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Schroeder91
Jul 5, 2007

YF19pilot posted:

Any story to go along with this?

It was on the front page of Reddit but I can't find it now :confused:

I believe the top comment said the car was driving like an rear end and weaving around the bikes or something like that and they rode up asking wtf and he just plows over them. He got arrested outside a fire station changing his tire though.

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nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

Citizens of the Isle of Mann have to be used to foreigners jerking off on the side of the road for 2 weeks of the year.

Nitrox posted:


I've never heard those details, just what was posted by the riders at the time of the incident. There was a lot of information coming from multiple sources as well, some stories didn't add up at all. Everyone should have behaved differently, for sure. But still, it appears that riders were the aggressors.

Yeah that's all on the wiki. The riders weren't innocent by any means but the driver put himself in the poo poo more than the video shows and it was just silly. No reason to put your car in the middle of a bike rally cause they 'annoy' you.

nsaP fucked around with this message at 07:40 on May 31, 2016

eggyolk
Nov 8, 2007


Sagebrush posted:


That's because lane splitting is illegal in New York you big dumbass. The drivers aren't looking for you, which makes it extra dangerous, and startled drivers are pissed off drivers.

I spent the first three weeks sitting in traffic like a good boy getting honked at and harassed by traffic who didn't understand why I wasn't splitting. In some neighborhoods (Bed-Stuy) if I wait to turn on red cars will aggressively undercut me and run the red for me. It's a jungle out here man. The more polite you are the more likely you'll disrupt the flow.Trucks and vans assume you'll go before they brake.

Pinny
Sep 8, 2006

nsaP posted:

Citizens of the Isle of Mann have to be used to foreigners jerking off on the side of the road for 2 weeks of the year.

Along with the idiots getting caught doing 165 in a 60, or double the limits.

I'm starting to lose all interest in the TT these days, purely because the amount of fuckwittery on the roads for the full 2 week period outweighs everything else :(

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

nsaP posted:

Citizens of the Isle of Mann have to be used to foreigners jerking off on the side of the road for 2 weeks of the year.

I don't think they mind too much what with the whole thing contributing something silly like 10% to the place's GDP, because sheep farming and keeping tax exiles happy doesn't really pay that much. ISTR that the speeding fines (£20 per mph over the limit, no leaving the Island until you pay) on Mad Sunday pretty much pay the entire IoM police budget for the year.

Pinny
Sep 8, 2006
The TT and Classic TT/ManxGP only generated £28m for the Isle of Man's economy in 2015. So more like ~1% of our GDP. Compared to the 37% that financial services provides. So yes, keeping 'tax exiles' happy kinda outweighs 4 weeks of motorcycle races.

I'm not sure how bad the fines are these days, but the police like to say they're coming down harder on people. If you get caught, and don't get let off with a warning and a "calm down", you're almost guarantee'd to be in court the next morning, whether its Mad Sunday or not. There's a reciprocal agreement for UK licenses too, so if you end up getting banned over here, your banned back home. I'm not sure if any other countries have that agreement though. Judging by the amount of foreign bikes that ride like dongs, I'd assume not.

I haven't been out for any of the practice's yet, or up to the paddocks. If i do I'll try getting some pics of that RC213v

Just noticed this too, if you can't get the TT TV shows where you live: https://shop.iomtt.com/tv

Pinny fucked around with this message at 11:43 on May 31, 2016

hot sauce
Jan 13, 2005

Grimey Drawer

HotCanadianChick posted:

The moment those riders decided to begin flagrantly breaking traffic laws en-masse on public roads, all the subsequent consequences that followed are on them.

If you see a group like that and don't back off, it's just as much your fault. They are annoying but just let them pass or hold up traffic for a few minutes.

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Pinny posted:

I haven't been out for any of the practice's yet, or up to the paddocks. If i do I'll try getting some pics of that RC213v

Yes, please! :)

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe

Pinny posted:

I haven't been out for any of the practice's yet, or up to the paddocks. If i do I'll try getting some pics of that RC213v

Yes, please! :)

https://shop.iomtt.com/tv posted:

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Well, balls.

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

HotCanadianChick posted:

The moment those riders decided to begin flagrantly breaking traffic laws en-masse on public roads, all the subsequent consequences that followed are on them.
This is my stance as well. If you're unlawfully inconveniencing other people and get hostile whenever they try to get around you, you're the instigator here. I have no obligation to put up with someone else breaking the law.

BlackLaser
Dec 2, 2005

YF19pilot posted:

Any story to go along with this?



http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-tampa/watch-florida-highway-patrol-investigating-wild-hit-and-run-incident-in-tampa

It was about 10 minutes from my house. I usually come right through there on the way home after riding more rural roads.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
Of course it's Florida.

hot sauce
Jan 13, 2005

Grimey Drawer

Fifty Three posted:

This is my stance as well. If you're unlawfully inconveniencing other people and get hostile whenever they try to get around you, you're the instigator here. I have no obligation to put up with someone else breaking the law.

If there is a riot between you and your destination, you have no obligation to put up with it either, but it's a good idea to wait it out or chose another route.

builds character
Jan 16, 2008

Keep at it.
If you like hard enduro, erzberg was this weekend.
http://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1KNHBD11W1W11/red-bull-hare-scramble
Graham Jarvis should be knighted.

Related, the last race of superenduro in spain was ridiculously good.
http://www.redbull.tv/video/AP-1MSYM8Y751W11/view/AP-1MC4UTEQ91W11/spain

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

Fifty Three posted:

This is my stance as well. If you're unlawfully inconveniencing other people and get hostile whenever they try to get around you, you're the instigator here. I have no obligation to put up with someone else breaking the law.

The car was hostile first, running road blocks and chucking fruit and water bottles at the riders.

Shadowlz
Oct 3, 2011

Oh it's gonna happen one way or the other, pal.



nsaP posted:

The car was hostile first, running road blocks and chucking fruit and water bottles at the riders.

I would say the bikers speeding through red lights and hitting cars makes them hostile first. So did you get your bike back from the NYPD?

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

hot sauce posted:

If there is a riot between you and your destination, you have no obligation to put up with it either, but it's a good idea to wait it out or chose another route.
A good idea, sure. Aside from throwing stuff at the riders (which was indefensibly dumb), they didn't do anything wrong by trying to go around and to say otherwise would be victim-blaming.

nsaP posted:

The car was hostile first, running road blocks and chucking fruit and water bottles at the riders.
Running a "road block" set up by morons breaking the law and holding up traffic for their own entertainment is not being hostile, sorry. Throwing fruit and a water bottle is.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Fifty Three posted:

A good idea, sure. Aside from throwing stuff at the riders (which was indefensibly dumb), they didn't do anything wrong by trying to go around and to say otherwise would be victim-blaming.

"Victim blaming" is such a weasely phrase - it gets thrown around any time there's an incident where one party is attempting to claim a moral high ground, and it debases actual victims.
If two people involved in mutual aggression or antagonism get in a fight, neither is the victim. The victim could be a bystander, or 3rd party, but not the combatants. "Well he started it" doesn't make you a victim.

hot sauce
Jan 13, 2005

Grimey Drawer

Fifty Three posted:

A good idea, sure. Aside from throwing stuff at the riders (which was indefensibly dumb), they didn't do anything wrong by trying to go around and to say otherwise would be victim-blaming.

I know, I am blaming the victim. It is partially their fault for trying to go around a large group of idiots. They should have waited or used another road if possible.

Also, this is like the 8th time nsaP has tricked the forum into discussing this again lol

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?
I mean I'm not saying the bikes were right by any means, just that the driver was made out to be an angel caught up in a violent hoard of riders when he was just as culpable. People do dumb stuff on the road all the time and for non-vigilantes it's usually a sign to give them space, not play road cop. You put your car in a group of riders like that and you deserve what you get. Personally if I was rolling in a group like that I would interpret a car coming into the group as hostile to me.

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

Linedance posted:

"Victim blaming" is such a weasely phrase - it gets thrown around any time there's an incident where one party is attempting to claim a moral high ground, and it debases actual victims.
If two people involved in mutual aggression or antagonism get in a fight, neither is the victim. The victim could be a bystander, or 3rd party, but not the combatants. "Well he started it" doesn't make you a victim.
Alright, fair enough. My point is that I still feel trying to get around illegal roadblocks isn't something someone should be blamed for. "Well, you should know better" is horseshit that lends credibility to a gang where none is due.

In this case I'd agree because the driver's wife threw things, but if I'm hypothetically blocked from going somewhere and try to go around, and the blocker starts a fight about it, I'm still the victim and they're still the thugs that decided I couldn't do a thing because they wanted to play in the street.

nsaP posted:

You put your car in a group of riders like that and you deserve what you get. Personally if I was rolling in a group like that I would interpret a car coming into the group as hostile to me.
See, this. Things like this. You are why otherwise normal people hate motorcyclists and see them as thugs. Nice job.

Fifty Three fucked around with this message at 18:41 on May 31, 2016

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
jokes on you i am a thug, loving nerd

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
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I could tell from your avatar.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
i can't believe someone stole my mailbox

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000
I think it's debatable how much of a victim you can possibly be in any conflict where you were acting first in an antisocial manner with a huge number of other people also acting in an antisocial manner, the way a street gang might. People who are not in your group would be justified in viewing that as a dangerous threat. Biker gangs get into fights with each other and poo poo like that, people know this. Unless they had a police escort for it all, they were deliberately loving with every single other driver/rider on those roads. That's a provocative act. And then if you add in another rear end in a top hat in a car who likes to be provocative, you've got a violent conflict.

hot sauce
Jan 13, 2005

Grimey Drawer
Change it to this mailbox

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
Holy poo poo shut up about the range Rover v. Squidfucks NYC bullshit, everyone in that situation is human garbage, and honestly everyone who lives in or around NYC is also straight trash, including me.

Frosty-
Jan 17, 2004

In war, you kill people in order to change their minds. Remember that; it's fuckin' important.
No matter how stupid a discussion on the Internet is, the very worst, most reprehensible loser, the least-forgivable scumbag in the entire affair is always and without exception the guy who chimes in that everyone else should "shut up."

captainOrbital
Jan 23, 2003

Wrathchild!
💢🧒
Man, shut the hell up frosty

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

nsaP posted:

I mean I'm not saying the bikes were right by any means, just that the driver was made out to be an angel caught up in a violent hoard of riders when he was just as culpable. People do dumb stuff on the road all the time and for non-vigilantes it's usually a sign to give them space, not play road cop. You put your car in a group of riders like that and you deserve what you get. Personally if I was rolling in a group like that I would interpret a car coming into the group as hostile to me.

I.... agree with nsap? :confused:


But really, it is the same simple adage we use on this forum all the time: it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, when the truck hits you, you lose. Same thing happened to Lien. He decided to pick a fight with a large group of dudes, right or wrong he was going to lose.

If his intention was really to keep his family safe he should have avoided conflict in the first place, instead of taking last place in a dick-waving contest.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Seen on imgur

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof
Drink it in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdr50v2DTA

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
Durr, what's a killswitch?

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.
The coolant spill at the end is majestic.

No. 6
Jun 30, 2002

Thought that was oil

FlerpNerpin
Apr 17, 2006


I was hoping everyone in that video would be involved

Schroeder91
Jul 5, 2007

I like the exhaust that rolls away in the beginning.

ADINSX
Sep 9, 2003

Wanna run with my crew huh? Rule cyberspace and crunch numbers like I do?


This is how I assume all used sports bikes have been treated

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012


This is like...the stairway to heaven of bike crash vids. The tease with the back of the suv couldn't have been cgi'd or directed better.

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GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Slavvy posted:

This is like...the stairway to heaven of bike crash vids. The tease with the back of the suv couldn't have been cgi'd or directed better.

It's true. The storyline is fantastic.
Our flawed anti-hero begins his journey with a challenge of 'chuckin yut ughhh bettar n ya'. If only he had heeded the warning of the fates (or his friends). If only he had seen the terrible omen of escaping tailpipe.
Neigh, he was doomed at the onset. Ill prepared and exhumed by hubris, he saddled a wild mare; the steed of a knight with the armor of a squire.
His inability to wrangle the thrashing mare at the crossing should have been tale enough for him to quit.


The 'romeo and juilet'-esque ending is the best. No only does he manage to end his journey, but he takes the lady down with him.


Edit: a picture.

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