yemma at this point. Just being a god isn't that impressive, it depends on your divine rank.
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May 30, 2016 21:49
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All this really makes me lament wasting time arguing about it when I was 12.
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May 30, 2016 22:17
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RBX posted:All this really makes me lament wasting time arguing about it when I was 12. I wonder how many brilliant scientists and miracle cures we've lost to Dragonball power level and related discussions
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May 30, 2016 22:22
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ImpAtom posted:That isn't true at all. Basically, Sorbet off-guarded Goku that fight.
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May 30, 2016 22:29
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Josuke Higashikata posted:I wonder how many brilliant scientists and miracle cures we've lost to Dragonball power level and related discussions Not many, people who spend this much time talking about anime power levels are usually not the best and the brightest. They usually mistake knowing pointless poo poo with being smart.
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May 30, 2016 22:49
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Fluffdaddy posted:Not many, people who spend this much time talking about anime power levels are usually not the best and the brightest. They usually mistake knowing pointless poo poo with being smart. When the aliens invade and kill everyone who doesn't know the hierarchy of Buu forms I will get the last laugh.
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May 30, 2016 22:52
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I would have gotten that Masters in Physics but I was too busy calculating Goku's power level in the Bio-Broly movie in relation to the Buu Saga *dies alone*
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May 30, 2016 22:53
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Fluffdaddy posted:Not many, people who spend this much time talking about anime power levels are usually not the best and the brightest. They usually mistake knowing pointless poo poo with being smart. I think everyone telling them nerds are smart reinforced the belief.
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May 30, 2016 22:56
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Covok posted:I think everyone telling them nerds are smart reinforced the belief. The kind of people who can tell you all about the Extended Universe canon of Star Wars but couldn't pass College Algebra because the "teacher was too tough".
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May 30, 2016 23:02
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The important thing to know about power levels is that they don't matter and also the show is better when it is about being funny instead of being about HIGH POWER.
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May 30, 2016 23:24
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Raxivace posted:Whoever said that DBZ runs off of Lamarckian genetics was right. Rigged Death Trap posted:what is this lamarckian bullshit.
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May 31, 2016 00:05
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Goku would be ashamed of all of you.
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May 31, 2016 00:10
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Esroc posted:Goku would be ashamed of all of you. I know I sure am. None of these new forms or moves matter in the long run. Nobody is going to get THAT much stronger and heres why: Super is all filler in setup for the series most memorable antagonist, General Rilldo. 
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May 31, 2016 00:23
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JohnnyCocksville posted:I know I sure am. None of these new forms or moves matter in the long run. Nobody is going to get THAT much stronger and heres why: Super is all filler in setup for the series most memorable antagonist, General Rilldo. Not to defend GT, but wasn't Buu physically not that strong, but it more of his insane regeneration and limitless energy? Still a dumb statement by Goku through.
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May 31, 2016 00:41
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I dunno, we should rehash 15 more pages of dumb power level chat because that is fun for everyone to read.
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May 31, 2016 00:47
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Rirse posted:Not to defend GT, but wasn't Buu physically not that strong, but it more of his insane regeneration and limitless energy? Still a dumb statement by Goku through. Regular Fat Buu isn't anything special beyond the fact that he's drat near unkillable. Kid Buu might be stronger than him maybe, but mostly it's that he's more ferocious and actively hateful, while Fat Buu is playful and has a kindness to him. Keep in mind that a SSJ 2 Vegeta clowned Buu and nearly killed him with a suicide move. SSJ3 Goku, when he was dead and the form didn't drain all of his life away, was pretty much superior to him. After that the escalation is obvious. Buuhan is stronger than Buutanks is stronger than Buucilo is stronger than Super Buu is stronger than Evil Buu is stronger than Fat Buu.
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May 31, 2016 00:55
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wouldn't piccolo drop his power like the old fat supreme kai did to kid buu
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May 31, 2016 00:57
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Could Cell beat Buu?
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May 31, 2016 00:57
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wasn't dabura supposed to be as strong as perfect cell because buu beat him p easily, also gohan
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May 31, 2016 00:58
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Yeah but Cell has regeneration and Dabura doesn't Also Dabura could've won by spitting on buu
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May 31, 2016 01:01
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Aurora posted:Yeah but Cell has regeneration and Dabura doesn't Fat Buu maybe. Because he's dumb. But the other Buu's would've been cognizant enough to make a splooge clone before the stone took over.
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May 31, 2016 01:16
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Aurora posted:Yeah but Cell has regeneration and Dabura doesn't Nah, because Buu can survive turning to gas. Buu'd probably turn to stone, the stone would crack, and fat buu would pour out as smoke then regenerate.
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May 31, 2016 01:24
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Aurora posted:Yeah but Cell has regeneration and Dabura doesn't Cell couldn't regenerate from being turned into a toffee.
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May 31, 2016 01:31
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The question I always have is, was Dabura as powerful as normal Perfect Cell, or the SSJ2-style Cell that showed up after he exploded himself Because if it's just normal Perfect Cell, then yeah, Buu would wreck his poo poo. Super Perfect Cell is a bit more dodgy- he'd be in Majin Vegeta's power scale at that point and could suicide attack Buu while surviving himself and growing stronger from it. In theory, Cell could grow more powerful the longer he fights Buu, assuming Buu doesn't either turn him into candy or destroy the one nucleolus that he needs to reform. I'm also entirely of the mind that Gohan wasn't just a SSJ 2 when he murdered the gently caress out of Cell and the Cell Jrs. I always figured he just tapped into his true power that Old Kai unlocked for him.
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May 31, 2016 01:40
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Champa hurt his shin when he bumped it against that coffee table at some point during the tournament. Coffee table can easily beat Raditz and destroy planets
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May 31, 2016 01:40
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Burkion posted:The question I always have is, was Dabura as powerful as normal Perfect Cell, or the SSJ2-style Cell that showed up after he exploded himself The real kicker is that since Cell had Freeza DNA, and a lot of it considering his appearance, he must have also had Freeza's freakish power increasing ability. Combined with Zenkai and Super Saiyan transformations it stands to reason that Cell had the potential to become the most powerful being in existence. A few months of training, a couple suicide attacks and regeneration's, and Super Saiyan 3 would have made him Beerus level in a scary short amount of time.
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May 31, 2016 02:01
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Burkion posted:Because if it's just normal Perfect Cell, then yeah, Buu would wreck his poo poo. Super Perfect Cell is a bit more dodgy- he'd be in Majin Vegeta's power scale at that point and could suicide attack Buu while surviving himself and growing stronger from it. In theory, Cell could grow more powerful the longer he fights Buu, assuming Buu doesn't either turn him into candy or destroy the one nucleolus that he needs to reform. Neither has the power to destroy the other beyond their power to regenerate. It would come down to a battle of absorption! I think Buu can absorb Cell, but if Cell tried to absorb Buu he would just get consumed from the inside. Winner: Golden Majin Super Sayjin 2 Bell Rutibex fucked around with this message at 02:11 on May 31, 2016 |
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May 31, 2016 02:09
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Esroc posted:The real kicker is that since Cell had Freeza DNA, and a lot of it considering his appearance, he must have also had Freeza's freakish power increasing ability. Combined with Zenkai and Super Saiyan transformations it stands to reason that Cell had the potential to become the most powerful being in existence. A few months of training, a couple suicide attacks and regeneration's, and Super Saiyan 3 would have made him Beerus level in a scary short amount of time. This realization is probably the single scariest thing the current Dragon Ball media brought to me. The literal only reason Cell didn't become an ungodly monster is because his Saiyan cells pushed him into fighting the Z-Warriors nearly immediately upon reaching Perfection. If he had instead listened to the Goku side of his body and decided to train, then Freeza's potential would've triggered, and we'd be seeing a very, VERY different end to the Cell Saga. Add to that that even if the Z-Warriors managed to beat that, Cell would just regenerate and Zenkai... Basically the only reason Cell lost was because he honestly had no idea just how true his Perfection was. He had no idea just how powerful his regeneration was (something he outright points out post-revival), and he had no idea of the limitless potential inside his body.
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May 31, 2016 03:14
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cell is gonna come back and get chumped by gohan again probably
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May 31, 2016 03:20
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Dragonball Z's Majin Buu saga has this scene: 18 remarks on how annoying Trunks and Goten trying to fuse is. She "dreamt about a fusion between Puar and the Ox King". And then she was trying to help Krillin cheat in poker against Roshi but he wasn't understanding her signals. Iunno if that's filler or not but it's adorable and kinda prescient considering this game coming out.
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May 31, 2016 03:33
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Lupus Rufus posted:Dragonball Z's Majin Buu saga has this scene: 18 remarks on how annoying Trunks and Goten trying to fuse is. She "dreamt about a fusion between Puar and the Ox King". it's filler and good
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May 31, 2016 04:45
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unlike the bad filler that is half of the posts in this thread
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May 31, 2016 04:46
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Ruggington posted:it's filler and good yes that was the point i was trying to make, that DBZ filler is very very good.
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May 31, 2016 05:25
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Blaze Dragon posted:This realization is probably the single scariest thing the current Dragon Ball media brought to me. The literal only reason Cell didn't become an ungodly monster is because his Saiyan cells pushed him into fighting the Z-Warriors nearly immediately upon reaching Perfection. If he had instead listened to the Goku side of his body and decided to train, then Freeza's potential would've triggered, and we'd be seeing a very, VERY different end to the Cell Saga. Add to that that even if the Z-Warriors managed to beat that, Cell would just regenerate and Zenkai... Though I should point out that him surviving his self destruction was pure luck. Had his core been not just managed to survive the explosion he would have died then and there. The other stuff does apply however.
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