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Edmond Dantes posted:Yeah, for all the people complaining about how fast Mei's ult pops, at least you can get out of the way. If you're not playing a tank and Reaper drops from a ledge you're basically dead. that's dumb and it's what leads to a boring game like HOTS where most abilities feel like they do nothing stuff should feel overpowered, it's more fun
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Kashuno posted:Just sayin, you don't see battleborn porn at the top of the porn search results Because Battleborn characters weren't designed to be as blandly attractive and appeal to as many sexual fantasies as possible. Who's your favourite? The gamer girl? The shy Science girl? The Femme Fatale sniper? The short-haired strong girl? What about the sniper ninja man? Or his brother, cyborg ninja sword man. The ragged Cowboy or Veteran soldier? etc etc etc. It's not really any surprise so much porn popped up about Overwatch, with it's merry band of attractive Mary Sues bound together with the thinnest of plot. There are some exceptions of course,. The Australians, aka the Comic relief, Junkrat and Roadhog stand out as an example, even if Junkrat is an incredibly one-dimensional character with literally everything he's talking about being explosives and traps. Zenyatta is neat as well, but as Lady Naga mentioned earlier, he has a serious case of the Blizzard Messiah syndrome. This isn't even about how I think the characters in Battleborn are written better, it's how incredibly cringe worthy and bland the characters in Overwatch are. It's an issue I've been voicing ever since the beta was first announced and we got the first footage. I remember people saying back then saying it was early footage and they were probably going to expand on them, but all they added were some boring interactions between certain characters before a battle where nobody says anything of interest. They added some lore, I guess, but none of it is particularly interesting either, even if its' well made. And even if it was, it really should have been reflected in game.
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May 31, 2016 18:01
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emdash posted:that's dumb and it's what leads to a boring game like HOTS where most abilities feel like they do nothing If everything felt overpowered, it'd be fine. If one thing stands out as being overpowered it just feels cheap.
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May 31, 2016 18:03
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Idk why people seem to be expecting serious character from a game that is just rounds of people killing each other with no plot. I couldn't tell you a word of the plot/lore of any of the characters because who really gives a poo poo if you want plot go play a game designed to actually have a story.
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May 31, 2016 18:03
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WoodrowSkillson posted:which are nothing more than a collection of traits like "boisterous german" and "chipper brit" and "crazy aussie" You only used "chipper" because I used it and now the joke's on you because there's a copyright on my post and you owe me five e-bucks.
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Kashuno posted:Idk why people seem to be expecting serious character from a game that is just rounds of people killing each other with no plot. I couldn't tell you a word of the plot/lore of any of the characters because who really gives a poo poo if you want plot go play a game designed to actually have a story. TF2 has probably the least serious characters in any shooter game released to date, and they are still way more interesting than any of the Overwatch cast. And that is with none of the TF2 characters even having names.
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May 31, 2016 18:04
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Broken Cog posted:TF2 has probably the least serious characters in any shooter game released to date, and they are still way more interesting than any of the Overwatch cast. And that is with none of the TF2 characters even having names. Actually this is not a true statement, sorry
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May 31, 2016 18:06
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With some luck, eventually Blizzard will add more heroes that necessitate a rewrite of hero roles like League of Legends did. Or they will just remove them and replace them with tags like Dota does. Also Tank is an stupid name when Defense exists.
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May 31, 2016 18:08
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Broken Cog posted:TF2 has probably the least serious characters in any shooter game released to date, and they are still way more interesting than any of the Overwatch cast. And that is with none of the TF2 characters even having names. what
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May 31, 2016 18:08
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emdash posted:that's dumb and it's what leads to a boring game like HOTS where most abilities feel like they do nothing I'm fine with strong things , I just find things that instantly decide fights to be boring. I prefer some exchange/back and forth than seeing which widow snipes who first.
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May 31, 2016 18:09
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Broken Cog posted:TF2 has probably the least serious characters in any shooter game released to date, and they are still way more interesting than any of the Overwatch cast. And that is with none of the TF2 characters even having names. When TF2 came out, it had no plot and practically no character development. I think at release, all they had was Meet the Heavy, and Overwatch has already exceeded the amount of characterization we saw in that. Maybe nine years from now, Overwatch characters will be more fleshed out, too.
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May 31, 2016 18:10
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Pakled posted:When TF2 came out, it had no plot and practically no character development. I think at release, all they had was Meet the Heavy, and Overwatch has already exceeded the amount of characterization we saw in that. Maybe nine years from now, Overwatch characters will be more fleshed out, too. the less blizzard does in regards to story, the better.
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May 31, 2016 18:11
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I'd previously thought Zarya's Power Overwhelming achievement might be mathematically impossible but I just hadn't run into a team that was dumb enough to keep feeding the bubbles I guess.
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Broken Cog posted:TF2 has probably the least serious characters in any shooter game released to date, and they are still way more interesting than any of the Overwatch cast. And that is with none of the TF2 characters even having names. sure, only after what, 8 years of those shorts, comics, and other little "lore" tidbits that they've built up? OW has been out for a month.
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May 31, 2016 18:12
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Broken Cog posted:Because Battleborn characters weren't designed to be as blandly attractive and appeal to as many sexual fantasies as possible. Who's your favourite? The gamer girl? The shy Science girl? The Femme Fatale sniper? The short-haired strong girl? What about the sniper ninja man? Or his brother, cyborg ninja sword man. The ragged Cowboy or Veteran soldier? etc etc etc. I like to shoot people in this multiplayer shooter game without any sort of in game story, and base my character choices solely based on what abilities I would currently like to use
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May 31, 2016 18:14
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Some people are just so utterly invested in the idea that Blizzard's writing sucks that they parrot it everytime the subject comes up no matter how applicable or accurate it is. Similarly, it's been amusing to see all the people who get the joke (or at least pretend to) for every single character, then turn right around and moan and gripe about Reaper.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I'd previously thought Zarya's Power Overwhelming achievement might be mathematically impossible but I just hadn't run into a team that was dumb enough to keep feeding the bubbles I guess. The Zenyatta orb one is pretty crazy hard to do. I haven't been able to get a 1500 transcendence heal either because people are getting smarter and actually moving away from big ults instead of standing around wondering what that sound way and why it's getting louder. I sometimes hope that the enemy team is coordinated enough to drop a Zarya ult into a hanzo one, but have only seen it once and I wasn't on Zenyatta.
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May 31, 2016 18:16
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Broken Cog posted:it's merry band of attractive Mary Sues bound together with the thinnest of plot. Mods please change thread title to this, thanks in advance. Broken Cog posted:TF2 has probably the least serious characters in any shooter game released to date, and they are still way more interesting than any of the Overwatch cast. And that is with none of the TF2 characters even having names. Oh my god guys, TF2 is just so much better in characterization now after so many years than Overwatch is at release. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll go play this game with gamer girls, shy science girls, Femme Fatale snipers, short-haired strong girls, sniper ninja boys, cyborg ninja sword boys, ragged Cowboys, veteran soldiers, and Mad Max extras while I promptly uninstall a game full of white dudes and a token black.
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Brannock posted:Some people are just so utterly invested in the idea that Blizzard's writing sucks that they parrot it everytime the subject comes up no matter how applicable or accurate it is. Quoting this for when they do the corruption arc
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Dr Cheeto posted:Quoting this for when they do the corruption arc It already happened You're missing the point, anyway. Every single time some piece of lore or a comic comes out or something there's always someone that pops up to go "  Blizzard Writing!!" without actually evaluating it. It's stupid and brainless
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Pakled posted:When TF2 came out, it had no plot and practically no character development. I think at release, all they had was Meet the Heavy, and Overwatch has already exceeded the amount of characterization we saw in that. Maybe nine years from now, Overwatch characters will be more fleshed out, too. Does it have plot and character development now? I always thought the whole incredibly generic broad-stereotype characters was a big part of the charm in a "that's the joke" kind of way. Anything more than Russian guy with a big gun who loves sandwiches kind of spoils that.
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I liked TF2 a lot but I dunno why people are praising the characters so much I haven't played it in years, did I miss something other than the 'Meet the _____' videos
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LuiCypher posted:Mods please change thread title to this, thanks in advance. lol
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Broken Cog posted:Because Battleborn characters weren't designed to be as blandly attractive and appeal to as many sexual fantasies as possible. Who's your favourite? The gamer girl? The shy Science girl? The Femme Fatale sniper? The short-haired strong girl? What about the sniper ninja man? Or his brother, cyborg ninja sword man. The ragged Cowboy or Veteran soldier? etc etc etc. Why do you hate fun?
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Help Im Alive posted:I liked TF2 a lot but I dunno why people are praising the characters so much there were some ARGs i think?
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Help Im Alive posted:I liked TF2 a lot but I dunno why people are praising the characters so much You learn in Meet the Spy that he's been sleeping with the Scout's mom.
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May 31, 2016 18:19
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Having the company that did the writing behind borderlands and claptrap design a game that lives and dies by it's 30 original characters is like having the Braid nerd make a Platinum game. And then releasing it around the same time as Metal Gear Rising.
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May 31, 2016 18:19
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Battleborn characters are dumb, though I like the design on the witch girl with the ghost arms. TF2 is dead forever and I'm glad. Long live Overwatch. Long live Junkrat
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May 31, 2016 18:19
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I wonder if they are going to balance this game to pro-play or to pub play. I feel like both have drawbacks.
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May 31, 2016 18:20
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A friend of a friend of mine is a producer on Battleborn and they've apparently had 50% of their marketing budget and a bunch of their staff pulled since some point just before Overwatch launch. I always feel bad talking about how much fun I have with Overwatch around her.
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May 31, 2016 18:21
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Broken Cog posted:Because Battleborn characters weren't designed to be as blandly attractive and appeal to as many sexual fantasies as possible. Who's your favourite? The gamer girl? The shy Science girl? The Femme Fatale sniper? The short-haired strong girl? What about the sniper ninja man? Or his brother, cyborg ninja sword man. The ragged Cowboy or Veteran soldier? etc etc etc. An issue I've been voicing
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May 31, 2016 18:22
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What this game needs is cutscenes. (There's no Battleborn porn because their character designs loving suck and people need a human skeleton to work with, not stick bugs.)
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May 31, 2016 18:24
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Macaluso posted:Battleborn characters are dumb, though I like the design on the witch girl with the ghost arms. TF2 is dead forever and I'm glad. Long live Overwatch. Long live Junkrat  except i don't know a thing about battleborn other than the infamous "this is obviously way too much visual noise" pic
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Verranicus posted:A friend of a friend of mine is a producer on Battleborn and they've apparently had 50% of their marketing budget and a bunch of their staff pulled since some point just before Overwatch launch. I always feel bad talking about how much fun I have with Overwatch around her. Tell her that at least there isn't as much porn of her game than Overwatch.
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Broken Cog posted:Because Battleborn characters weren't designed to be as blandly attractive and appeal to as many sexual fantasies as possible. Who's your favourite? The gamer girl? The shy Science girl? The Femme Fatale sniper? The short-haired strong girl? What about the sniper ninja man? Or his brother, cyborg ninja sword man. The ragged Cowboy or Veteran soldier? etc etc etc. Source your quotes e: nice meltdown (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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You guys are gonna look like idiots when he was right all along. A broken cog is right twice a day.
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Brannock posted:Similarly, it's been amusing to see all the people who get the joke (or at least pretend to) for every single character, then turn right around and moan and gripe about Reaper. reaper's entire existence is also justified by Tracer intoning "DEATH COMES" when she murders him
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May 31, 2016 18:26
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Verranicus posted:Why do you hate fun? I still like to play the game? I just feel it's such a waste with the characterization of the cast when Blizzard obviously has a ton of extremely competent game, sound and art designers. Not to mention I'm impressed with how smooth the game runs, and how few connection issues I've run into (even though the no kick for latency and 20-tick rate issues are a bit laughable), so their software and networking team deserves some recognition as well. Your Computer posted:Source your quotes
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Guys if the characters aren't "whacky zany funny, I-don't-understand-body-proportion, nonsense designed" they're clearly bland and part of the over-sexualized patriarchy.
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Help Im Alive posted:I liked TF2 a lot but I dunno why people are praising the characters so much Yes, all of the comics and the Expiration Date short. I'd like to think that Blizzard will start doing things like this once they start rolling out more updates. Give new maps a backstory of why they're fighting there, for example. But I don't know much about Blizzard's approach to word building. Broken Cog posted:Because Battleborn characters weren't designed to be as blandly attractive and appeal to as many sexual fantasies as possible. Who's your favourite? The gamer girl? The shy Science girl? The Femme Fatale sniper? The short-haired strong girl? What about the sniper ninja man? Or his brother, cyborg ninja sword man. The ragged Cowboy or Veteran soldier? etc etc etc.  Roadhog is also a fetish character.
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