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Tokyo Sex Whale posted:Crossbows are swell and I use them all the time and now I am going to go do dual crossbow fast rolling and will report back. you don't have dual wield, or power-stance moves, for 2 crossbows, so having 2 of them doesn't give you any tangible benefit? does firing the left hand interrupt the reload animation for the right hand, and then magically the right hand is now reloaded, and you can just alternate back and forth gatling-gun style? that's the only possible way I could see that approaching usefulness.
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homeless poster posted:you don't have dual wield, or power-stance moves, for 2 crossbows, so having 2 of them doesn't give you any tangible benefit? does firing the left hand interrupt the reload animation for the right hand, and then magically the right hand is now reloaded, and you can just alternate back and forth gatling-gun style? that's the only possible way I could see that approaching usefulness. I made a light crossbow and an arbalest +9 because sometimes I need to make weight and sometimes I need more stopping power so I have 2 crossbows.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:14
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1 for 2 but the second guy flasked 3 times and I didn't.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:16
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My greatest PvP moments have been me VS host/invader, and none of us flasked. I'm not a honournerd who wants bowing before engaging but that has been the greatest ever. DLC better bring variable geometry arenas.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:18
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A dual crossbow invasion build probably wouldn't kill anything but it sure would be annoying as hell. Until they pop a giant's seed and then you just die.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:25
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Blech. Which is the worst bonfire to boss run? Consumed King seems like the worst because you've got to avoid those little wallhangers, take a lift, stab a dude that's in the way then take out the two knights so you can summon help.
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Jun 1, 2016 01:27
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3-1-1 with dual crossbows and the one loss was a guy who got angry and flasked so I think all of you are talking jive.
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SynthOrange posted:Blech. Which is the worst bonfire to boss run? Consumed King seems like the worst because you've got to avoid those little wallhangers, take a lift, stab a dude that's in the way then take out the two knights so you can summon help. Sometimes a shortcut is not actually a shortcut and the original route is preferable. The Champ is probably the worst, just in terms of the damage you can take if you gently caress up a little bit, then Vordt, and then maybe Consumed King or the Deacons. The boss runs are very short and easy in this compared to DS1/2.
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Jun 1, 2016 02:00
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Deacons is probably the worst but that would require dying to the Deacons. For actually hard bosses its probably Dragonslayer Armour just because the elevator is so painfully slow for no loving reason.
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Jun 1, 2016 02:02
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Internet Kraken posted:Deacons is probably the worst but that would require dying to the Deacons. Deacons is a quick run from Rosaria's: cross the raised platform, run to elevator
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Jun 1, 2016 02:09
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yea deacons doesn't have that bad a runbackDomattee posted:Sometimes a shortcut is not actually a shortcut and the original route is preferable. the consumed king shortcut is absolutely the preferred route because of the toxin, the giant shadow snake things, and the inaccessible mage on a roof shooting you. the shortcut is really easy to get back from
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Kobogartimer posted:Demon's Souls is art. Dark Souls 1 is magical but tragically unfinished. Dark Souls 2 is a good game, and impressive mechanically, but fails to capture what made DS1. Bloodborne is a true and complete masterpiece. DS3 also fails to capture the magic of DS1, but instead creates some of its own. Mechanically baffling. Serviceable and a Good Game. Bloodborne had the tragic fault of not having a good invasion system. Basically killed most of the replay value it might have had for me and I was back at DkS2 in like a month.
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LegoPirateNinja posted:Deacons is a quick run from Rosaria's: cross the raised platform, run to elevator Hell, you can get clever, pull the lever from Rosaria's side, and jump onto the bridge as it's lowering to avoid having to take the elevator.
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Jun 1, 2016 02:15
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Has anyone actually died from Deacons aside from the very first time maybe?
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sector_corrector posted:Is it just me, or the Kukuri a much better option than almost any bow? Not having to switch off your main, faster fire speed, pretty solid damage (on a quality build), and bleed proc. Those ninja skeletons in the catacombs (how are you so fast, you don't have any loving muscles) certainly use them effectively.
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argondamn posted:Bloodborne had the tragic fault of not having a good invasion system. Basically killed most of the replay value it might have had for me and I was back at DkS2 in like a month. I'd reinstall BB if invasions were more common outside of eternally ringing areas  but when invasions were running things were perfect, damnit
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SynthOrange posted:Has anyone actually died from Deacons aside from the very first time maybe? My deacons runs: 1st time I was summoned as a sunbro and we beat them easily 2nd time I was the host, summoned Anri and Harold and they were utterly useless - they didn't attack the red enemy, just whoever was nearby. Harold and Anri both died, and I got myself killed by pressing the wrong button (I meant to heal, and hosed up) just before a heat-seeking dark spell hit me from the other side of the room. 3rd time I got a single phantom and equipped myself with a greatsword and we stomped 'em.
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sector_corrector posted:Is it just me, or the Kukuri a much better option than almost any bow? Not having to switch off your main, faster fire speed, pretty solid damage (on a quality build), and bleed proc. It's not useful against agile foes (read: anything that can move to the side even slightly), and you can't prime a shot like you can with a bow. It works more like a crossbow than a regular bow in the sense that there's an unavoidable windup before your shot fires. Still a solid choice though.
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I forgot the Rosaria Fire and the Dragonslayer Armor. Probably Champ - Vordt - Armor for me then.Manatee Cannon posted:yea deacons doesn't have that bad a runback If you're fighting things you don't absolutely have to it's not a boss run. The shortcut is a little faster but you're way more likely to take damage in the process. The original route is very safe if you remember to send the elevator back up.
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The zone between Anor Londo and Pontiff is obnoxious. I was in a pickle when I couldn't beat those drat Aldrich dogs so I used an ember to get more health. They were killing me in 2 hits even with all my health. Proceed to get invaded constantly. Finally beat the dogs and join Aldrich's covenants so I WON'T get invaded. Couldn't even make it up the ladder before going into an invasion and it spawned me back at the bottom of the ladder. Ended up dying to two invaders and just ran through unembered to Anor Londo. I guess it could be worse. At least it's not the Belltower I guess?
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it's a lot faster and you only get into a fight in the shortcut if you don't send the elevator back up. the normal route is worse on about every level. I can't even think of a single regular route that is quicker or easier than the shortcuts you open up
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Jun 1, 2016 02:34
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SynthOrange posted:Has anyone actually died from Deacons aside from the very first time maybe? My first playthrough of this game sure was a helluva thing.  I don't think I've died on any playthrough since then.
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SynthOrange posted:Has anyone actually died from Deacons aside from the very first time maybe? When I am rushing through the game and don't yet have a good weapon or the stats it becomes kinda difficult. Same with Crystal Sage.
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Jun 1, 2016 02:40
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I always do max summons for the deacons because the extra health from the stupid npcs lets you clown around a bit more in that fight. Swinging around Morne's Hammer and watching them fly everywhere and then Wrath of the Godsing them all apart as they rise in the second phase is pure bliss.
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SynthOrange posted:Has anyone actually died from Deacons aside from the very first time maybe? I died twice to deacons my first playthrough. first time to that weird charge spell in the final form without realizing what it was, 2nd time by trying to be clever and hiding behind the statue in the middle to avoid it (this doesnt work)
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Jun 1, 2016 02:52
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Why is it that I can only summon one person any more (or NPC)? All the others disappear when I summon
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Crack those knuckles.
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I feel like Deacons could actually be a really good fight, but was tuned to be too easy. On NG++ with a weapon/setup that isn't good for them it's fun and challenging and you actually see and think about some of their abilities.
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Harvey Wallbanger posted:My pure pyro, no weapons run is getting viciously wrecked by Oceiros, of all things...Pontiff only took me like 6 tries, Dancer probably 7, I'm at like 20 and counting on ol dragon-dad. It's basically because I rushed 40att/30int/30fth and consequently have no health so literally all his moves 1-shot me. It's because Oceiros is likes to charge if you have any distance between you, and his charges do a fuckton and are hard to avoid. If you're not using a shield, a good option would be to close in and try to stay under him. Casters usually try to keep their distance and that gets punished in this fight. Throw a handful of Great Chaos Fireballs when opportunity arises and he's toast.
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I summoned Hawkwood because I couldnt find any player summon signs and let him draw all of Consumed's attention while I fireballed him. I'm almost done with my pyro run and overall it's like the difficulty's inverted from my melee fighter. Fights that pasted my bleed build I breezed past with fireballs, and fights that were easy turned out to be super hard. Except the Deacons, Wolnir and Dancer, both fights were easy/easy/hard respectively. Some fights were really tough because I didnt have the armor or health to take the hits and died in one shot. Still have to face the cripple twins though. Synthbuttrange fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Internet Kraken posted:For actually hard bosses its probably Dragonslayer Armour just because the elevator is so painfully slow for no loving reason. Forget about that one, use the Dragon Barracks bonfire instead (the one before the bridge with the dragons) because if you've killed the dragons and opened the main gate it's a short and easy runback and all you have to do is dodge one sword knight.
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MrLonghair posted:My greatest PvP moments have been me VS host/invader, and none of us flasked. I'm not a honournerd who wants bowing before engaging but that has been the greatest ever. DLC better bring variable geometry arenas. Yesssss!!! Bring back the blood covenant arena battles from dark souls 2! I loved never being able to rank up as I progressed once in the covenant to get instantly sent back down again as I lose a single match!
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Can someone clarify the Dancer of Boreal Valley's grab attack to me? Sometimes when sometimes the grab happens and she then immediately slams the character to the ground in a fiery burst. Other times it seems like she's performing a crushing attack or something but then no damage happens and my character just falls out of it and is fine? What is happening here? Can it be mashed out of or if you have high enough stamina do you outlast the attack or something?
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Jun 1, 2016 04:44
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I have never seen that second thing.
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turtlecrunch posted:My first playthrough of this game sure was a helluva thing. Okay, yeah, I can see why the deacons would be a threat. I always play a melee in DS, and I just happened to rock a halberd so this took alot less time for me. Street sweepin' with the one-hand and two hand R2s
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SynthOrange posted:I have never seen that second thing. I'm trying to make it happen a third time, if I do I'll upload video.
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Uuuuugh if I killed you once it means I dont want you to summon me, dead lady.
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Neo Rasa posted:Can someone clarify the Dancer of Boreal Valley's grab attack to me? Sometimes when sometimes the grab happens and she then immediately slams the character to the ground in a fiery burst. Other times it seems like she's performing a crushing attack or something but then no damage happens and my character just falls out of it and is fine? What is happening here? Can it be mashed out of or if you have high enough stamina do you outlast the attack or something? I think you were spamming your straight sword so hard the dancer forgot that you staggered her. Basically every one of her grabs hits you for a huge amount of damage but you happened to hit her at the right time and get no damage from her grab. Happened to me during the nameless king as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEdv4yRXno4
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MarshyMcFly posted:I think you were spamming your straight sword so hard the dancer forgot that you staggered her. Basically every one of her grabs hits you for a huge amount of damage but you happened to hit her at the right time and get no damage from her grab. Happened to me during the nameless king as well: This is exactly what happened. :O "Hurray for attacking!"
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